Brexit Poll 1/2/16
Poll: Brexit Poll 1/2/16
Total Members Polled: 1469
Discussion
DrDeAtH said:
If the UK leaves the EU, Ireland won't be far behind.. their economy is strongly linked with the UK, so would be foolish to stay in.
Other states may follow..
A lot of people don't realise the strength of the ties between the two, but the Irish government have a habit of doing exactly the opposite of what is in the interest of the country.Other states may follow..
Right now, Ireland on paper is looking like the good times are back. As you say, this is largely due to strong trade links with the UK and America. Of course the party line is that the EU plan is working as intended and "we told you so!"
Willy Nilly said:
The idea of the EU is a good one, but it is in desperate need of reform. If we vote to stay in it will give the people that run the EU a mandate to carry on as before. I think we should stay in, subject to much better terms for us (or just our representatives doing a better job), but am leaning towards leaving.
Those 'better' terms?Last night... (Tusk) 'No deal'.
Tomorrow lunchtime... Cameron will do his Chamberlain moment, waiving a bit of paper: 'I have a deal!'
'I have a dream' (where have I heard that before?) will be nearer the mark.
OUT! OUT! OUT!
I haven't decided yet. If I lived in England, Wales or N. Ireland I would vote to leave. As a Scot living in Scotland I really don't want to see the breakup of the UK which I think may happen in Scotland votes to stay in the EU and rUK votes to leave. The SNP will just see it as an excuse to try and force another independence referendum.
s2art said:
Bradgate said:
colonel c said:
Get the f
k out. What have we got to lose?
The single market? Employment protection legislation? The right to lie & work wherever you wish in the EU? k out. What have we got to lose?What has the EU ever done for us?
Employment protection? Why do you think we need the EU for that?
Live and work in Europe? People were doing that long before the EU. If you have suitable skills then apply for a work permit.
The EU expanded far to rapidly for it's own good. I sincerely believe it will all end in tears, or worse. The UK will be better off out of it before that happens.
skyrover said:
The UK is the most powerful country in Europe and wields the biggest global stick.
Without the UK, the EU loses it's teeth and I would imagine will collapse entirely in it's current form.
define 'powerful'... IIRC the French have got better equipment for their armed forces (no comment on their personnel as I honestly don't know), the Germans have a better economy...Without the UK, the EU loses it's teeth and I would imagine will collapse entirely in it's current form.
irocfan said:
skyrover said:
The UK is the most powerful country in Europe and wields the biggest global stick.
Without the UK, the EU loses it's teeth and I would imagine will collapse entirely in it's current form.
define 'powerful'... IIRC the French have got better equipment for their armed forces (no comment on their personnel as I honestly don't know), the Germans have a better economy...Without the UK, the EU loses it's teeth and I would imagine will collapse entirely in it's current form.
Without the UK in the mix the EU will have to look for a new equilibrium, and because we're so far to the right of must of Europe on a lot of issues it looks like Europe would lurch to the left into a more statist form.
Funkycoldribena said:
Bradgate said:
Stay.
I work in aviation, so I'm hardly going to vote to leave our largest market....
I never realised there were plans for a 35000 ft wall...I work in aviation, so I'm hardly going to vote to leave our largest market....
TX.
Terminator X said:
Funkycoldribena said:
Bradgate said:
Stay.
I work in aviation, so I'm hardly going to vote to leave our largest market....
I never realised there were plans for a 35000 ft wall...I work in aviation, so I'm hardly going to vote to leave our largest market....
TX.
I simply don't get this crazy talk of if we pull out, suddenly nobody can visit EU countries or go on holiday there any more?
Or that your mobile phone won't work, or they won't take your credit/cash cards, etc etc.
I think that people are so impatient that they don't want to wait 30 minutes to get their passport checked. The idea that waiting 1/2 an hour during the course of a 1 or 2 week holiday should be used as a reason to vote for something as important as this is mind-blowing - the fact that some people might vote on this basis is.... well words fail me 
irocfan said:
I think that people are so impatient that they don't want to wait 30 minutes to get their passport checked. The idea that waiting 1/2 an hour during the course of a 1 or 2 week holiday should be used as a reason to vote for something as important as this is mind-blowing - the fact that some people might vote on this basis is.... well words fail me
I would argue 100% the opposite.at the moment, you arrive at Heathrow, us brits are stuck in the same queue with all EU passport holders, if that changes so they have to use the 'foreigner' channels, then great, less queue's for us!
Boss of Hitachi Rail says they would remain in UK regardless of Brexit: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/12132...
irocfan said:
I think that people are so impatient that they don't want to wait 30 minutes to get their passport checked. The idea that waiting 1/2 an hour during the course of a 1 or 2 week holiday should be used as a reason to vote for something as important as this is mind-blowing - the fact that some people might vote on this basis is.... well words fail me
I don't believe that. I'm in the middle of a three week trip around Indo China and not had any delays at any of the airports. Same thing last year in Australia. You still have to pass through immigration in eu countries which takes just as long.
Came into Vietnam last week with no visa. Was asked if I had one at immigration, said no and was waved through without any further question.
IME collecting your bags is the main hold up anywhere. Especially coming home.
Will this be a repeat of the Scottish/Quebec/whoever referendum.
Leave campaign talks about being a proud nation, self determination etc.
Stay campaign talks about being better together and uncertainty.
Campaign looks like a leave win
Government and big business step in at the last minute with stories about business leaving the UK and various other horror stories.
Silent majority and old people all vote to stay based on not wanting to take a risk that might influence their pension and house prices.
Leave campaign talks about being a proud nation, self determination etc.
Stay campaign talks about being better together and uncertainty.
Campaign looks like a leave win
Government and big business step in at the last minute with stories about business leaving the UK and various other horror stories.
Silent majority and old people all vote to stay based on not wanting to take a risk that might influence their pension and house prices.
Ecosseven said:
I haven't decided yet. If I lived in England, Wales or N. Ireland I would vote to leave. As a Scot living in Scotland I really don't want to see the breakup of the UK which I think may happen in Scotland votes to stay in the EU and rUK votes to leave. The SNP will just see it as an excuse to try and force another independence referendum.
To be fair the SNP will find any excuse to have another referendum.Northern Munkee said:
Ecosseven said:
I haven't decided yet. If I lived in England, Wales or N. Ireland I would vote to leave. As a Scot living in Scotland I really don't want to see the breakup of the UK which I think may happen in Scotland votes to stay in the EU and rUK votes to leave. The SNP will just see it as an excuse to try and force another independence referendum.
To be fair the SNP will find any excuse to have another referendum.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff