Can we talk about Germany for a bit?

[Pesty]

This guy is a moderate until he isn't any more just like the truck driver was a moderate until he wasn't.

All fun and games.

[Oakey]

Who is that?

[Pesty]

Just somebody having a laugh at the scene of a terrorist attack. Like you do.

[Northern Munkee]

Hugo a Gogo said:

Northern Munkee said:

In another news, remember the woman who was kicked from behind walking down the stairs in the underground?

Perp arrested, not German.... another shining example of the success of the EU project, and it's free movement of "workers"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/19/susp...

seriously wtf difference does it make where the guy came from? If he'd kicked a woman down the stairs in Sofia that would've been fine?

if he'd been from Munich it wouldn't be so bad?

But he wasn't from Munich, he was from Varna, maybe I missed the drunk, petty criminal from Munich kicking the defenceless woman down the stairs videos, so I won't play your what if game. But I get it though this is what Germany/EU needs cheap, drunk, labourer and pot washers.

[Hugo a Gogo]

so if he kicked a woman down the stairs in Varna?

[rscott]

Pesty said:

Just somebody having a laugh at the scene of a terrorist attack. Like you do.

He's on his phone. Who knows what he's saying- he could be talking to IS telling them how well it's gone, or to a friend who was at the market, but survived?

Would you have posted that screen capture if he was a blond haired white male?

[del mar]

Northern Munkee said:

Hugo a Gogo said:

Northern Munkee said:

In another news, remember the woman who was kicked from behind walking down the stairs in the underground?

Perp arrested, not German.... another shining example of the success of the EU project, and it's free movement of "workers"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/19/susp...

seriously wtf difference does it make where the guy came from? If he'd kicked a woman down the stairs in Sofia that would've been fine?

if he'd been from Munich it wouldn't be so bad?

But he wasn't from Munich, he was from Varna, maybe I missed the drunk, petty criminal from Munich kicking the defenceless woman down the stairs videos, so I won't play your what if game. But I get it though this is what Germany/EU needs cheap, drunk, labourer and pot washers.

That is the whole problem with this though.

I am a rapist and child killer and have very negative views on women, German women and their children stood at Train Stations with banners saying I was welcome - thank you very much. The far right rise up against this and they are the scum of the earth, but not me the rapist and child killer ???

Germany has let over a Million people into their country and they know nothing about them at all.

But as there are German criminals, that seems to be some perverse logic for bringing in others !!

The German People wanted this, the German people have got this, they are happy with events like this in Berlin so why are we debating this ?

[Hugo a Gogo]

so Bulgarians are also now rapists and child killers?

or just anyone who crosses a border becomes a rapist/child killer?

I'm an EU migrant too, should my kids be taken off me maybe? sent back where I come from?

Can I go to England or just Scotland?

Edited by Hugo a Gogo on Tuesday 20th December 11:29

[hyphen]

Hugo a Gogo said:

seriously wtf difference does it make where the guy came from?

It doesn't, unless (as has been the case many times) they had previous convictions in their own country and should not have been allowed in if common-sense had prevailed over EU idealism.

[lemmingjames]

Hugo a Gogo said:

so Bulgarians are also now rapists and child killers?

or just anyone who crosses a border becomes a rapist/child killer?

I'm an EU migrant too, should my kids be taken off me maybe? sent back where I come from?

Can I go to England or just Scotland?

Edited by Hugo a Gogo on Tuesday 20th December 11:29

I think you need to reread what the man said and then reread it in a non-emotional way

[Digga]

You can run, but you can't hide the elephant in the room.

[FourWheelDrift]

Hugo a Gogo said:

so Bulgarians are also now rapists and child killers?

or just anyone who crosses a border becomes a rapist/child killer?

I'm an EU migrant too, should my kids be taken off me maybe? sent back where I come from?

Can I go to England or just Scotland?

Edited by Hugo a Gogo on Tuesday 20th December 11:29

Dont be hysterical and stop being naive.

[Hugo a Gogo]

lemmingjames said:

Hugo a Gogo said:

so Bulgarians are also now rapists and child killers?

or just anyone who crosses a border becomes a rapist/child killer?

I'm an EU migrant too, should my kids be taken off me maybe? sent back where I come from?

Can I go to England or just Scotland?

Edited by Hugo a Gogo on Tuesday 20th December 11:29

I think you need to reread what the man said and then reread it in a non-emotional way

OK, I've reread it twice

what do the child killers and rapists have to do with this story? Because the scumbag was born in another country/state/region/town, he's part of the barbaric horde at the gates of civilisation?

and I'm the one being hysterical

(and by the way, over 4 million EU migrants live in Germany)

[johnxjsc1985]

Digga said:

You can run, but you can't hide the elephant in the room.

