Moderate Muslims

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TTwiggy

11,537 posts

204 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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WinstonWolf said:
I don't stir, I merely point out when people are being idiotic...
Questioning the ingrained Islamophobia on this site is idiotic?

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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TTwiggy said:
WinstonWolf said:
I don't stir, I merely point out when people are being idiotic...
Questioning the ingrained Islamophobia on this site is idiotic?
Calling legitimate concerns about Islamic extremism 'phobic' is idiotic.


TTwiggy

11,537 posts

204 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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WinstonWolf said:
Calling legitimate concerns about Islamic extremism 'phobic' is idiotic.
Legitimate concerns went out of the window on here years ago. This thread is a case in point. If the subject of this thread were any other minority group I am confident it would not be allowed under forum rules.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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TTwiggy said:
WinstonWolf said:
Calling legitimate concerns about Islamic extremism 'phobic' is idiotic.
Legitimate concerns went out of the window on here years ago. This thread is a case in point. If the subject of this thread were any other minority group I am confident it would not be allowed under forum rules.
There's a handy report button next to every post if you think anything oversteps the mark.

TTwiggy

11,537 posts

204 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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WinstonWolf said:
There's a handy report button next to every post if you think anything oversteps the mark.
Never used it. Never plan to.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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TTwiggy said:
WinstonWolf said:
There's a handy report button next to every post if you think anything oversteps the mark.
Never used it. Never plan to.
Can't be that offensive then...

TTwiggy

11,537 posts

204 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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WinstonWolf said:
Can't be that offensive then...
I don't do 'offended'. I just know what I believe in.

Sam All

3,101 posts

101 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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TTwiggy said:
Questioning the ingrained Islamophobia on this site is idiotic?
Let the Mods decide.

Sam All

3,101 posts

101 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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TTwiggy said:
WinstonWolf said:
Can't be that offensive then...
I don't do 'offended'. I just know what I believe in.
What do you believe?

PRTVR

7,101 posts

221 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Countdown said:
PRTVR said:
My perception is slightly different, Islam is not just a religion, its a total life commitment,
It really isn't. The vast majority of people I went to Mosque with have grown out of it. The level of "commitment" ranges from "devout believer" to "attends mosque only on Eid and sit at the back playing angry birds"

PRTVR said:
look at the young people heading out to Syria, their beliefs must be strong to even consider such actions, walk through Birmingham and observe the dress code of Muslims, its not just the odd one or two, I think you are stretching it a bit to compare it to a church congregation.
As above, there is a spectrum, and some are more "visible" than others. I can guarantee that I will see far more "muslim" men/women wearing western clothes than dressed in religious gear such as Burqas. [Bear in mind that people wearing salwar kamiz or sari aren't doing it for religious reasons]
If this is so why are mosque numbers increasing ? the clothing thing why would somebody wear such clothing in a society that did not demand it? as for the Burqas it was my understanding that even that was not religious, but something started in Saudi in the 70s that appears a way for men to control women.

TTwiggy

11,537 posts

204 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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drivetrain said:
If you find the subject so abhorrent and don't want to report what you believe are posts which break the rules then why bother coming on here other than to st stir and try to get threads closed and stifle debate?

You seem to think that everyone else should conform to your blinkered views, a typical leftie pov.
I came on this thread to express my surprise that AJS was still posting. Your belief that I am trying to stiffle this vital debate is your paranoid problem, not mine.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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TTwiggy said:
drivetrain said:
If you find the subject so abhorrent and don't want to report what you believe are posts which break the rules then why bother coming on here other than to st stir and try to get threads closed and stifle debate?

You seem to think that everyone else should conform to your blinkered views, a typical leftie pov.
I came on this thread to express my surprise that AJS was still posting. Your belief that I am trying to stiffle this vital debate is your paranoid problem, not mine.
Have you ever considered that it might be you who is out of touch with society at large?

TTwiggy

11,537 posts

204 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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WinstonWolf said:
Have you ever considered that it might be you who is out of touch with society at large?
Breaking news Winston: A small sub section of a motoring forum is not 'society at large'. It isn't even close.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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TTwiggy said:
WinstonWolf said:
Have you ever considered that it might be you who is out of touch with society at large?
Breaking news Winston: A small sub section of a motoring forum is not 'society at large'. It isn't even close.
You have a talent for stating the bleeding obvious, but you haven't answered the question.

TTwiggy

11,537 posts

204 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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WinstonWolf said:
TTwiggy said:
WinstonWolf said:
Have you ever considered that it might be you who is out of touch with society at large?
Breaking news Winston: A small sub section of a motoring forum is not 'society at large'. It isn't even close.
You have a talent for stating the bleeding obvious, but you haven't answered the question.
I'm pretty sure I have. I'm happy to concede that I don't fit in with the majority view on here. I deny that the majority view on here translates to wider society. You might be amazed to know that among friends and colleagues I'm generally considered to be slightly to the right of the Liberal centre.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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TTwiggy said:
WinstonWolf said:
TTwiggy said:
WinstonWolf said:
Have you ever considered that it might be you who is out of touch with society at large?
Breaking news Winston: A small sub section of a motoring forum is not 'society at large'. It isn't even close.
You have a talent for stating the bleeding obvious, but you haven't answered the question.
I'm pretty sure I have. I'm happy to concede that I don't fit in with the majority view on here. I deny that the majority view on here translates to wider society. You might be amazed to know that among friends and colleagues I'm generally considered to be slightly to the right of the Liberal centre.
At least you understand the concept of confirmation bias then...

TTwiggy

11,537 posts

204 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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WinstonWolf said:
At least you understand the concept of confirmation bias then...
Indeed. This forum abounds with it.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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danllama said:
A British police officer stationed inside every mosque in the UK?
That would work because normal every day Muslims don't do normal every day jobs like being a policeman or woman.

You could of course just put some narrow minded Brit in there instead. Not like we are short of those is it.

bitchstewie

51,204 posts

210 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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PH is not society at large. If it was Farage would be PM lest we forget the PH polls.

danllama

5,728 posts

142 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Alpinestars said:
That would work because normal every day Muslims don't do normal every day jobs like being a policeman or woman.

You could of course just put some narrow minded Brit in there instead. Not like we are short of those is it.
Don't be upset with me because I answered your question with an idea.

Where did I say it couldn't be a Muslim police officer? I only said they should be British.