Lee Rigby's killer wants compo

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jogger1976

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1,251 posts

126 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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I'm sat watching SKY news and it appears that Michael Adebolajo kicked off big time while being moved from his cell. It took five prison staff to restrain him, during which two of his teeth were knocked out.

Now he's whingeing that his "uman rites" have been breached and he wants up to £20000 compo. If he is represented and does win the money, then whoever represents him should hang their heads in shame.

What a scumbag!mad

jesusbuiltmycar

4,536 posts

254 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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jogger1976 said:
I'm sat watching SKY news and it appears that Michael Adebolajo kicked off big time while being moved from his cell. It took five prison staff to restrain him, during which two of his teeth were knocked out.

Now he's whingeing that his "uman rites" have been breached and he wants up to £20000 compo. If he is represented and does win the money, then whoever represents him should hang their heads in shame.

What a scumbag!mad
Whoever represents him, probably put him up to the claim...

wiggy001

6,545 posts

271 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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How did we get to a situation where such compensation claims can even be considered? Apart from what I hope is a minority of left-wing human-rights activists, I would imagine the vast majority of people would say that had he not murdered someone he wouldn't have found himself in that situation ie it's all of his own doing.

Is it too late for us as a country to go back to a little bit of common-sense thinking, or has that ship now sailed?

s3fella

10,524 posts

187 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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Give him the money, in cash, in £50 notes, in prison. Then see how long he lasts walking about with that sort of coin.

MartG

20,666 posts

204 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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s3fella said:
Give him the money, in cash, in £50 notes, in prison. Then see how long he lasts walking about with that sort of coin.
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killingjoker

950 posts

193 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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F**k him. He should have been hanged.

Digga

40,300 posts

283 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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killingjoker said:
F**k him. He should have been hanged.
I am beginning to consider whether terrorism should be considered high treason and capital punishment be reinstated. It's tempting, until you consider he's probably not enjoying his stay at HMP.

TurboHatchback

4,159 posts

153 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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wiggy001 said:
Is it too late for us as a country to go back to a little bit of common-sense thinking, or has that ship now sailed?
Yes, that ship sailed long ago. Common sense is now banned and anyone attempting to use it is guilt of an 'ism'.

Collectingbrass

2,207 posts

195 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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So a public employee may have been negligent in the course of their duties and may have injured someone. Because that someone was previously a scumbag (for which they are already being punished) they deserve no recompense or restitution for the result of the alleged negligence?

Where's the cut off? Any particular religions we should single out? Any racial groups? How much of a scumbag do you need to be? Do we not pay out to 3.14lockopeners? What about "promising footballers" & "Aintree Ladies"?

What you're talking about is double jeopardy, and that's not how we do things, nor if we start doing it is it a country I want to be part of.

Don't get me wrong, I'd rather he'd committed suicide by cop but he didn't and we prosecuted him as required by our laws and culture. He was properly (as in in accordance with that process) found guilty by a jury of his peers and he is serving his time. That doesn't mean any screw can give him a shoeing and expect to get away with it, nor does it mean that we shouldn't treat him the same as we treat any other subject of the crown. Because if it did we would be no worse than ISIS.

I actually think the Home Office / Prison Service doubt that they can win a civil case and are raising the prospect of a payout to poison the jury. If so, shame on them, we need to be better than ISIS to win the moral war.

Voldemort

6,134 posts

278 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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Collectingbrass said:
So a public employee may have been negligent in the course of their duties and may have injured someone. Because that someone was previously a scumbag (for which they are already being punished) they deserve no recompense or restitution for the result of the alleged negligence?

Where's the cut off? Any particular religions we should single out? Any racial groups? How much of a scumbag do you need to be? Do we not pay out to 3.14lockopeners? What about "promising footballers" & "Aintree Ladies"?

What you're talking about is double jeopardy, and that's not how we do things, nor if we start doing it is it a country I want to be part of.

