Lee Rigby's killer wants compo
Discussion
I thought when hearing this on the news it was 'news', but apparently this was over 2 years ago when he was held in Belmarsh?
More waste of money which we apparently keep being told we don't have.
Can't he be given to a Uni for research into finding the top speed a human can cross the M25 during rush hour, or when the most juggernauts are travelling?
The research programme would not cost too much and hopefully wouldn't last too long either.
More waste of money which we apparently keep being told we don't have.
Can't he be given to a Uni for research into finding the top speed a human can cross the M25 during rush hour, or when the most juggernauts are travelling?
The research programme would not cost too much and hopefully wouldn't last too long either.
Digga said:
killingjoker said:
F**k him. He should have been hanged.
I am beginning to consider whether terrorism should be considered high treason and capital punishment be reinstated. It's tempting, until you consider he's probably not enjoying his stay at HMP.Collectingbrass said:
So a public employee may have been negligent in the course of their duties and may have injured someone. Because that someone was previously a scumbag (for which they are already being punished) they deserve no recompense or restitution for the result of the alleged negligence?
Where's the cut off? Any particular religions we should single out? Any racial groups? How much of a scumbag do you need to be? Do we not pay out to 3.14lockopeners? What about "promising footballers" & "Aintree Ladies"?
What you're talking about is double jeopardy, and that's not how we do things, nor if we start doing it is it a country I want to be part of.
Don't get me wrong, I'd rather he'd committed suicide by cop but he didn't and we prosecuted him as required by our laws and culture. He was properly (as in in accordance with that process) found guilty by a jury of his peers and he is serving his time. That doesn't mean any screw can give him a shoeing and expect to get away with it, nor does it mean that we shouldn't treat him the same as we treat any other subject of the crown. Because if it did we would be no worse than ISIS.
I actually think the Home Office / Prison Service doubt that they can win a civil case and are raising the prospect of a payout to poison the jury. If so, shame on them, we need to be better than ISIS to win the moral war.
Utter balderdash, if he hadn't kicked off he'd still have his teeth.Where's the cut off? Any particular religions we should single out? Any racial groups? How much of a scumbag do you need to be? Do we not pay out to 3.14lockopeners? What about "promising footballers" & "Aintree Ladies"?
What you're talking about is double jeopardy, and that's not how we do things, nor if we start doing it is it a country I want to be part of.
Don't get me wrong, I'd rather he'd committed suicide by cop but he didn't and we prosecuted him as required by our laws and culture. He was properly (as in in accordance with that process) found guilty by a jury of his peers and he is serving his time. That doesn't mean any screw can give him a shoeing and expect to get away with it, nor does it mean that we shouldn't treat him the same as we treat any other subject of the crown. Because if it did we would be no worse than ISIS.
I actually think the Home Office / Prison Service doubt that they can win a civil case and are raising the prospect of a payout to poison the jury. If so, shame on them, we need to be better than ISIS to win the moral war.
The 'scum still have ooman rights' attitude is wrong and needs to be put back in it's box.
If you can't do the time don't do the crime.
Collectingbrass said:
So a public employee may have been negligent in the course of their duties and may have injured someone. Because that someone was previously a scumbag (for which they are already being punished) they deserve no recompense or restitution for the result of the alleged negligence?
Where's the cut off? Any particular religions we should single out? Any racial groups? How much of a scumbag do you need to be? Do we not pay out to 3.14lockopeners? What about "promising footballers" & "Aintree Ladies"?
What you're talking about is double jeopardy, and that's not how we do things, nor if we start doing it is it a country I want to be part of.
Don't get me wrong, I'd rather he'd committed suicide by cop but he didn't and we prosecuted him as required by our laws and culture. He was properly (as in in accordance with that process) found guilty by a jury of his peers and he is serving his time. That doesn't mean any screw can give him a shoeing and expect to get away with it, nor does it mean that we shouldn't treat him the same as we treat any other subject of the crown. Because if it did we would be no worse than ISIS.
I actually think the Home Office / Prison Service doubt that they can win a civil case and are raising the prospect of a payout to poison the jury. If so, shame on them, we need to be better than ISIS to win the moral war.
It isn't. Double jeopardy is framing somebody for your murder which didn't happen, then when they are released from and extract revenge by murdering you, they can't be tried again.Where's the cut off? Any particular religions we should single out? Any racial groups? How much of a scumbag do you need to be? Do we not pay out to 3.14lockopeners? What about "promising footballers" & "Aintree Ladies"?
What you're talking about is double jeopardy, and that's not how we do things, nor if we start doing it is it a country I want to be part of.
