Woman given card from "Overweight haters"

[okgo]

Its a cyclists build for sure 6/6 and around 80kg.



That fella shares the same vital stats as Brabusmog and doesn't look too terrible.

[pork911]

s3fella said:

And you seem rather defensive about it.
I am just dismayed that there seem to be some supposed "men" that are happy to slag off a perfectly normal woman who has been wronged by what can only be described as a weasel of a "man". By sharing his opinion of her, ie by calling her fat, you're helping this prick justify his actions.

you seem totally lost. you can object as much as you want to her being told this in this way but to cling to the notion that 'normal' fat doesn't mean fat is bizarre

[FredClogs]

pork911 said:

FredClogs said:

irocfan said:

FredClogs said:

Is this what they call fat shaming in the US? People shouldn't shame other people, it's one of the shameful things about western culture, people who shame other should take a look at eastern culture and be ashamed of themselves - That's irony.

I don't often agree with you but this is spot on

They shouldn't damn with faint praise either...

eastern culture? yep strong irony in that statement

You know, Oriental culture, but I don't think you can say oriental these days with being shamed.

[pork911]

FredClogs said:

pork911 said:

FredClogs said:

irocfan said:

FredClogs said:

Is this what they call fat shaming in the US? People shouldn't shame other people, it's one of the shameful things about western culture, people who shame other should take a look at eastern culture and be ashamed of themselves - That's irony.

I don't often agree with you but this is spot on

They shouldn't damn with faint praise either...

eastern culture? yep strong irony in that statement

You know, Oriental culture, but I don't think you can say oriental these days with being shamed.

where there is less or more shame?????

[JagLover]

pork911 said:

you seem totally lost. you can object as much as you want to her being told this in this way but to cling to the notion that 'normal' fat doesn't mean fat is bizarre

Yep

We are talking objective facts here not some sort of emotional "truth".

[chris watton]

FredClogs said:

Is this what they call fat shaming in the US? People shouldn't shame other people, it's one of the shameful things about western culture, people who shame other should take a look at eastern culture and be ashamed of themselves - That's irony.

I must say, that's quite rich coming from you, someone who spammed my thread about losing weight and starting weight training. What did you say when I proved you wrong, I was having mid-life crisis?

Yeah, people shouldn't shame other people..

[bitchstewie]

pork911 said:

bhstewie said:

But equally fair play to her for having the courage to stand up and say something rather than being an anonymous ahole handing out a card and then legging it, or being an anonymous coward on the internet picking holes in people.

huh? even if we believe her story and that it wasn't aimed at eliciting some tea and sympathy (and maybe some cake nom nom nom) 'courage' to post on facebook and speak to the daily mail? to claim not to be fat? to say it doesn't matter anyway?

I'm not sure what point you're trying make?

[pork911]

bhstewie said:

pork911 said:

bhstewie said:

But equally fair play to her for having the courage to stand up and say something rather than being an anonymous ahole handing out a card and then legging it, or being an anonymous coward on the internet picking holes in people.

huh? even if we believe her story and that it wasn't aimed at eliciting some tea and sympathy (and maybe some cake nom nom nom) 'courage' to post on facebook and speak to the daily mail? to claim not to be fat? to say it doesn't matter anyway?

I'm not sure what point you're trying make?

where's the courage?

[TurboHatchback]

okgo said:

Its a cyclists build for sure 6/6 and around 80kg.



That fella shares the same vital stats as Brabusmog and doesn't look too terrible.

I think he looks absolutely dreadful but there's no denying he's fit.

[FredClogs]

chris watton said:

FredClogs said:

Is this what they call fat shaming in the US? People shouldn't shame other people, it's one of the shameful things about western culture, people who shame other should take a look at eastern culture and be ashamed of themselves - That's irony.

I must say, that's quite rich coming from you, someone who spammed my thread about losing weight and starting weight training. What did you say when I proved you wrong, I was having mid-life crisis?

Yeah, people shouldn't shame other people..

Ha ha... Dear man, I do not "spam" people threads, if memory serves me right I suggested you visit a doctor to get a check up before launching into a regime of heavy lifting and strenuous exercise and that men of a certain age don't produce testosterone at the same rate as young bucks...

You fat people are sooooo sensitive ;o)

[bitchstewie]

pork911 said:

bhstewie said:

pork911 said:

bhstewie said:

But equally fair play to her for having the courage to stand up and say something rather than being an anonymous ahole handing out a card and then legging it, or being an anonymous coward on the internet picking holes in people.

huh? even if we believe her story and that it wasn't aimed at eliciting some tea and sympathy (and maybe some cake nom nom nom) 'courage' to post on facebook and speak to the daily mail? to claim not to be fat? to say it doesn't matter anyway?

I'm not sure what point you're trying make?

where's the courage?

Courage for not giving a fk about a bunch of people on the internet making "nom nom nom" comments I guess.

And no, it isn't courage in the true sense of the word, I accept that.

[FredClogs]

pork911 said:

FredClogs said:

pork911 said:

FredClogs said:

irocfan said:

FredClogs said:

Is this what they call fat shaming in the US? People shouldn't shame other people, it's one of the shameful things about western culture, people who shame other should take a look at eastern culture and be ashamed of themselves - That's irony.

I don't often agree with you but this is spot on

They shouldn't damn with faint praise either...

eastern culture? yep strong irony in that statement

You know, Oriental culture, but I don't think you can say oriental these days with being shamed.

where there is less or more shame?????

Much less as a matter of every day discourse, although granted they do use shame as a punishment quite extensively, but not as a means of developing a conversation or casual disagreement.

btw your use of 5 question marks is truly shameful.

