Tony Martin held in relation to illegal firearms possession

Tony Martin held in relation to illegal firearms possession

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Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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La Liga said:
bsolutely. We should be able to behead 10 year olds who burgle under duress. Oh, not such a great generalisation.
WARNING! WARNING!

Stupid strawman argument Allert!

For somebody that proposes to be a PC, you really do worry me with your catastorpically flawed powers of debate.

eccles

13,728 posts

222 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Scuffers said:
La Liga said:
bsolutely. We should be able to behead 10 year olds who burgle under duress. Oh, not such a great generalisation.
WARNING! WARNING!

Stupid strawman argument Allert!

For somebody that proposes to be a PC, you really do worry me with your catastorpically flawed powers of debate.
I was missing the use of the Strawman reply, it's been used such a lot this year!

Willhire89

1,328 posts

205 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Greendubber said:
Scuffers said:
as usual, you are completely wrong.

My point is why does it need a 'planned operation' with multiple PC Plods for X days to go visit a 71 year old man and confiscate any alleged firearm(s)?

Hell, we are always being told about limited police resources and how nobody is available etc etc.
Because its a firearms job, how would you do it?

Unless you just want to send a PCSO and hope he comes quietly.....
He wasn't even at the farm - he was in Wisbech.....

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Scuffers said:
WARNING! WARNING!

Stupid strawman argument Allert!

For somebody that proposes to be a PC, you really do worry me with your catastorpically flawed powers of debate.
A strawman is arguing against something that wasn't proposed.

When someone writes, "We need a law that says we can use any and all force against someone who breaks into our houses", then the scenario I provided falls within that scope (I assume you can comprehend what 'any and all' means). Therefore I am arguing against what was proposed through the example I provided.

Try again smile

Greendubber

13,168 posts

203 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Willhire89 said:
He wasn't even at the farm - he was in Wisbech.....
It matters not where he was as it still takes a firearms command structure, firearms teams and search teams to do the job.


Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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ok let's go with another strawman, said 10 year old boy breaks into your house and confronts you is armed with handgun what do you do next?

Legacywr

12,093 posts

188 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Lock him up, and throw away the key, if this is true!

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Scuffers said:
ok let's go with another straw man said 10 year old Berkeley breaks into your house and confront you is armed with handgun what do you do next?
I didn't think you'd have an answer to my reply.

The above completely irrelevant to me proposing the suggestion of such a wide-reaching law was unworkable.

The answer is simple; it's to use the force the law allows in the circumstances.





wolves_wanderer

12,373 posts

237 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Scuffers said:
La Liga said:
bsolutely. We should be able to behead 10 year olds who burgle under duress. Oh, not such a great generalisation.
WARNING! WARNING!

Stupid strawman argument Allert!

For somebody that proposes to be a PC, you really do worry me with your catastorpically flawed powers of debate.
catastorpically rofl

Had to use copy and paste, it's like trying to write a welsh place name

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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wolves_wanderer said:
catatstorspically rofl
Yea, sorry, the trials of using a tablet!

wolves_wanderer

12,373 posts

237 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Scuffers said:
wolves_wanderer said:
catatstorspically rofl
Yea, sorry, the trials of using a tablet!
You got my first attempt biggrin

eccles

13,728 posts

222 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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wolves_wanderer said:
Scuffers said:
La Liga said:
bsolutely. We should be able to behead 10 year olds who burgle under duress. Oh, not such a great generalisation.
WARNING! WARNING!

Stupid strawman argument Allert!

For somebody that proposes to be a PC, you really do worry me with your catastorpically flawed powers of debate.
catorspically rofl
Do you realise how castoroilpicalilly stupid you look by taking the mick out of his spelling, and getting it wrong! jester

Willhire89

1,328 posts

205 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Greendubber said:
Willhire89 said:
He wasn't even at the farm - he was in Wisbech.....
It matters not where he was as it still takes a firearms command structure, firearms teams and search teams to do the job.
Of course that wasn't what you said .....you intimated it needed the infrastructure to make the arrest.

Be interesting to see if they find nothing and when he said he had another weapon in his interview he was bullstting.

Maybe you could handle that press interview?

wolves_wanderer

12,373 posts

237 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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eccles said:
wolves_wanderer said:
Scuffers said:
La Liga said:
bsolutely. We should be able to behead 10 year olds who burgle under duress. Oh, not such a great generalisation.
WARNING! WARNING!

Stupid strawman argument Allert!

For somebody that proposes to be a PC, you really do worry me with your catastorpically flawed powers of debate.
catorspically rofl
Do you realise how castoroilpicalilly stupid you look by taking the mick out of his spelling, and getting it wrong! jester
wolves_wanderer said:
Scuffers said:
wolves_wanderer said:
catatstorspically rofl
Yea, sorry, the trials of using a tablet!
You got my first attempt biggrin
Quote ninjas!

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Willhire89 said:
Be interesting to see if they find nothing and when he said he had another weapon in his interview he was bullstting.

Maybe you could handle that press interview?
It'd be a generic media statement. Not a 'press interview'. Simple, easy stuff.

'A 71 year old man was arrested for a firearms offence. No firearm was located and no further action will be taken against him', or similar.


eharding

13,676 posts

284 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Scuffers said:
Yea, sorry, the trials of using a tablet!
Doesn't explain why you habitually seem to be wearing boxing gloves when typing on said tablet, given your bizarre lexical style.



Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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eharding said:
Doesn't explain why you habitually seem to be wearing boxing gloves when typing on said tablet, given your bizarre lexical style.
Eh?

It's more to do with autocorrect vs. Dislexia.

scenario8

Original Poster:

6,558 posts

179 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Scuffers said:
eharding said:
Doesn't explain why you habitually seem to be wearing boxing gloves when typing on said tablet, given your bizarre lexical style.
Eh?

It's more to do with autocorrect vs. Dislexia.
Surprised auto correct didn't have a better stab at correcting that, too!

Greendubber

13,168 posts

203 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Willhire89 said:
Of course that wasn't what you said .....you intimated it needed the infrastructure to make the arrest.

Be interesting to see if they find nothing and when he said he had another weapon in his interview he was bullstting.

Maybe you could handle that press interview?
Incorrect as they still require the same resources for the arrest regardless of where it took place.

Willhire89

1,328 posts

205 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Greendubber said:
Willhire89 said:
Of course that wasn't what you said .....you intimated it needed the infrastructure to make the arrest.

Be interesting to see if they find nothing and when he said he had another weapon in his interview he was bullstting.

Maybe you could handle that press interview?
Incorrect as they still require the same resources for the arrest regardless of where it took place.
Of course ....

cop It still takes a firearms command structure, firearms teams and search teams to.....




...arrest a 71 y/old man in a local town. laugh