I don't think our Political leaders know what to do it seems that it requires some bold and brave thinking.
The position of not wanting to upset anyone is part of the issue. Meanwhile I suspect a lot of Political leaders are privately thinking thank goodness it wasn't us because nobody knows with any certainty where the next Terrorist attack will be.

[del mar]

Hugo a Gogo said:

so Bulgarians are also now rapists and child killers?

or just anyone who crosses a border becomes a rapist/child killer?

I'm an EU migrant too, should my kids be taken off me maybe? sent back where I come from?

Can I go to England or just Scotland?

Edited by Hugo a Gogo on Tuesday 20th December 11:29

You have missed the point, taken it out of context.

Germany has taken in 1 million people that they know absolutely nothing about, some will be good and maybe a benefit to wider German society, some will not.

Why take the risk ?

It was not a dig at Bulgarians.

[dandarez]

Hugo a Gogo said:

so if he kicked a woman down the stairs in Varna?

You miss the point, in fact, in your case it's blunt!

The sharp point is he most probably has!

Or perhaps you think it's his first time?

The scum is well-known to Bulgarian law enforcement, has a lengthy criminal record, including multiple convictions for robbery, theft and hooliganism etc. In other words he's low life scum, but thanks to Merkel's policy he was let in to Germany because they need low life to wash pots.

I'm assuming you have watched the video (although today one should never assume anything) - then just, if you can, imagine that girl is a relative of yours, or worse your daughter or wife and come back and post the same to suit your own agenda.

      

[Digga]

del mar said:

Germany has taken in 1 million people that they know absolutely nothing about...

It is not only Germany, and this, in a nutshell is the crux of the problem.

All the happy-clappy twits (note I'm not mentioning left wing, because most of the right of centre parties in Europe were just as blindly, moronically culpable) thought we'd all be one nice, big happy kibbutz.

[Hugo a Gogo]

del mar said:

You have missed the point, taken it out of context.

Germany has taken in 1 million people that they know absolutely nothing about, some will be good and maybe a benefit to wider German society, some will not.

Why take the risk ?

It was not a dig at Bulgarians.

this point, for what it's worth, why add it to a comment about the Bulgarian scumbag?

is the 'million people' referring to the recent wave of migrants/asylum seekers? cos he's not one of them

there are 4 million EU migrants, what should they know about them? what do they know about anyone? I've been here 20 years, what do they know about me?

dandarez said:

Hugo a Gogo said:

so if he kicked a woman down the stairs in Varna?

You miss the point, in fact, in your case it's blunt!

The sharp point is he most probably has!

Or perhaps you think it's his first time?

The scum is well-known to Bulgarian law enforcement, has a lengthy criminal record, including multiple convictions for robbery, theft and hooliganism etc. In other words he's low life scum, but thanks to Merkel's policy he was let in to Germany because they need low life to wash pots.

I'm assuming you have watched the video (although today one should never assume anything) - then just, if you can, imagine that girl is a relative of yours, or worse your daughter or wife and come back and post the same to suit your own agenda.

      

thanks to Merkel's policy?
she didn't bring Germany into the EU

so what's the answer? life in prison for all violent crimes? I'd go for that - otherwise he was still free to do it in Varna instead of Berlin, wasn't he?
so imagine it was your wife or daughter in Varna or Sofia for a weekend?

[del mar]

Hugo a Gogo said:

del mar said:

You have missed the point, taken it out of context.

Germany has taken in 1 million people that they know absolutely nothing about, some will be good and maybe a benefit to wider German society, some will not.

Why take the risk ?

It was not a dig at Bulgarians.

this point, for what it's worth, why add it to a comment about the Bulgarian scumbag?

is the 'million people' referring to the recent wave of migrants/asylum seekers? cos he's not one of them

there are 4 million EU migrants, what should they know about them? what do they know about anyone? I've been here 20 years, what do they know about me?

What are we even discussing here then, Germans appear to have no issue with what has just happened and no drive to do anything about it. Let more in !

[Hugo a Gogo]

del mar said:

Hugo a Gogo said:

del mar said:

You have missed the point, taken it out of context.

Germany has taken in 1 million people that they know absolutely nothing about, some will be good and maybe a benefit to wider German society, some will not.

Why take the risk ?

It was not a dig at Bulgarians.

this point, for what it's worth, why add it to a comment about the Bulgarian scumbag?

is the 'million people' referring to the recent wave of migrants/asylum seekers? cos he's not one of them

there are 4 million EU migrants, what should they know about them? what do they know about anyone? I've been here 20 years, what do they know about me?

What are we even discussing here then, Germans appear to have no issue with what has just happened and no drive to do anything about it. Let more in !

what are you talking about then, close the EU borders, scrap Schengen, etc? over this mindless thug action, as horrible as it was

and then next week a Dortmund hooligan kicks another woman in Berlin, close the state borders! then someone from Neukölln kicks a woman from Schöneberg...

how secure are you prepared to make it?