Don't get me wrong, I'd rather he'd committed suicide by cop but he didn't and we prosecuted him as required by our laws and culture. He was properly (as in in accordance with that process) found guilty by a jury of his peers and he is serving his time. That doesn't mean any screw can give him a shoeing and expect to get away with it, nor does it mean that we shouldn't treat him the same as we treat any other subject of the crown. Because if it did we would be no worse than ISIS.

I actually think the Home Office / Prison Service doubt that they can win a civil case and are raising the prospect of a payout to poison the jury. If so, shame on them, we need to be better than ISIS to win the moral war.
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FredClogs

14,041 posts

161 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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Collectingbrass said:
So a public employee may have been negligent in the course of their duties and may have injured someone.
They weren't, the officers in question have already undergone investigation and found to be blameless for the events that led to him loosing his teeth, blameless in that they were carrying out their duties by the book. He's a big lad, sometimes when big lads kick off people loose teeth.


Collectingbrass said:
Don't get me wrong
Fat chance of that around here...

rohrl

8,725 posts

145 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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What is the issue here? The mere fact that he's made a compo claim?

He is of course free to claim whatever he likes. It doesn't mean he'll get anything. Especially as there has been a police investigation into the incident and no charges have been brought against members of staff.

ATG

20,552 posts

272 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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Collectingbrass is on the money. The murder this bloke committed has absolutely nothing to do with whether the officers did things by the book, nor whether "the book" itself is reasonable. It makes no sense to conflate the two, and the Home Office is spinning when it does so.

Collectingbrass

2,207 posts

195 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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rohrl said:
What is the issue here? The mere fact that he's made a compo claim?

He is of course free to claim whatever he likes. It doesn't mean he'll get anything. Especially as there has been a police investigation into the incident and no charges have been brought against members of staff.
Just because the Police weren't able to find / prove a breach of criminal law doesn't mean the civil courts won't find in his favour on the basis of balance of probabilities as the level to reach is far lower - which is what I think the Prison Service / Home Office is bothered about.

BoRED S2upid

19,686 posts

240 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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Let him claim it and win then the next day Lee rigbys family counter sue and he looses it all.

v8250

2,724 posts

211 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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This, is absolute insanity. fkers like this should immediately lose any/all rights to conventional claim process. In fact, why waste any tax payers monies on this life wasting individual...a simple bullet would do the job and I imagine their are plenty of Army personnel who'd pay to load the bullet and pull that trigger. Compensation, just how mad has this country become?

over_the_hill

3,187 posts

246 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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jesusbuiltmycar said:
jogger1976 said:
I'm sat watching SKY news and it appears that Michael Adebolajo kicked off big time while being moved from his cell. It took five prison staff to restrain him, during which two of his teeth were knocked out.

Now he's whingeing that his "uman rites" have been breached and he wants up to £20000 compo. If he is represented and does win the money, then whoever represents him should hang their heads in shame.

What a scumbag!mad
Whoever represents him, probably put him up to the claim...
This. It will be some wannabe trying to make a name for themselves.

The problem with all of this type of thing (and the motoring whiplash claims are no different as it's usually just cheaper to pay up than try and defend) is that there is no comeback to the claimant. Take a punt - if you win then quids in, if you lose then you don't actually lose anything. Maybe if the claimant loses they pay the other party the amount they were claiming for.

wiggy001

6,545 posts

271 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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Can someone please tell me what use the compo will be to him when he is serving a whole life tariff at her majesty's pleasure?

worsy

5,803 posts

175 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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wiggy001 said:
Can someone please tell me what use the compo will be to him when he is serving a whole life tariff at her majesty's pleasure?
Purchase prison luxuries (chocolate, magazines) without having to perform a job?

KrazyIvan

4,341 posts

175 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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wiggy001 said:
Can someone please tell me what use the compo will be to him when he is serving a whole life tariff at her majesty's pleasure?
He can use the money to pay compensation to Lee Rigbys family.