Can we talk about Germany for a bit?

Can we talk about Germany for a bit?

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Murph7355

37,708 posts

256 months

Thursday 16th February 2017
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SKP555 said:
Trabi601 said:
History being repeated, only with a different minority group this time.
Which piece of history do you have in mind?
I know, I know. Me me.

The Spanish Inquisition.

Am I right. Am I? AM I?

alfie2244

11,292 posts

188 months

Thursday 16th February 2017
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Murph7355 said:
SKP555 said:
Trabi601 said:
History being repeated, only with a different minority group this time.
Which piece of history do you have in mind?
I know, I know. Me me.

The Spanish Inquisition.

Am I right. Am I? AM I?
You didn't put your hand up 1st..naughty step for you my lad.

SKP555

1,114 posts

126 months

Thursday 16th February 2017
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Wasn't the Spanish Inquisition the same minority?

irocfan

40,425 posts

190 months

Thursday 16th February 2017
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SKP555 said:
Wasn't the Spanish Inquisition the same minority?
IIRC the Jews weren't exactly flavour of the month with the S.I.

Actually the Jews have been put upon a fair bit over the last 2000 odd years

SKP555

1,114 posts

126 months

Thursday 16th February 2017
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irocfan said:
SKP555 said:
Wasn't the Spanish Inquisition the same minority?
IIRC the Jews weren't exactly flavour of the month with the S.I.

Actually the Jews have been put upon a fair bit over the last 2000 odd years
Indeed. There seems to be the crackpot idea around that letting in millions of Muslims will somehow atone for this while enforcing immigration laws compounds it. I don't quite follow the logic myself.

Northern Munkee

5,354 posts

200 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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Popped up on Twitter.

Merkel wants Zuckerberg to remove posts from FB.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-09-26...

Trabi601

4,865 posts

95 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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Northern Munkee said:
Popped up on Twitter.

Merkel wants Zuckerberg to remove posts from FB.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-09-26...
It's not just Merkel and it's something Zuckerberg is very aware of - Facebook is full of extremist hatred from all sides, there's definitely a case for introducing controls.

Murph7355

37,708 posts

256 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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SKP555 said:
Wasn't the Spanish Inquisition the same minority?
Not more people set against Yorkshiremen?

Trabi601 said:
It's not just Merkel and it's something Zuckerberg is very aware of - Facebook is full of extremist hatred from all sides, there's definitely a case for introducing controls.
Moderating that would make PH seem like a walk in the park! biggrin

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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Trabi601 said:
History being repeated, only with a different minority group this time.
The jews were picked on for no reason and murdered, the current muslim racism was brought on somewhat by themselves with the running people over in trucks and shooting people in the Bataclan etc and no one is rounding up muslims to put in a concentration camps to murder, so history isn't repeating itself as far as I can see.
I abhor all racism.

Trabi601

4,865 posts

95 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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Raygun said:
Trabi601 said:
History being repeated, only with a different minority group this time.
The jews were picked on for no reason and murdered, the current muslim racism was brought on somewhat by themselves with the running people over in trucks and shooting people in the Bataclan etc and no one is rounding up muslims to put in a concentration camps to murder, so history isn't repeating itself as far as I can see.
I abhor all racism.
Blaming and alienating a whole religious group / race for the crimes of a few, to the extent that nearly half the population see them as such a threat they don't want any more allowed into the country. We may not have a government willing to slaughter millions, but this is how it starts - just look at what's happening on the other side of the Atlantic. Wants an immigration ban, telling everyone the media isn't to be trusted, trying to re-write the news to only show the regime as positive. There are many, many similarities between the 1930s and today.

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

244 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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For good or ill, people form opinions; demonising those opinions may, I guess, be a valid move. Proscribing them in certain fora however will not make them go away, it will merely mean that they congregate in areas that may be less easy to monitor. Just an observation.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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Trabi601 said:
Blaming and alienating a whole religious group / race for the crimes of a few, to the extent that nearly half the population see them as such a threat they don't want any more allowed into the country.
I agree but when the terrorist atrocities started happening there was always going to be a backlash, racist crawling out of everywhere seizing the moment.

Hugh Jarse

3,503 posts

205 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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All the conflict areas in the world are either in or at the periphery of the islamic world.
Every muslim country has a burgeoning population pyramid creating internal tensions.
People have their country and their zone of responsibility, if it is failing it is up to them to fix it.
Syria has a civil war due to over population which went from 4 million to 22 million in 2 generations, soon to be fifty million when those people grow up.

Im not against brown people, different launguages, peoples, or ways to make tea.
Good luck to them fixing their problems.
Im very much against parallel societies and local populations bred out of their towns which is happening across England. I care about the world and the environment, the blase attitude of the globalists has been called out and is dying on its arse in Europe and the western world. Despite all the media lying people have worked it out.