Don't get me wrong, I'd rather he'd committed suicide by cop but he didn't and we prosecuted him as required by our laws and culture. He was properly (as in in accordance with that process) found guilty by a jury of his peers and he is serving his time. That doesn't mean any screw can give him a shoeing and expect to get away with it, nor does it mean that we shouldn't treat him the same as we treat any other subject of the crown. Because if it did we would be no worse than ISIS.
I actually think the Home Office / Prison Service doubt that they can win a civil case and are raising the prospect of a payout to poison the jury. If so, shame on them, we need to be better than ISIS to win the moral war.
IMO it is simple, those who choose to break the law, should not expect to be protected or compensated by the law.
WinstonWolf said:
Collectingbrass said:
So a public employee may have been negligent in the course of their duties and may have injured someone. Because that someone was previously a scumbag (for which they are already being punished) they deserve no recompense or restitution for the result of the alleged negligence?
Where's the cut off? Any particular religions we should single out? Any racial groups? How much of a scumbag do you need to be? Do we not pay out to 3.14lockopeners? What about "promising footballers" & "Aintree Ladies"?
What you're talking about is double jeopardy, and that's not how we do things, nor if we start doing it is it a country I want to be part of.
Don't get me wrong, I'd rather he'd committed suicide by cop but he didn't and we prosecuted him as required by our laws and culture. He was properly (as in in accordance with that process) found guilty by a jury of his peers and he is serving his time. That doesn't mean any screw can give him a shoeing and expect to get away with it, nor does it mean that we shouldn't treat him the same as we treat any other subject of the crown. Because if it did we would be no worse than ISIS.
I actually think the Home Office / Prison Service doubt that they can win a civil case and are raising the prospect of a payout to poison the jury. If so, shame on them, we need to be better than ISIS to win the moral war.
Utter balderdash, if he hadn't kicked off he'd still have his teeth.Where's the cut off? Any particular religions we should single out? Any racial groups? How much of a scumbag do you need to be? Do we not pay out to 3.14lockopeners? What about "promising footballers" & "Aintree Ladies"?
What you're talking about is double jeopardy, and that's not how we do things, nor if we start doing it is it a country I want to be part of.
Don't get me wrong, I'd rather he'd committed suicide by cop but he didn't and we prosecuted him as required by our laws and culture. He was properly (as in in accordance with that process) found guilty by a jury of his peers and he is serving his time. That doesn't mean any screw can give him a shoeing and expect to get away with it, nor does it mean that we shouldn't treat him the same as we treat any other subject of the crown. Because if it did we would be no worse than ISIS.
I actually think the Home Office / Prison Service doubt that they can win a civil case and are raising the prospect of a payout to poison the jury. If so, shame on them, we need to be better than ISIS to win the moral war.
The 'scum still have ooman rights' attitude is wrong and needs to be put back in it's box.
If you can't do the time don't do the crime.
Megaflow said:
IMO it is simple, those who choose to break the law, should not expect to be protected or compensated by the law.
I break the speed limit, so you're allowed to burgle my house? I nick a traffic cone, so you're allowed to punch me in the face?Doesn't really make sense, does it?
Digga said:
killingjoker said:
F**k him. He should have been hanged.
I am beginning to consider whether terrorism should be considered high treason and capital punishment be reinstated.ATG said:
Megaflow said:
IMO it is simple, those who choose to break the law, should not expect to be protected or compensated by the law.
I break the speed limit, so you're allowed to burgle my house? I nick a traffic cone, so you're allowed to punch me in the face?Doesn't really make sense, does it?
you realise him and his buddy actually murdered someone?
loss of a couple of teeth comes somewhere below being murdered I'd say.
Collectingbrass said:
So a public employee may have been negligent in the course of their duties and may have injured someone. Because that someone was previously a scumbag (for which they are already being punished) they deserve no recompense or restitution for the result of the alleged negligence?
BINGO!poo at Paul's said:
Collectingbrass said:
So a public employee may have been negligent in the course of their duties and may have injured someone. Because that someone was previously a scumbag (for which they are already being punished) they deserve no recompense or restitution for the result of the alleged negligence?
BINGO!Would be helpful (for once) if some ambulance chaser lawyer would now sue the scumbag for the death of Lee Rigby so that any compensation and subsequent compensation claims for shoeings and teeth compo deserved or undeserved goes straight out to the Rigby family.
No sympathy for the scumbag at all. Should have hung.
No sympathy for the scumbag at all. Should have hung.
ATG said:
kev1974 said:
well they're not really comparable crimes you've suggested there now are they
you realise him and his buddy actually murdered someone?
loss of a couple of teeth comes somewhere below being murdered I'd say.
I think you've missed the pointyou realise him and his buddy actually murdered someone?
loss of a couple of teeth comes somewhere below being murdered I'd say.
I don't believe anything else needs saying...
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