Can we talk about Germany for a bit?

[Pony]

I haven't got the time or inclination to blast the whole list through google translate but yes it does seem very much to be recently imported crime.

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[JMGS4]

irocfan said:

to be fair though - how many of those are down to II's rather than 'normal' crime?

Stats just out for violent crime in Freiburg (the most violent city in BadenWürttemberg) 4700 events 47% of which caused by immigrants!

[Sam All]

JMGS4 said:

irocfan said:

to be fair though - how many of those are down to II's rather than 'normal' crime?

Stats just out for violent crime in Freiburg (the most violent city in BadenWürttemberg) 4700 events 47% of which caused by immigrants!

Do you have a link to the stats? Certainly sounds horrific, and unhelpful to genuine refugees.

[irocfan]

JMGS4 said:

irocfan said:

to be fair though - how many of those are down to II's rather than 'normal' crime?

Stats just out for violent crime in Freiburg (the most violent city in BadenWürttemberg) 4700 events 47% of which caused by immigrants!

wow! I suspect that in most places a crime spike of 10% would have them worried... nearly 50% is staggering

[JMGS4]

Some crime stats here are up by 98% by IIs. Following the actual report by the Police (which has been erroneously quoted by the Badische Zeitung, from which I was originally quoting!)
http://www.presseportal.de/blaulicht/pm/110970/329...

Throws a slightly different light but still some extremely high stats with IIs!!!

[Bring on the clowns]

Reading the depressing stuff like the above has me thinking that, if true, apart from women, the elderly and young children - you know, the ones who are actually children rather than 20 something - the doors need to be/should have been bolted. Stay in, and receive help in, the camps near to Syria, (the west) help fund them and then try, if ever possible, to resettle the displaced. Basically like the UK govt policy that has all the lefty liberal sleeve-heart wearers railing. These bds have no place being allowed into another people's country with the level of gratitude and civil behaviour they show. Or don't.

[dudleybloke]

German should be spoken inside mosques.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36034916

[irocfan]

dudleybloke said:

German should be spoken inside mosques.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36034916

seems fair enough to me

[danllama]

So basically the wker Erdogan thinks that because he can control the media in Turkey he can also decide what is shown on European media. Can't somebody tell this little pleb to fk off?

[Sam All]

danllama said:

So basically the wker Erdogan thinks that because he can control the media in Turkey he can also decide what is shown on European media. Can't somebody tell this little pleb to fk off?

He has been rodgering the EU good and proper - and Merkel did leave everything wide open.

Edited by Sam All on Wednesday 13th April 18:13

[Sam All]

irocfan said:

dudleybloke said:

German should be spoken inside mosques.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36034916

seems fair enough to me

Agreed, but will it pick up traction here? CMD has been trying.

[Pesty]

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/04/13/german-arm...

[Sam All]

Pesty said:

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/04/13/german-arm...

I expect tonight's Channel 4 programme at 10 will get some coverage in Germany tomorrow.

[Sam All]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-36016708

[Twin2]

irocfan said:

wow! I suspect that in most places a crime spike of 10% would have them worried... nearly 50% is staggering

I spent almost every weekend of July-December 16 in Freiburg so have first hand experience of this.

Around the train/bus station there were lots of Afghan/African men hanging around doing nothing. My girlfriend worked right next to there and no one would let her leave the office alone because of the "rapist park", as it was called, across the street. All of the locals, when they talked about it were genuinely scared of the influx of immigrants considering what happened to Sweden.

Even my colleagues were dead against it, even though we were in the middle of the black forest and there were next to no asylum seekers. The Germans I worked with didn't like the idea of having to pay for it all, considering their high tax rate already. I also worked with a number of Iranian PhD students and Professors, all of whom had come for a better life and to provide themselves with opportunity, but were of the opinion that they were contributing to Germany's advanced engineering sector, buying houses, learning and teaching, whereas new immigrants would merely be a drain on society for the foreseeable future.

[danllama]

Sam All said:

I expect tonight's Channel 4 programme at 10 will get some coverage in Germany tomorrow.

It's pretty damning so far, as expected really.

Is there a thread running on it somewhere?

A quarter of British Muslims wish for Sharia law to replace British law.

[Sam All]

danllama said:

It's pretty damning so far, as expected really.

Is there a thread running on it somewhere?

A quarter of British Muslims wish for Sharia law to replace British law.

No doubt someone will start it tomorrow, and it will get closed a few days later. There is nothing to see here.

CMD is on the case, but probably too little too late.

[dudleybloke]

Filthy fkers.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3559766/Sh...

[AJS-]

To tie this in with the referendum, Erdogan's Turkey seems a lot more able to influence the EU from without than Cameron or any other British PM has managed from within.

[danllama]

Indeed, AJS. You have to laugh or you'll cry.

I wonder how we can manipulate them once we're out...