[BrabusMog]

PugwasHDJ80 said:

BrabusMog said:

Well I just weighed myself, I'm currently 85.7kg. I would have calculated that in my head as around just over 13 stone, but it says on Google that it is just under 13 and a half stone (13.49).

If I was to look at myself in the mirror at the moment I'd say that I'm carrying a bit of excess weight. I don't do weights etc, just run, cycle, and rowing machine. If I start training again then in three weeks I'll easily be back down to around 83kg. But it's party season etc, so I'll just be doing my usual January of no booze and no takeaway to sort myself out then.

To say I'm nearly anorexic is laughable.

oops sorry brabusmog, really poor choice of words by me in my original post- I really wasn't suggesting that you were anorexic as you certainly aren't!

my text here

PugwasHDJ80 said:

Its interesting that you can be anorexic and everyone thinks you have a problem, but if you are very obese you are just lazy. You would never tell an anorexic just to eat more!

Should have read

PugwasHDJ80 said:

Its interesting that someone can be anorexic and everyone thinks they have a problem, but if you are very obese you are just lazy. You would never tell an anorexic just to eat more!

No worries, it's not like you wrote your thoughts down on a business card and then gave it to me on the tube

[sparkythecat]

Years ago, most high street chain stores used to only stock women's fashions up to size 16.
Ladies any larger than this were forced to do the walk of shame to Evans or Ann Harveys, who catered solely for the fuller figure.
The stigma attached to shopping at such outlets meant that ladies, particularly the younger ones, were more inclined to try and stay in shape.
Those days are long gone as mainstream high street fashion shops have 'adjusted' their dress sizes over the years and each one is now bigger.
There's now no shame or stigma, and a full range of fashionwear is readily accessible, to ladies who used to hide in the voluminous dresses, that were the only things available.
Does their bum look big in these new clothes? - very probably, but they don't have to care any more

[pork911]

FredClogs said:

Much less as a matter of every day discourse, although granted they do use shame as a punishment quite extensively, but not as a means of developing a conversation or casual disagreement.

btw your use of 5 question marks is truly shameful.

the shadow of shame is never absent, especially in their polite conversations (have 5.....) !!!!!

[pork911]

bhstewie said:

Courage for not giving a fk about a bunch of people on the internet making "nom nom nom" comments I guess.

And no, it isn't courage in the true sense of the word, I accept that.

oh i think she does give a big fk or we wouldn't have heard about it

[xjay1337]

p1stonhead said:

xjay1337 said:

p1stonhead said:

I agree. Is it any different to saying 'smoking that will kill you!'? There are adverts all over the place for that and none for eating yourself into an early grave.

Im a tad overweight (working on it slowly!) and I dont think there is enough stigma attached to it. I should be ashamed every second. I wish people shouted 'FATTY!' at me walkign down the street. It would kick my willpower into overdrive.

Maybe I'm just too empathatic.
Insulting people is not the way to go.
But hey, If I ever see you (at a meet or something) remind me to constantly insult you on your personal appearance.

Perhaps I phrased it wrong. I certainly wouldnt wish it on anyone and the guy was clearly a prick. But just saying I wouldnt mind it myself is all.

Possibly.
Maybe that's you, and that's fine.
But, and this is something I've came to a personal realisation in the last year or so, is that just because <I> think it's OK to say or do something, doesn't actually make it OK, and that other people do have feelings and maybe aren't quite as cut-off as I am.

[bitchstewie]

pork911 said:

bhstewie said:

Courage for not giving a fk about a bunch of people on the internet making "nom nom nom" comments I guess.

And no, it isn't courage in the true sense of the word, I accept that.

oh i think she does give a big fk or we wouldn't have heard about it

Perhaps, but what that tosser did on the train is totally unacceptable.

Being fat (and again from the photo personally I wouldn't call her fat) is unhealthy, is a drain on the NHS, and does need tackling because as a nation we're going to have a big (excuse the pun) problem on our hands in a generations time.

If you want to do something about it there has to be a more constructive way than handing out "business cards" and running off like a wimp - have the courage of your convictions rather than be a snide little st.

Edited by bhstewie on Tuesday 1st December 17:35

[FredClogs]

pork911 said:

FredClogs said:

Much less as a matter of every day discourse, although granted they do use shame as a punishment quite extensively, but not as a means of developing a conversation or casual disagreement.

btw your use of 5 question marks is truly shameful.

the shadow of shame is never absent, especially in their polite conversations (have 5.....) !!!!!

Indeed, shame and honour two side of quite a sharp cultural tool that strike at the heart of a lot of human sociological behaviour and probably quite a lot of our evolutionary biology... The thing is in the west it's largely been misappropriated or at least being invoked incorrectly. Jon Ronson wrote a right good book about it...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/So_You've_Been_Publi...

[pork911]

bhstewie said:

Perhaps, but what that tosser did on the train is totally unacceptable.

Being fat (and again from the photo personally I wouldn't call her far) is unhealthy, is a drain on the NHS, and does need tackling because as a nation we're going to have a big (excuse the pun) problem on our hands in a generations time.

If you want to do something about it there has to be a more constructive way than handing out "business cards" and running off like a wimp - have the courage of your convictions rather than be a snide little st.

i don't think anyone would disagree about the card hander but her focus is on requesting outrage (while at the same time saying she isn't fat and anyway it shouldn't matter)

tackling the core issue rather than celebrating individualism accompanied by denial or whatever is what's needed

we can massively tax smokers and tell them they shouldn't but we mustn't upset fatties