Net migration to UK - new record high

[jonah35]

In northern towns during the day itsvrare to hear an english voice.

In oxfordshire and so on people dont realise what is ahappening but one day they will. Not saying this is a bad thng or not but whatever number the government think is here i think you can multiply it by 10.

How do they know about the boats at night?
The people in the back of lorries?
False passport users etc etc etc

[Digga]

The thing is, the great and good, the luvvies and champagne lefties, the £300 quid welly brigade on the right, none of them really ever see or feel the consequences of much that is going wrong with the country and immigration is but one example. Witness also the creaking infrastructure, health and education system; all issues exacerbated by immigration, as much as it is perhaps helped by the skills immigrants bring.

[JagLover]

Digga said:

The thing is, the great and good, the luvvies and champagne lefties, the £300 quid welly brigade on the right, none of them really ever see or feel the consequences of much that is going wrong with the country and immigration is but one example. Witness also the creaking infrastructure, health and education system; all issues exacerbated by immigration, as much as it is perhaps helped by the skills immigrants bring.

Spot on

None are told to wait a week for a GPs appointment, or that their child cannot get into to any of the schools they want, or watch their incomes stagnate or fall in real terms.

Part of the growing wealth divide is a very real process of globalisation, another large part is policies adopted since 1997.

[Esseesse]

Sam All said:

voyds9 said:

Yes but but 1/2 of those are from outside Europe, so leaving the EU won't change that figure


Bluster, bluff, believe or the world will come to an end.

Could the UK survive zero immigration , from anywhere, for 5 years?

Would it in fact prove a much needed relief for housing. Schools, GPs, hospitals

Yes it could, however the GDP numbers could get shaky. Which sadly is what far too many people solely base their opinion of is the UK doing ok on.

[Sam All]

Esseesse said:

Sam All said:

voyds9 said:

Yes but but 1/2 of those are from outside Europe, so leaving the EU won't change that figure


Bluster, bluff, believe or the world will come to an end.

Could the UK survive zero immigration , from anywhere, for 5 years?

Would it in fact prove a much needed relief for housing. Schools, GPs, hospitals

Yes it could, however the GDP numbers could get shaky. Which sadly is what far too many people solely base their opinion of is the UK doing ok on.

Turnover is vanity, profit is sanity - Jaglover's comment at 07:37.

[Digga]

Sam All said:

Esseesse said:

Sam All said:

voyds9 said:

Yes but but 1/2 of those are from outside Europe, so leaving the EU won't change that figure


Bluster, bluff, believe or the world will come to an end.

Could the UK survive zero immigration , from anywhere, for 5 years?

Would it in fact prove a much needed relief for housing. Schools, GPs, hospitals

Yes it could, however the GDP numbers could get shaky. Which sadly is what far too many people solely base their opinion of is the UK doing ok on.

Turnover is vanity, profit is sanity - Jaglover's comment at 07:37.

And quality of life for the masses is... irrelevant to the anti-fragile, neo-keynsian elite who just need continual GDP growth to fuel their tax-and-spend Ponzi scheme.

[BlackLabel]

Net immigration to UK rises to record level of 335,000 in year to June, ONS says

[Guybrush]

BlackLabel said:

Net immigration to UK rises to record level of 335,000 in year to June, ONS says

It would seem the country which wants to leave the EU is the one to come to.

[Pan Pan Pan]

Guybrush said:

BlackLabel said:

Cameron's 'tens of thousands' pledge is going well.

Net migration to UK rises to 333,000 - second highest on record

Pressure on housing, NHS, roads. What would a Remainian have to say I wonder.

This is what is so difficult to understand, We are being informed almost daily about problems for a grossly over stretched NHS, A massive housing shortage, lack of road space, and the damage done by congested roads, difficulty in getting school places for ones children, and yet adding hundreds of thousands of extra people every year to these already over stretched elements is ignored, or even suggested by remainers, that even pointing out something that is highly likely to be making the situation worse is somehow racist.
Fill a lifeboat intended for, and provisioned to hold 80 people, with 80 people and there is a fair chance those 80 people will have a chance of surviving. Fill it with 120 people, and it may still survive, albeit with everyone in it not able to cope with the conditions very well, and even a slight problem could prove fatal for all in it.
Fill it with 180 people, and all it will do is sink, and kill `everyone' who relied on it. But doing this, is what some seem to think is entirely acceptable? The UK is now the most densely populated country in the EU, having just overtaken Holland for that dubious title. why do people think that over crowding the UK is a good idea?

