Turkey Shoots Down Jet Near Syria Border

[Pesty]

[deadslow]

If we drop hundreds of tons of bombs on people, why is it wrong for them to try to blow us up?

[Cobnapint]

I've no issue with the RAF blowing the limbs off members of ISIS and letting them bleed to death in a pile of dusty ME breeze blocks. That's a given.

What concerns me is - the FSA and ISIS are fighting together aren't they, against Assad? If so, no matter how good your optics are at 10,000ft, how do we discern an AK47-toting Toyota pick-up driving ISIS snackbar shouting raghead, from an AK47-toting Toyota pick-up driving FSA snackbar shouting raghead?

If we start killing the FSA in large numbers, aren't we just going to create another neck-smiting foe that we could well do without? And that's before you consider all the innocent civilians that are bound to end up at the wrong end of a Paveway IV.

[karona]

https://www.facebook.com/plantaopolicialpiaui/vide...

Boots on the ground? The caption's (roughly) "The Russians on their way to sort out ISIS"

[CaptainSlow]

IroningMan said:

We should make clear to our 'friends' among the, er, 'conventional' Syrian revolutionaries that they need to commit to an immediate ceasefire and a negotiated future - or we will no longer consider them as friends and lump them in with Daesh as targets.

Quite. I don't understand why the Russian backed Government and US backed rebels haven't already agreed a ceasefire and a freezing of the current territorial lines.

[Pesty]

karona said:

https://www.facebook.com/plantaopolicialpiaui/vide...

Boots on the ground? The caption's (roughly) "The Russians on their way to sort out ISIS"

Dayam is that the world longest train or kick ass.

Let's leave it to Russia and China. Let them sort it out and take the back lash. We don't need to drop any bombs.

[uk_vette]

Otter Smacker said:

Utterly brilliant, love some of the quotes here on PH.

vette

[uk_vette]

Pesty said:

karona said:

https://www.facebook.com/plantaopolicialpiaui/vide...

Boots on the ground? The caption's (roughly) "The Russians on their way to sort out ISIS"

Dayam is that the world longest train or kick ass.

Let's leave it to Russia and China. Let them sort it out and take the back lash. We don't need to drop any bombs.

I don't think you will see China get involved.
Why should they?

[irocfan]

uk_vette said:

I don't think you will see China get involved.
Why should they?

pride - several Chinese citizens have been murdered too

[irocfan]

[uk_vette]

irocfan said:

uk_vette said:

I don't think you will see China get involved.
Why should they?

pride - several Chinese citizens have been murdered too

You can be sure China will not get involved.
They have no real benefit.

[FourWheelDrift]

uk_vette said:

irocfan said:

uk_vette said:

I don't think you will see China get involved.
Why should they?

pride - several Chinese citizens have been murdered too

You can be sure China will not get involved.
They have no real benefit.

This will get their attention - http://www.cnbc.com/2015/11/25/islamic-state-riles...

[Pesty]

uk_vette said:

irocfan said:

uk_vette said:

I don't think you will see China get involved.
Why should they?

pride - several Chinese citizens have been murdered too

You can be sure China will not get involved.
They have no real benefit.

Don't be so sure they have their own issues with Muslim terrorists who happen to be involved in Syria too.


Some interesting photos here of Turkistan child soldiers. The people Turkey are supporting who by the way exectute and toured any prisoners.

Warning after you scroll past the children being indoctrinated into Islam like robots there are a few gory pictures.




http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d97_1448670254


Moderates remember being armed by the U.S.

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Edited by Pesty on Saturday 28th November 12:04

[AreOut]

and financed

https://www.rt.com/usa/323744-obama-ndaa-ukraine-s...

[dandarez]

danllama said:

Even if they DIDN'T believe it to be Russian (which i don't believe for a second), what would they expect it to be??

Eeeeezee jet?



http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/622702/easyJet...

htf can 'security' be that lapse that someone can scrawl wording on a plane's jet engines at an airport?

[Zod]

drivetrain said:

Like him or loathe him, Putin's on a roll at the moment and his domestic popularity (although I have nothing to back this up with AreOut) must be way up there so anyone fancying facing up to him politically or militarily will have a force to be reckoned with I feel.

Sounds as if he should hold a free election and allow properly funded campaigns by opposition candidates without their being arrested coincidentally for corruption or shot.

But he won't do that.

[Gandahar]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34954575

I wonder if Turkey now regrets it.

Not exactly the worlds most lovely government either...

[discusdave]

a weapons supply from turkey apparently


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=df9_1448729137

[PRTVR]

Gandahar said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34954575

I wonder if Turkey now regrets it.

Not exactly the worlds most lovely government either...

Probably, the thing is the pilot did not shoot down the plane, nor his commanding officer, the order came from the top, any regrets are false.

[Cobnapint]

So now we have a situation where a NATO member has attacked Russia, and Russia is attacking a NATO member's convoys.

Unless somebody grabs Erdogan by his mouse's minge tache and tells him to stop supporting the group that blew one of Putin's airliners up, we could all find ourselves in a very difficult situation.