But keep shouting racist and watch every scrap of grass be covered in high birth rate cultures because borders were not maintained. Keep shouting racist and watch every town with sizeable Pakistani muslim population create child rape gangs be ignored for fifteen long years where thousands of childrens lives were ruined and raped a million times. Oh that already happened because people shouted racist. The finger pointers are and have been the child gang rape enablers. Silence from the media for fifteeen years. WTF do they think their role in society is?
Only a failed loser society fails to protect its children.
fk Britain coming second in the Olympics, lets live in a country where the media dont hide the truth and children are protected.

If Germany, Europe et al, wants to go down that path last time I checked we had free speech and im allowed to post against it. But apparently not according to Merkel censoring where only the Orwellian approved opinions are correct.
Anyone who is against free speech is sick. Merkel is sick in the head.

Edited by Hugh Jarse on Saturday 18th February 00:32

rallycross

12,790 posts

237 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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Hugh Jarse said:
All the conflict areas in the world are either in or at the periphery of the islamic world.
Every muslim country has a burgeoning population pyramid creating internal tensions.
People have their country and their zone of responsibility, if it is failing it is up to them to fix it.
Syria has a civil war due to over population which went from 4 million to 22 million in 2 generations, soon to be fifty million when those people grow up.

Im not against brown people, different launguages, peoples, or ways to make tea.
Good luck to them fixing their problems.
Im very much against parallel societies and local populations bred out of their towns which is happening across England. I care about the world and the environment, the blase attitude of the globalists has been called out and is dying on its arse in Europe and the western world. Despite all the media lying people have worked it out.

But keep shouting racist and watch every scrap of grass be covered in high birth rate cultures because borders were not maintained. Keep shouting racist and watch every town with sizeable Pakistani muslim population create child rape gangs be ignored for fifteen long years where thousands of childrens lives were ruined and raped a million times. Oh that already happened because people shouted racist. The finger pointers are and have been the child gang rape enablers. Silence from the media for fifteeen years. WTF do they think their role in society is?
Only a failed loser society fails to protect its children.
fk Britain coming second in the Olympics, lets live in a country where the media dont hide the truth and children are protected.

If Germany, Europe et al, wants to go down that path last time I checked we had free speech and im allowed to post against it. But apparently not according to Merkel censoring where only the Orwellian approved opinions are correct.
Anyone who is against free speech is sick. Merkel is sick in the head.

Edited by Hugh Jarse on Saturday 18th February 00:32
A lot of people would agree but most are afraid to say anything - those people will regret they never said a word when they look around and find their old world has gone replaced by a mess.

wisbech

2,973 posts

121 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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Hugh Jarse said:
All the conflict areas in the world are either in or at the periphery of the islamic world.
Well, not all. Mexico (drug fueled)/ Ukraine/ Congo.

JagLover

42,395 posts

235 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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Trabi601 said:
Blaming and alienating a whole religious group / race for the crimes of a few, to the extent that nearly half the population see them as such a threat they don't want any more allowed into the country. We may not have a government willing to slaughter millions, but this is how it starts - just look at what's happening on the other side of the Atlantic. Wants an immigration ban, telling everyone the media isn't to be trusted, trying to re-write the news to only show the regime as positive. There are many, many similarities between the 1930s and today.
Immigration is not a right it is a privilege and to grant that privilege the destination country has every right to expect the immigrant to contribute both socially and economically.

This does not justify a blanket ban on Muslim immigration (and neither had Trump put in place such a ban) but it does call for a far more intelligent immigration policy than has been followed thus far.

Hugh Jarse

3,503 posts

205 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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wisbech said:
Hugh Jarse said:
All the conflict areas in the world are either in or at the periphery of the islamic world.
Well, not all. Mexico (drug fueled)/ Ukraine/ Congo.
Fair point, not all.

CarreraLightweightRacing

2,011 posts

209 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Anyone any details on this latest Heidelberg incident?

rscott

14,753 posts

191 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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CarreraLightweightRacing said:
Anyone any details on this latest Heidelberg incident?
Reports seem to all say someone rented a car, then drove it into pedestrians and threatened passers by with a knife. He was then shot and wounded by police. No info on background of perpetrator published yet, but police don't think terrorist related.

Video of the police takedown https://youtu.be/UGdwbw0lv9I

Edited to add - Reuters quotes a source as it being a local German responsible. http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/idUKKBN1640O2...

Edited by rscott on Saturday 25th February 19:24

PorkInsider

5,888 posts

141 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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BBC reporting that he wasn't a terrorist. Source: local police.