Can we talk about Germany for a bit?
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pim said:
Germany will move on Hugh.It took ten years to sort East Germany out to some reasonable standard which the West Germans payed for.
A few Immigrants won't stifle their progress whatever you may think laughing.
A few immigrants A few Immigrants won't stifle their progress whatever you may think laughing.
Is that why Merkel is so keen to deport thousands that she initially invited in?
https://www.rt.com/news/362924-merkel-rejected-mig...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ref...
pim said:
Germany will move on Hugh.It took ten years to sort East Germany out to some reasonable standard which the West Germans payed for.
A few Immigrants won't stifle their progress whatever you may think laughing.
There is a bit of a difference there though the main one being that there East Germans were still, when all was said and done, German and (more importantly) wanted to fully integrate.A few Immigrants won't stifle their progress whatever you may think laughing.
A certain percentage of the influx has NOTHING in common with the native population nor a desire integrate....
scherzkeks said:
In other words, the places immigrants flocked to (major cities) are racially and culturally diverse, and after several generations, are fully integrated in terms of the general criteria by which we define ourselves as Americans.
And in places where immigrants did not tend to go, we have insular pockets. Logic stands to reason that were these areas to experience an influx of immigrants, with time, those imigrants would integrate and the locations would become both multicultural and integrated, like many of our large and medium-sized cities. And really no different than here in Germany either.
You obviously haven't been to Southall, Slough, Hayes, several areas of Birminghsm and indeed several other places in the UK then. Integrated? Don't make me laugh.And in places where immigrants did not tend to go, we have insular pockets. Logic stands to reason that were these areas to experience an influx of immigrants, with time, those imigrants would integrate and the locations would become both multicultural and integrated, like many of our large and medium-sized cities. And really no different than here in Germany either.
Ahbefive said:
scherzkeks said:
In other words, the places immigrants flocked to (major cities) are racially and culturally diverse, and after several generations, are fully integrated in terms of the general criteria by which we define ourselves as Americans.
And in places where immigrants did not tend to go, we have insular pockets. Logic stands to reason that were these areas to experience an influx of immigrants, with time, those imigrants would integrate and the locations would become both multicultural and integrated, like many of our large and medium-sized cities. And really no different than here in Germany either.
You obviously haven't been to Southall, Slough, Hayes, several areas of Birminghsm and indeed several other places in the UK then. Integrated? Don't make me laugh.And in places where immigrants did not tend to go, we have insular pockets. Logic stands to reason that were these areas to experience an influx of immigrants, with time, those imigrants would integrate and the locations would become both multicultural and integrated, like many of our large and medium-sized cities. And really no different than here in Germany either.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/enclaves-of-isla...
Dame Louise Casey's report - https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-cas...
FourWheelDrift said:
In areas of Bradford, Dewsbury and Blackburn some Muslims lead such separate lives that they believe Britain is an Islamic country where the majority of people share their faith. Complete integration failure.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/enclaves-of-isla...
Dame Louise Casey's report - https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-cas...
I don't think that moslem inbreeding is helping much with that eitherhttp://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/enclaves-of-isla...
Dame Louise Casey's report - https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-cas...
Digga said:
scherzkeks said:
In other words, the places immigrants flocked to (major cities) are racially and culturally diverse, and after several generations, are fully integrated in terms of the general criteria by which we define ourselves as Americans.
And in places where immigrants did not tend to go, we have insular pockets. Logic stands to reason that were these areas to experience an influx of immigrants, with time, those imigrants would integrate and the locations would become both multicultural and integrated, like many of our large and medium-sized cities. And really no different than here in Germany either.
Not exactly. There are highly integrated places where everyone gels and gets along, and then there are places where there's diversity without integration - ghettos.And in places where immigrants did not tend to go, we have insular pockets. Logic stands to reason that were these areas to experience an influx of immigrants, with time, those imigrants would integrate and the locations would become both multicultural and integrated, like many of our large and medium-sized cities. And really no different than here in Germany either.
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http://www.thelocal.de/20161216/12-year-old-attemp...
Cheeky scamp!
Cheeky scamp!
Edited by dudleybloke on Friday 16th December 21:51
scherzkeks said:
In other words, the places immigrants flocked to (major cities) are racially and culturally diverse, and after several generations, are fully integrated in terms of the general criteria by which we define ourselves as Americans.
