Woman given card from "Overweight haters"
Discussion
JagLover said:
MrBarry123 said:
The whole story demonstrates a societal problem we have now, created in part by social media and in part by porn, where women are expected to look a certain way i.e. as close to physical "perfection" as possible; mainly because of all the focus the media now puts on women who spend every waking moment focusing on their appearance. If you scroll through the first page of Instagram, all you have is female fitness models (with the occasional guy appearing) who do, admittedly, all have have fantastic physiques however it's completely unrepresentative of a woman who doesn't have a nutritionist, can't spend 4 hours a day in the gym and whose only focus isn't their body.
Incorrect.In my office there are many ladies who I would consider have a "perfect" body, including one 40+ mother of two. They work at it rather than sit around eating cake and moaning about unrealistic expectations.
poo at Paul's said:
Shaoxter said:
Except being fat is a lifestyle choice whereas being black is not.
Ok there may be 1% of them who have serious disorders but almost all fat people are fat due to lack of discipline.
The wording in the letter is a bit extreme but sometimes a reality check is needed. The woman in the pic is NOT a normal/healthy/attractive size.
You need to check out the definition of "normal". If she is a size 14, she's normal. Ok there may be 1% of them who have serious disorders but almost all fat people are fat due to lack of discipline.
The wording in the letter is a bit extreme but sometimes a reality check is needed. The woman in the pic is NOT a normal/healthy/attractive size.
Get over yourselves, ffs.
I am 14 stone, 6ft1 and broad, I look fine and am fit, I train with a PT once a week and at least once, usually twice, without. My missus is a size 12, she runs once a week. She is not a supermodel, and neither am I. The woman in the photo who was handed this card by a prick, is completely normal in my eyes, and in the eyes of the majority of the population. On the basis that average woman's size is 5ft 3, 11 stone, size 16, and most women of age have a partner, I'd suggest anyone thinking she is not "normal" is not themselves "normal" by definition, ie the majority of women are bigger than her and the majority of them are in relationships with guys who think they are fine.
Being of a particular religious persuasion is a "lifestyle" choice as you say it, so you think it would be ok to go around handing out cards to Muslims and Budhists pointing out one's prejudices and calling them names..?
Take a look at yourselves men of PH if you think this is in ANY way justified..
Nobody is defending the guy that gave the card to that woman, plenty of people have said that it is not an acceptable thing to do. But, if we think she's fat, we are entitled to say that. Too many apologists make excuses for too many people nowadays.
poo at Paul's said:
On the basis that average woman's size is 5ft 3, 11 stone, size 16, and most women of age have a partner, I'd suggest anyone thinking she is not "normal" is not themselves "normal" by definition,
I can assure you that any woman that stands 5ft 3" and weighs 11 stone is quite seriously overweight in health terms.JagLover said:
Incorrect.
In my office there are many ladies who I would consider have a "perfect" body, including one 40+ mother of two. They work at it rather than sit around eating cake and moaning about unrealistic expectations.
But they do it for themselves, not you. So for all the others that don't have the (in your opinion) "perfect body", it doesn't matter a sIn my office there are many ladies who I would consider have a "perfect" body, including one 40+ mother of two. They work at it rather than sit around eating cake and moaning about unrealistic expectations.
t, they can look like whatever they like, no? It's none of your business. popeyewhite said:
poo at Paul's said:
On the basis that average woman's size is 5ft 3, 11 stone, size 16, and most women of age have a partner, I'd suggest anyone thinking she is not "normal" is not themselves "normal" by definition,
I can assure you that any woman that stands 5ft 3" and weighs 11 stone is quite seriously overweight in health terms.s3fella said:
JagLover said:
Incorrect.
In my office there are many ladies who I would consider have a "perfect" body, including one 40+ mother of two. They work at it rather than sit around eating cake and moaning about unrealistic expectations.