[RAFsmoggy]

Farage was pilloried when he said the Romanians would be coming here in droves...50k+ Romanians ..oor old Nigel, still his buddy is picking up his tab for a while.

[Deptford Draylons]

Over on the U-Turn thread the idea that EU immigration isn't uncontrolled is being called a fallacy. Interesting.

Edited by Deptford Draylons on Thursday 1st December 11:59

[hyphen]

Pan Pan Pan said:

This is what is so difficult to understand, We are being informed almost daily about problems for a grossly over stretched NHS, A massive housing shortage, lack of road space, and the damage done by congested roads, difficulty in getting school places for ones children, and yet adding hundreds of thousands of extra people every year to these already over stretched elements is ignored, or even suggested by remainers, that even pointing out something that is highly likely to be making the situation worse is somehow racist.
Fill a lifeboat intended for, and provisioned to hold 80 people, with 80 people and there is a fair chance those 80 people will have a chance of surviving. Fill it with 120 people, and it may still survive, albeit with everyone in it not able to cope with the conditions very well, and even a slight problem could prove fatal for all in it.
Fill it with 180 people, and all it will do is sink, and kill `everyone' who relied on it. But doing this, is what some seem to think is entirely acceptable? The UK is now the most densely populated country in the EU, having just overtaken Holland for that dubious title. why do people think that over crowding the UK is a good idea?

The liberals utopian argument is that its not the number of people, its the lack of investment to cope with those people.
"Why aren't we building more schools, why aren't we training more teachers, why aren't we encouraging more cycling and working from home, why aren't we...".

[B'stard Child]

Deptford Draylons said:

Over on the U-Turn thread the idea that EU immigration isn't uncontrolled is being called a fallacy. Interesting.

Edited by Deptford Draylons on Thursday 1st December 11:59

Indeed - this thread possibly has gone below their radar..... expect a visit soon

I'm going back over the other side to talk about my reason to leave the EU number 273 - Eurovision

Apparently it's wearing thin with some.... Probablty about as thin as our chances of ever winning, probably as thin as the voting practices....

[Deptford Draylons]

650k people arrived, 176K had a job and 127K are looking for work.

[B'stard Child]

Deptford Draylons said:

650k people arrived, 176K had a job and 127K are looking for work.

What about the 347K??? They are just here for sts and giggles??

[alfie2244]

RAFsmoggy said:

Farage was pilloried when he said the Romanians would be coming here in droves...50k+ Romanians ..oor old Nigel, still his buddy is picking up his tab for a while.

As Brillo just pointed out on DP

[TEKNOPUG]

B'stard Child said:

Deptford Draylons said:

650k people arrived, 176K had a job and 127K are looking for work.

What about the 347K??? They are just here for sts and giggles??

Financially self-sufficient

[alfie2244]

B'stard Child said:

Deptford Draylons said:

650k people arrived, 176K had a job and 127K are looking for work.

What about the 347K??? They are just here for sts and giggles??

Don't know about all of them but I think I heard about 160k on "proper" degree courses. Still leaves about 180K though.

[B'stard Child]

TEKNOPUG said:

B'stard Child said:

Deptford Draylons said:

650k people arrived, 176K had a job and 127K are looking for work.

What about the 347K??? They are just here for sts and giggles??

Financially self-sufficient

I don't know many financially self sufficient students but I appreciate that it's a possibility

For the non students - The UK has great weather and a perfect place to retire

[tankplanker]

alfie2244 said:

Don't know about all of them but I think I heard about 160k on "proper" degree courses. Still leaves about 180K though.

Children of the adults that have immigrated?