And in places where immigrants did not tend to go, we have insular pockets. Logic stands to reason that were these areas to experience an influx of immigrants, with time, those imigrants would integrate and the locations would become both multicultural and integrated, like many of our large and medium-sized cities. And really no different than here in Germany either.
You're completely deluded.And in places where immigrants did not tend to go, we have insular pockets. Logic stands to reason that were these areas to experience an influx of immigrants, with time, those imigrants would integrate and the locations would become both multicultural and integrated, like many of our large and medium-sized cities. And really no different than here in Germany either.
I think integration is much more than just chatting to somebody in the supermarket queue.
With very few exceptions Muslims do not marry outside of their faith. If you are a young Muslim now all of your relatives will be Muslim, there is a very high likely hood that this will still be true for that person in 30 years time. That is not integration.
With very few exceptions Muslims do not marry outside of their faith. If you are a young Muslim now all of your relatives will be Muslim, there is a very high likely hood that this will still be true for that person in 30 years time. That is not integration.
br d said:
I think integration is much more than just chatting to somebody in the supermarket queue.
With very few exceptions Muslims do not marry outside of their faith. If you are a young Muslim now all of your relatives will be Muslim, there is a very high likely hood that this will still be true for that person in 30 years time. That is not integration.
Is this a joke? So because all of your family members are Muslim, you are not integrated. I have heard some sWith very few exceptions Muslims do not marry outside of their faith. If you are a young Muslim now all of your relatives will be Muslim, there is a very high likely hood that this will still be true for that person in 30 years time. That is not integration.
te on here but this takes the biscuit.SpeckledJim said:
But what use is it if some of the basic tenets are great and some are awful.
You still have to use some externally-acquired morality to tell one from the other.
1. Do not have any other god before God.You still have to use some externally-acquired morality to tell one from the other.
2. Do not make yourself an idol.
3. Do not take the Lord's name in vain.
4. Honor thy Father and thy Mother
5. Keep the sabbath day holy
6. Do not murder.
7. Do not commit adultery.
8. Do not steal.
9. Do not testify false witness against your neighbour.
10. Do not covet.
Which of these do you fundamentally disagree with?
Which one is "awful"?
I'd really be interested in your answer...
rovermorris999 said:
SpeckledJim said:
Yeah, the Christians are determined to see women treated as equals. If only secular laws would stop slowing their progress down.
Typical PH. I never mentioned Christians as being wonderful. Merely that most of the basic tenets, not killing, stealing etc, are not bad rules by which to live. That's all.The people championing secularism would like to pretend there is no difference between genders including a dozen other ones they've dreamt up.
clio007 said:
br d said:
I think integration is much more than just chatting to somebody in the supermarket queue.
With very few exceptions Muslims do not marry outside of their faith. If you are a young Muslim now all of your relatives will be Muslim, there is a very high likely hood that this will still be true for that person in 30 years time. That is not integration.
Is this a joke? So because all of your family members are Muslim, you are not integrated. I have heard some sWith very few exceptions Muslims do not marry outside of their faith. If you are a young Muslim now all of your relatives will be Muslim, there is a very high likely hood that this will still be true for that person in 30 years time. That is not integration.
te on here but this takes the biscuit.Esseesse said:
clio007 said:
br d said:
I think integration is much more than just chatting to somebody in the supermarket queue.
With very few exceptions Muslims do not marry outside of their faith. If you are a young Muslim now all of your relatives will be Muslim, there is a very high likely hood that this will still be true for that person in 30 years time. That is not integration.
Is this a joke? So because all of your family members are Muslim, you are not integrated. I have heard some sWith very few exceptions Muslims do not marry outside of their faith. If you are a young Muslim now all of your relatives will be Muslim, there is a very high likely hood that this will still be true for that person in 30 years time. That is not integration.
te on here but this takes the biscuit.If that's the criteria for integration, then you can point at pretty much EVERY religion.
"Lorry drives into Christmas market in Berlin, with several people injured, media reports say"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38373867
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38373867
BlackLabel said:
"Lorry drives into Christmas market in Berlin, with several people injured, media reports say"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38373867
Sky News is just reporting that one person has been killed. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38373867
BlackLabel said:
"Lorry drives into Christmas market in Berlin, with several people injured, media reports say"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38373867
I wonder if that's why those smiling armed cops where in Manchester the other week? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38373867
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