Tony Martin held in relation to illegal firearms possession

Tony Martin held in relation to illegal firearms possession

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Scuffers

20,887 posts

275 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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eccles said:
Scuffers said:
He probably did it knowing the police would go off on one, thus making them look stupid.
Damned if they do, damned if they don't!
Exactly.

And knowing that, you would think they would act accordingly.

eccles

13,740 posts

223 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Scuffers said:
eccles said:
Scuffers said:
He probably did it knowing the police would go off on one, thus making them look stupid.
Damned if they do, damned if they don't!
Exactly.

And knowing that, you would think they would act accordingly.
confused

Greendubber

13,222 posts

204 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Scuffers said:
Exactly.

And knowing that, you would think they would act accordingly.
Which would be how then?

Scuffers

20,887 posts

275 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Greendubber said:
Which would be how then?
By not going in "full retard"

How hard would it have been to command have a quite word with Martin?

So, now they have arrested him, committed vast resources to searching his farm, etc etc all in the full view of the press.




eccles

13,740 posts

223 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Scuffers said:
Greendubber said:
Which would be how then?
By not going in "full retard"

How hard would it have been to command have a quite word with Martin?

So, now they have arrested him, committed vast resources to searching his farm, etc etc all in the full view of the press.
The bosses have a duty of care to their officers. For every 10 blokes gobbing off about having dodgy firearms, one of them may well have. With Martins history of burglaries who's to say he hasn't set up some booby traps for good measure.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

275 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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eccles said:
The bosses have a duty of care to their officers. For every 10 blokes gobbing off about having dodgy firearms, one of them may well have. With Martins history of burglaries who's to say he hasn't set up some booby traps for good measure.
They arrested him in town, or are you suggesting he booty trapped that too?

eccles

13,740 posts

223 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Scuffers said:
eccles said:
The bosses have a duty of care to their officers. For every 10 blokes gobbing off about having dodgy firearms, one of them may well have. With Martins history of burglaries who's to say he hasn't set up some booby traps for good measure.
They arrested him in town, or are you suggesting he booty trapped that too?
Yes they arrested him in town, but all the fuss and kerfuffle was at his farmhouse.

Greendubber

13,222 posts

204 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Scuffers said:
By not going in "full retard"

How hard would it have been to command have a quite word with Martin?

So, now they have arrested him, committed vast resources to searching his farm, etc etc all in the full view of the press.
The only person going full retard is you.

A job needed doing and the resources needed were used. That isnt 'full retard' because you can appreciate or agree with the amount of staff required.

scenario8

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6,565 posts

180 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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stuartmmcfc said:
Scuffers said:
(Also, i find it amusing you call him notorious)
Surely that is exactly what he is?
Tony Martin may or may not be in possession of illegally held firearms but his possession of notoriety is a given, surely?

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Scuffers said:
So, now they have arrested him, committed vast resources to searching his farm, etc etc all in the full view of the press.
So?

The information is either acted upon or it's not. If it is then it gets done properly. Actions aren't taken with consideration to appease those who have no idea what they are talking about (people like you).



Scuffers

20,887 posts

275 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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But then you will be moaning about how you can't do the job due to budget cuts.


anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Yes, of course. Because one firearms operation (out of 13k per year) has loads to do with police finances.

You're not really capable of forming any sort of cohesive or rational argument are you? You just type the first rubbish that comes into your head. Do you not find it embarrassing you're wrong so much?

Scuffers

20,887 posts

275 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Well, I'm sure it's cost more than your salary, so maybe that means they can do without you?

Willhire89

1,329 posts

206 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Greendubber said:
A job needed doing and the resources needed were used.
Rubbish - in reality it didn't - leave him alone and let him get on with his life

If he shoots dead another burglar in his own home please be the first to moan

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Willhire89 said:
Rubbish - in reality it didn't - leave him alone and let him get on with his life.
We maintain low firearms crime because information about illegal possession is acted upon. Perhaps you like to pick and choose which (potential) illegal firearms to seize, but I prefer a consistent approach.

Scuffers said:
Well, I'm sure it's cost more than your salary, so maybe that means they can do without you?
I'm unsure if you're having a laugh at everyone else's expense or you really are as dim as your posts suggest.

Willhire89

1,329 posts

206 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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I'm content that firearms are 'planted' where needed to suit the situation and secure the necessary verdict from the coroner ......

I am also fine that a man subjected to repeated and concerted invasion of his property sorts it out and sends a message - I'd like to think I could do the same.

eccles

13,740 posts

223 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Willhire89 said:
I'm content that firearms are 'planted' where needed to suit the situation and secure the necessary verdict from the coroner ......

I am also fine that a man subjected to repeated and concerted invasion of his property sorts it out and sends a message - I'd like to think I could do the same.
He stated in a national newspaper that he had illegal firearms and you think the police should just leave him alone! Jesus!

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Willhire89 said:
I'm content that firearms are 'planted' where needed to suit the situation and secure the necessary verdict from the coroner...
You'd struggle to see them if the sun reflects off the tin foil.

Willhire89 said:
I am also fine that a man subjected to repeated and concerted invasion of his property sorts it out and sends a message - I'd like to think I could do the same.
The original matter involving Martin was certainly one which divided opinion. The law has actually changed to allow home owners to use greater force than in any other circumstances. I would still expect Martin to fall foul of it.


Willhire89

1,329 posts

206 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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eccles said:
Willhire89 said:
I'm content that firearms are 'planted' where needed to suit the situation and secure the necessary verdict from the coroner ......

I am also fine that a man subjected to repeated and concerted invasion of his property sorts it out and sends a message - I'd like to think I could do the same.
He stated in a national newspaper that he had illegal firearms and you think the police should just leave him alone! Jesus!
Yes ....

It's incredible isn't it - I'm 52 with five grandchildren and believe in the face of no-one giving a st you sort yourself out....

If I lived in Emneth and (given the history of crime) I would want (and do empathise with those who want ) to be able to look after myself and not rely on anyone else

AJL308

6,390 posts

157 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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La Liga said:
he original matter involving Martin was certainly one which divided opinion. The law has actually changed to allow home owners to use greater force than in any other circumstances. I would still expect Martin to fall foul of it.
The law hasn't changed. There was lots of talk of it but nothing of significance has ever nbeen enacted.