Amputee loses Motability car

[RYH64E]

Butter Face said:

stuartmmcfc said:

0000 said:

TVR1 said:

10% of new cars registered in th UK.

Has no one been able to challenge this? Seems a staggering amount.

If this is true, then is it such a bad thing?
I imagine the number of people earning a living from this is huge.

Of course, from the salesmen selling the cars, service departments doing routine maintanence, Kwik Fit employees fitting tyres, Windscreen fitters, bodyshops etc etc etc.

It's a lot of cars, and a lot of knock-on money.

So on that basis, if we gave everyone in the country a free car it would be even better for the economy?

[0000]

stuartmmcfc said:

If this is true, then is it such a bad thing?
I imagine the number of people earning a living from this is huge.

I've no doubt it does support a lot of jobs given the hundreds of millions spent on it, but of all the ways you might choose to stimulate the economy I'm not sure anyone would choose this method.

If 10% of people need this scheme, fair enough, but if an amputee isn't considered suitable I do wonder how the number gets that high.

[Butter Face]

RYH64E said:

Butter Face said:

stuartmmcfc said:

0000 said:

TVR1 said:

10% of new cars registered in th UK.

Has no one been able to challenge this? Seems a staggering amount.

If this is true, then is it such a bad thing?
I imagine the number of people earning a living from this is huge.

Of course, from the salesmen selling the cars, service departments doing routine maintanence, Kwik Fit employees fitting tyres, Windscreen fitters, bodyshops etc etc etc.

It's a lot of cars, and a lot of knock-on money.

So on that basis, if we gave everyone in the country a free car it would be even better for the economy?

You're really stuck on this 'free car' thing aren't you?

It's ok that you don't understand.

[Butter Face]

0000 said:

I've no doubt it does support a lot of jobs given the hundreds of millions spent on it, but of all the ways you might choose to stimulate the economy I'm not sure anyone would choose this method.

If 10% of people need this scheme, fair enough, but if an amputee isn't considered suitable I do wonder how the number gets that high.

That's not what has been discussed, it's 10% of new cars registered in the UK, not 10% of the population....

[0000]

Assuming that rate is constant and motability cars don't have significantly different lifetimes (maybe they do for all I know), I'm not sure that makes much difference?

[Butter Face]

0000 said:

Assuming that rate is constant and motability cars don't have significantly different lifetimes (maybe they do for all I know), I'm not sure that makes much difference?

I would say it makes a lot of difference. A vast majority of the public don't buy new cars, most don't buy every 3 years, also a very large % of new cars registered are company/fleet anyway.

10% of new cars registered in the UK != 10% of the UK public.

[KarlMac]

eldar said:

Surely a one legged person could drive an auto? Does the state have to provide it?

I worked with someone who was missing a leg from birth, he basically just bought Autos. I'must not even sure if he had a blue badge.

If it's a way to get fewer Vauxhauls on the road I'm strongly in support of scrapping motobility

[Butter Face]

KarlMac said:

eldar said:

Surely a one legged person could drive an auto? Does the state have to provide it?

I worked with someone who was missing a leg from birth, he basically just bought Autos. I'must not even sure if he had a blue badge.

If it's a way to get fewer Vauxhauls on the road I'm strongly in support of scrapping motobility

Amazingly there are a lot of people who are disabled that don't claim it/don't have a blue badge/don't have a motability car.

There are also people who are worth millons who claim it.

It's not means tested, they can choose to apply for it if they please and if they get awarded they can have it. That's the country we live in.

Last numbers for people claiming DLA were 3.2m. So less than 5% of the UK population. 1.2m claim Higher rate or Mobility component which can be used towards a car.

So around 1.8% of the population can get a 'free car' to use the terminolgy used by the other poster, and I assure you, from my dealings with lots of them over the last 7 years, most of them would happily swap their 'free car' to get their health back..

[0000]

Butter Face said:

0000 said:

Assuming that rate is constant and motability cars don't have significantly different lifetimes (maybe they do for all I know), I'm not sure that makes much difference?

I would say it makes a lot of difference. A vast majority of the public don't buy new cars, most don't buy every 3 years, also a very large % of new cars registered are company/fleet anyway.

10% of new cars registered in the UK != 10% of the UK public.

So what happens to all those relatively new motability cars at three years? If a higher proportion of motability car owners are buying new than the general public, doesn't that accrue a proportionately larger pool of second hand cars?

[Sticks.]

0000 said:

So what happens to all those relatively new motability cars at three years? If a higher proportion of motability car owners are buying new than the general public, doesn't that accrue a proportionately larger pool of second hand cars?

http://www.motability.co.uk/about-us/faqs/what-happens-to-my-car-after-i-hand-it-back

What happens to my car after I hand it back?

Motability Operations sell all cars that are received back at the end of contract, this is done through the combination of an online system with a network of dealers, and through auction houses. If you are interested in an ex-Motability car, you should contact your local dealers or auction houses to see if any are available. Although many different auction houses are used, British Car Auctions are the most popular and have details of ex-Motability car auctions on their website.

http://www.british-car-auctions.co.uk/buy/Useful-i...

[Richyboy]

Wouldn't she have a really expensive prosthetic and therefore a car not a necessity?

You'd get crucified in the press for suggesting this system is abused lol.

[zedstar]

Motbility is an excellent idea and i'm a 100% supporter of it. The problem, as mentioned, is the people that abuse it. The second problem is people like me who have come across such people, yet I moan about them but do nothing.

[alfie2244]

zedstar said:

Motbility is an excellent idea and i'm a 100% supporter of it. The problem, as mentioned, is the people that abuse it. The second problem is people like me who have come across such people, yet I moan about them but do nothing.

I don't doubt some abuse it but as a matter of interest how do you know they have a Motability car? I can see you might if you were a relative, car dealer etc or working in a related area but how would Joe public know?

As I understand it blue badges can be held by non Motability people and not all Motability have a blue badges so unless I am missing something it can't be this.

[mph1977]

0000 said:

Has no one been able to challenge this? Seems a staggering amount.

I would suspect that ordinary retail sales make up a tiny proprtion of new registrations , especially with the rise of personal leasing / PCP over the HP / financed purchase model and the pattern of cars on business names whether owned or on business leases ...

[mph1977]

RYH64E said:

So on that basis, if we gave everyone in the country a free car it would be even better for the economy?

no one gets a 'free car' , thus deomnstrating yet another person who has little right to continue posting in this thread .

[mph1977]

0000 said:

Assuming that rate is constant and motability cars don't have significantly different lifetimes (maybe they do for all I know), I'm not sure that makes much difference?

3 year leases for unmodified and lightly modified cars, 5 year lease for heavily modified / WAV

[mph1977]

0000 said:

So what happens to all those relatively new motability cars at three years? If a higher proportion of motability car owners are buying new than the general public, doesn't that accrue a proportionately larger pool of second hand cars?

same as what happens when other lease cars are handed back ... modifications removed , remeidial work if needed done and out to retail on second hand car lots up and down the country ...

[skeggysteve]

A lot also go via https://www.mfldirect.co.uk/

[stuartmmcfc]

Surprised no ones said that they wouldn't buy an ex Motability car as they all stink of piss.

[eldar]

mph1977 said:

no one gets a 'free car' , thus deomnstrating yet another person who has little right to continue posting in this thread .

It is 'free' in that the state given them enough money to provide them with a car, and a goodly proportion of the running costs. They do choose to spend that money on a car, rather than Benson & Hedges or living costs.