But they do it for themselves, not you. So for all the others that don't have the (in your opinion) "perfect body", it doesn't matter a sIn my office there are many ladies who I would consider have a "perfect" body, including one 40+ mother of two. They work at it rather than sit around eating cake and moaning about unrealistic expectations.
t, they can look like whatever they like, no? It's none of your business. popeyewhite said:
poo at Paul's said:
On the basis that average woman's size is 5ft 3, 11 stone, size 16, and most women of age have a partner, I'd suggest anyone thinking she is not "normal" is not themselves "normal" by definition,
I can assure you that any woman that stands 5ft 3" and weighs 11 stone is quite seriously overweight in health terms.FWIW whoever is handing out these cards to women is spineless and vile. If they wish to show they have some stones, they can hand me one, as an "obese" fella. I'm guessing I am safe though me being a guy and all.
popeyewhite said:
poo at Paul's said:
On the basis that average woman's size is 5ft 3, 11 stone, size 16, and most women of age have a partner, I'd suggest anyone thinking she is not "normal" is not themselves "normal" by definition,
I can assure you that any woman that stands 5ft 3" and weighs 11 stone is quite seriously overweight in health terms.It's obviously not healthy or desirable in any way though.
Edited by el stovey on Tuesday 1st December 11:34
poo at Paul's said:
You need to check out the definition of "normal". If she is a size 14, she's normal.
Not a normal I would accept and I am hardly alone.There might be a great number of men out there unhappy and wondering what happened to the svelte twenty something they married, but this is all "normal" apparently so they should just accept it.
Rather than peddle falsehoods young women should be aware that if they want their pick they need to keep in shape.
I am not in perfect shape myself but I am aware of this and try hard to better myself by working out twice a week and trying to walk as much as I can and watch what I eat. I don't slap my stomach and say "come on girls ride the waves" and expect them accept my "normal" shape.
okgo said:
poo at Paul's said:
....And yet she is a far nicer person than you are.
I'm one of the least pleasant people I know. But I wear 31 inch waist jeans, deal with it chubby.
Unpleasant and uneducated, too. Bravo!
BrabusMog said:
Of course it's none of anyone's business how anyone else looks. But look at how many fat, sorry "curvy", women, judge thin, athletic women for "creating unrealistic expectations"? It's a two way street, they have to be tolerant if they wish to be tolerated themselves. Look how many fat women you see writing pretty horrific things about slim models etc. And I'm not talking about size 2 runway models, but sports stars and the like that get lambasted for setting a bad example to kids when they're actually the healthy ones.
And yet no evidence that either of the women handed these cards, ie the subject of this thread are in any way criticising any other woman.....at all. And no evidence that any of the women in his office that don't have the "perfect" bodies are doing anything similar? So rather a pointless comment, don't you think?
For all you guys pontificating about how fat these women are and how it is their fault, go and make your comments to your circle of female friends and acquaintances, colleagues, then see what they think of you.
Otherwise you're not much better than the scum handing out these cards, you're anonymously criticising a stranger who has done nothing to you and only come to your attention due to the vile actions of a couple of smart arse cowardly tools. Would you say what you are saying here to her face.....? What about if she was with her boyfriend or dad?
You should be ashamed of yourselves in all honesty. Call yourself "men"?
okgo said:
Lets not pretend this is only women though, I would imagine a fair proportion of posters in this very thread have an overhang.
Normal it may be, pleasant or healthy it is not.
As i say to my Mrs - Love the belly Normal it may be, pleasant or healthy it is not.
As in my belly, she does not have one, although she is distraught if she puts a pound on and believes she is one step from fat camp, despite being well within correct BMI!
Edited by Rude-boy on Tuesday 1st December 11:43
Shaoxter said:
popeyewhite said:
poo at Paul's said:
On the basis that average woman's size is 5ft 3, 11 stone, size 16, and most women of age have a partner, I'd suggest anyone thinking she is not "normal" is not themselves "normal" by definition,
I can assure you that any woman that stands 5ft 3" and weighs 11 stone is quite seriously overweight in health terms.I'm old enough to just about remember as a kid the last of post-war rationing, and my mum cutting out ration coupons from her ration book with scissors. Don't remember there being a lot of wobbly overweight people around during my childhood.
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