America, shooting, again??

[Europa1]

Finally, some people in the legislature are taking action in staging a sit in in the House of Representatives. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-36598736

[unrepentant]

Europa1 said:

Finally, some people in the legislature are taking action in staging a sit in in the House of Representatives. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-36598736

Yep, lead by John Lewis, a real American hero.

This issue will bring down some Republican lawmakers, 90% of republican voters agree with the democrats. Ryan's response is the typically cowardly one of someone who is merely trying to keep under the radar so he can run for president in 2020. The last thing he wants is a debate where he knows his side can't win. Vote for sensible gun control measures and ps off the NRA and their open check books. Vote against sensible gun control measures and ps off 90% of your voters. Take the cowardly way out and deny the debate and hope nobody notices. From Trump down there is no leadership in the GOP, they are a pathetic shell where once there was a political party.

[Jimbeaux]

Check this out. Federal agencies such as the Food & Drug Administration, Plant & Animal Agency, the Smithsonian, etc. have spent millions on military equipment and various weapons, some of the assault variety. Read the article and please offer me a suggestion as to why the listed agencies need what they ordered and in the quantities ordered.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/report-fda-smiths...

[Countdown]

Because there are an awful lot of loons in the USA with access to high=power weaponry and a resentment of the "Guv'mint".

[Jimbeaux]

Countdown said:

Because there are an awful lot of loons in the USA with access to high=power weaponry and a resentment of the "Guv'mint".

So, you openly suggest that those combined 180,000 people, from those "benign" federal agencies are there to be assembled against a public revolt? That being the public that they work for and serve? Very, very interesting. Thank you for that.

[Countdown]

Jimbeaux said:

So, you openly suggest that those combined 180,000 people, from those "benign" federal agencies are there to be assembled against a public revolt? That being the public that they work for and serve? Very, very interesting. Thank you for that.

No. I think there are an awful lot of loons in the USA who resent the US Govt from carrying out its lawful duty. As such the US Govt. needs to be suitable armed.

Now, if only those lunatics would give up their guns, there would be less need for your federal agencies to be so heavily armed. Anyway, you're a deomcracy. If you don't like it, vote Loon.

[Jimbeaux]

Countdown said:

Jimbeaux said:

So, you openly suggest that those combined 180,000 people, from those "benign" federal agencies are there to be assembled against a public revolt? That being the public that they work for and serve? Very, very interesting. Thank you for that.

No. I think there are an awful lot of loons in the USA who resent the US Govt from carrying out its lawful duty. As such the US Govt. needs to be suitable armed.

Now, if only those lunatics would give up their guns, there would be less need for your federal agencies to be so heavily armed. Anyway, you're a deomcracy. If you don't like it, vote Loon.

1st rule of Marxism, disarm your public, over-arm your government branches. You sound a bit Marxist here.

[Halmyre]

Jimbeaux said:

Countdown said:

Jimbeaux said:

So, you openly suggest that those combined 180,000 people, from those "benign" federal agencies are there to be assembled against a public revolt? That being the public that they work for and serve? Very, very interesting. Thank you for that.

No. I think there are an awful lot of loons in the USA who resent the US Govt from carrying out its lawful duty. As such the US Govt. needs to be suitable armed.

Now, if only those lunatics would give up their guns, there would be less need for your federal agencies to be so heavily armed. Anyway, you're a deomcracy. If you don't like it, vote Loon.

1st rule of Marxism, disarm your public, over-arm your government branches. You sound a bit Marxist here.

Groucho or Karl?

[Jimbeaux]

Halmyre said:

Jimbeaux said:

Countdown said:

Jimbeaux said:

So, you openly suggest that those combined 180,000 people, from those "benign" federal agencies are there to be assembled against a public revolt? That being the public that they work for and serve? Very, very interesting. Thank you for that.

No. I think there are an awful lot of loons in the USA who resent the US Govt from carrying out its lawful duty. As such the US Govt. needs to be suitable armed.

Now, if only those lunatics would give up their guns, there would be less need for your federal agencies to be so heavily armed. Anyway, you're a deomcracy. If you don't like it, vote Loon.

1st rule of Marxism, disarm your public, over-arm your government branches. You sound a bit Marxist here.

Groucho or Karl?

Karl, but Groucho's nose was almost equally dangerous.

[WinstonWolf]

http://time.com/4386832/nfl-football-zurlon-tipton...

They still don't get it...

[Halmyre]

WinstonWolf said:

http://time.com/4386832/nfl-football-zurlon-tipton...

They still don't get it...

Guns don't kill people, duffel bags kill people. Ban duffel bags now!

[rohrl]

A gun shop in Chicago is raffling an AR-15 to raise money for the victims of the Orlando shooting.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/...

[Jimbeaux]

rohrl said:

A gun shop in Chicago is raffling an AR-15 to raise money for the victims of the Orlando shooting.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/...

A wonderful cause, they'll raise a good chunk I wager.

[Puggit]

Gunman on the rampage at Andrews Airforce Base according to BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-36676380...

[lionelf]

http://news.sky.com/story/chicago-sees-2000-gun-cr...

"In Chicago, on Tuesday, nearly 30 people were shot, bringing the weekend's toll to 66, with at least five fatalities.

Among those injured was a five-year-old girl and her eight-year-old cousin, who were both shot in the leg while playing with sparklers.

Two other children were also hit by gunfire."

That's 66 people in one city in one weekend. I cannot even begin to get my head around that. How/Why does anyone live there any more?

[Some Gump]

^maybe it's this new 4 day weekend that's tempting people to stay?

[Mario149]

Jimbeaux said:

Mario149 said:

I wouldn't ever consider having a firearm in the house (even if I could!) for home defence.

That is certainly up to you Mario; however, the crims here are more likely to be armed when violating one's home. When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

That may be true, but you're still faaaaar more likely to shoot yourself or a family member than a crim invading your house. So if you did in fact have an armed crim in your house, a pistol might be useful, the vast majority of the time you don't it's just a liability that's more likely to kill you and yours than a "baddie".

[Mario149]

Bill said:

I had a look for some statistics on the likelihood of home invasion in the US and found this: http://livingstingy.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/are-int... The stats match ones I've found elsewhere so I don't doubt they are correct, and the conclusions he draws match mine.

I have kids and a shotgun that's locked away, seperately to the cartridges (I still have the scars on my finger from "experimenting" with cartridges as a child...), and if home invasion was likely I'd move.

Yeah, that link pretty much sums it up I think

[Mario149]

Jimbeaux said:

1st rule of Marxism, disarm your public, over-arm your government branches. You sound a bit Marxist here.

I just find the notion that an armed US public would stop a malicious US government oppressing them is quite laughable. You'd have Jim Bob and a few hundred of his fat middle aged mates popping away at the national guard with AR-15s for about 15 mins before a Super Hornet dropped a Paveway II on them.

[wc98]

Mario149 said:

I just find the notion that an armed US public would stop a malicious US government oppressing them is quite laughable. You'd have Jim Bob and a few hundred of his fat middle aged mates popping away at the national guard with AR-15s for about 15 mins before a Super Hornet dropped a Paveway II on them.

and what gives jim bob or one of his mates the authority to decide the government is acting maliciously ? one mans malicious is anothers democratic governance .