Tony Martin held in relation to illegal firearms possession
Discussion
Rovinghawk said:
If they don't tell the police about it, how can the police record it?
Well, believe it or not, drug dealers who get robbed often do call the police to say they've been robbed of their drugs! Then they clam up and refuse to say who robbed them. Yes, they are this stupid. Case in point:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2539182/Ca...
Edited by Oakey on Monday 4th January 12:30
Rovinghawk said:
La Liga said:
Following on from that, criminal victims rarely, if ever, help the police or tell them anything so there's never going to be a chance to detect the matter, yet the police will still record it.
If they don't tell the police about it, how can the police record it?They will call the police to keep them safe in the initial stages, but then refuse to give any information once they are safe and have composed themselves.
There's often violence involved so they'll require an Ambulance / medical attention. The NHS will pass it on to the police who will then attend first.
There will be offences not known to the police, but here we're discussing the ones which are known and offer the police no chance of detecting them, and what proportion of the overall figure the 'criminal on criminal' offences make up.
Oakey said:
Good example. Aggravated burglary by one set of criminals trying to steal the drugs from another and a third party report. The level of stupidity is quite exceptional, but when people are in shock and have been subject to a crime their subconscious link is to ask for the police.
bbc said:
Farmer Tony Martin who was jailed after shooting and killing a burglar in 1999 will not face any fresh firearms charges.
Norfolk Police said they arrested a 71-year-old on suspicion of firearms offences after searching a property near Wisbech on New Year's Eve.
Officers said the raid on the farmhouse at Emneth Hungate was based on "credible intelligence".
Police have said Mr Martin will face no further action.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-35558263Norfolk Police said they arrested a 71-year-old on suspicion of firearms offences after searching a property near Wisbech on New Year's Eve.
Officers said the raid on the farmhouse at Emneth Hungate was based on "credible intelligence".
Police have said Mr Martin will face no further action.
berlintaxi said:
colonel c said:
Utter waste of Norfolk's police time.
Would you feel the same if they took no action against reports of some chav on a scummy council estate having a gun?Was it necessary to arrest him? They could have searched his property without that and the negative publicity it attracted. In the end they only found a broken air weapon. So much for their "credible intelligence".
Edited by colonel c on Friday 12th February 12:44
colonel c said:
No.
Was it necessary to arrest him? They could have searched his property without that and the negative publicity it attracted. In the end they only found a broken air weapon. So much for their "credible intelligence".
There's nearly always going to be a necessity to arrest when it involves firearms to negate the risk. Wasn't the intelligence primarily him basically bragging he kept illegal firearms? Was it necessary to arrest him? They could have searched his property without that and the negative publicity it attracted. In the end they only found a broken air weapon. So much for their "credible intelligence".
colonel c said:
Utter waste of Norfolk's police time.
It is when it results in sentences like this - http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Cambridgeshire-BNP...
Peter Frenette was found guilty of acting as a firearms dealer when not registered, four counts of possessing a firearm without a certificate, two counts of possessing expanding ammunition without a certificate and failing to comply with the conditions of a shotgun certificate (a shotgun under his bed).
He didn't bother turning up in court as he refused to recognise its jurisdiction.
Two years suspended. No other punishment.
PF62 said:
colonel c said:
Utter waste of Norfolk's police time.
It is when it results in sentences like this - http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Cambridgeshire-BNP...
Peter Frenette was found guilty of acting as a firearms dealer when not registered, four counts of possessing a firearm without a certificate, two counts of possessing expanding ammunition without a certificate and failing to comply with the conditions of a shotgun certificate (a shotgun under his bed).
He didn't bother turning up in court as he refused to recognise its jurisdiction.
Two years suspended. No other punishment.
PF62 said:
colonel c said:
Utter waste of Norfolk's police time.
It is when it results in sentences like this - http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Cambridgeshire-BNP...
Peter Frenette was found guilty of acting as a firearms dealer when not registered, four counts of possessing a firearm without a certificate, two counts of possessing expanding ammunition without a certificate and failing to comply with the conditions of a shotgun certificate (a shotgun under his bed).
He didn't bother turning up in court as he refused to recognise its jurisdiction.
Two years suspended. No other punishment.
Transmitter Man said:
...that reminds me, have the police done anything about the excessive (read that as above normal) number of burglaries in the area?
Thought not.
Phil
I'm curious as to how you define normal. Thought not.
Phil
Norfolk Constabulary has the 4th lowest level of burglary in the country. The area you're talking about is West Norfolk which has lower-levels of burglaries than similar, comparable areas.
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