Moderate Muslims

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Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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dudleybloke said:
If they're putting a buffet on I'll turn up.
Lol, a man/(woman) after my own heart.

Countdown

39,824 posts

196 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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PRTVR said:
Be honest, open day are not the normal going on of what ever establishment you visit, when the company I work for had a open day everything was polished to within an inch of its life and everybody was on their best behaviour, same if you go to a school open day, I still think the idea is a good one, but is nothing more than a controlled snap shot
You know how churches generally tend to be full of old boring people? Mosques are pretty much the same.

You know how you get the once-a-year brigade turning up for midnight mass? Mosques are pretty much the same.


Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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On the news now. Lots of men and women mixing and no head covering in sight.

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

159 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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Alpinestars said:
On the news now. Lots of men and women mixing and no head covering in sight.
smile
This is how you begin to break down barriers.



Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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Troubleatmill said:
smile
This is how you begin to break down barriers.
It was Finsbury Park as well. That was the mosque that nut case hooky took over wasn't it? Much reformed apparently.

PRTVR

7,093 posts

221 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Countdown said:
PRTVR said:
Be honest, open day are not the normal going on of what ever establishment you visit, when the company I work for had a open day everything was polished to within an inch of its life and everybody was on their best behaviour, same if you go to a school open day, I still think the idea is a good one, but is nothing more than a controlled snap shot
You know how churches generally tend to be full of old boring people? Mosques are pretty much the same.

You know how you get the once-a-year brigade turning up for midnight mass? Mosques are pretty much the same.
My perception is slightly different, Islam is not just a religion, its a total life commitment, look at the young people heading out to Syria, their beliefs must be strong to even consider such actions, walk through Birmingham and observe the dress code of Muslims, its not just the odd one or two, I think you are stretching it a bit to compare it to a church congregation.

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196 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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PRTVR said:
My perception is slightly different, Islam is not just a religion, its a total life commitment,
It really isn't. The vast majority of people I went to Mosque with have grown out of it. The level of "commitment" ranges from "devout believer" to "attends mosque only on Eid and sit at the back playing angry birds"

PRTVR said:
look at the young people heading out to Syria, their beliefs must be strong to even consider such actions, walk through Birmingham and observe the dress code of Muslims, its not just the odd one or two, I think you are stretching it a bit to compare it to a church congregation.
As above, there is a spectrum, and some are more "visible" than others. I can guarantee that I will see far more "muslim" men/women wearing western clothes than dressed in religious gear such as Burqas. [Bear in mind that people wearing salwar kamiz or sari aren't doing it for religious reasons]

matchmaker

8,484 posts

200 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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dudleybloke said:
Alpinestars said:
dudleybloke said:
I wonder if they will let women in this time?
You should try wink
If they're putting a buffet on I'll turn up.
Mmm - sausage rolls!

AJS-

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15,366 posts

236 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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All religions have a spectrum of how seriously people take them. The problem with Islam is that some people, if and when they decide to take it more seriously, don't join a monastery or a kibbutz, they join ISIS or the Muslim Brotherhood. They agitate for political domination or fabricate stories to paint themselves as victims of persecution and hamper counter terrorism operations.

The fact is that this is deeply ingrained in the religion in a way that it simply isn't with Christianity or Buddhism.

Until we can face this fact and identify the genuinely peaceful Muslims we're just feeding political and potentially violent Islam.

TTwiggy

11,536 posts

204 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Are you still here? I was rather hoping that following your crass remark on the channel crossing thread you might have received your marching orders.

Sam All

3,101 posts

101 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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TTwiggy said:
Are you still here? I was rather hoping that following your crass remark on the channel crossing thread you might have received your marching orders.
AJS- adds a lot to the debate. Are you not pleased he is still here?

PRTVR

7,093 posts

221 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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TTwiggy said:
Are you still here? I was rather hoping that following your crass remark on the channel crossing thread you might have received your marching orders.
Lets kill debate shall we ?

danllama

5,728 posts

142 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Alpinestars said:
I don't disagree with that but it's always damned if you do, damned if you don't. Most places of worship are open to all "24/7" in any case. Given the bad press Muslims get at the moment, what would you suggest?
A British police officer stationed inside every mosque in the UK?

AJS-

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15,366 posts

236 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Maybe you could lobby the mods for something specific about Islamophobia in the rules TTwiggy? It already mentions racism but that's a bit last year isn't it?

TTwiggy

11,536 posts

204 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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AJS- said:
Maybe you could lobby the mods for something specific about Islamophobia in the rules TTwiggy? It already mentions racism but that's a bit last year isn't it?
I don't think that wishing a drowning on people is covered by either.

TTwiggy

11,536 posts

204 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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PRTVR said:
Lets kill debate shall we ?
What debate?

AJS-

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236 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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That's reading a lot into a little, but let's not derail this thread with one that already got banned eh?

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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TTwiggy said:
Are you still here? I was rather hoping that following your crass remark on the channel crossing thread you might have received your marching orders.
Stop stirring, *you* have been warned...

TTwiggy

11,536 posts

204 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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WinstonWolf said:
Stop stirring, *you* have been warned...
As stirring is all you ever do I'm amazed you're still here.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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TTwiggy said:
WinstonWolf said:
Stop stirring, *you* have been warned...
As stirring is all you ever do I'm amazed you're still here.
I don't stir, I merely point out when people are being idiotic...