So who wants to remain in the EU?

So who wants to remain in the EU?

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anonymous-user

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53 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Some interesting data.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eurefer...

article said:
University educated people are most likely to want to stay in the EU
When it comes to social class and education, those with university education are most likely to be pro-EU - with 62 per cent of graduates wishing to remain in Europe.

Those belonging to the AB social class - usually in higher managerial, administrative and professional occupations - support the EU by 56 to 44 per cent.
Meanwhile, people in the lower DE and C2 social grades have net dissatisfaction with the institution. Ukip has attempted to re-brand itself as a party for the working class, and so it will try and boost turnout in this eurosceptic group.
And from yougov.



Pints

18,444 posts

193 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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While the PH Brexit poll makes the Ukip voters look positively left wing. biggrin

anonymous-user

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53 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Looks like.

Pro EU tend to be = clever people, good jobs, well educated, left wing, young.
Against EU tend to be = Less educated, not so good jobs, right wing, old.

hehe

hornetrider

63,161 posts

204 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Went to Uni. Want out.

Just sayin'


FredClogs

14,041 posts

160 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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I'm pro EU and want to stay in, I'm middle class, well educated, good looking and have a massive schlong.

bucksmanuk

2,311 posts

169 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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28% of UKIP voters want to remain in the EU? - seems high to me....

FredClogs

14,041 posts

160 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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bucksmanuk said:
28% of UKIP voters want to remain in the EU? - seems high to me....
UKIP voters.

Nuff said.

Pan Pan Pan

9,777 posts

110 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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FredClogs said:
I'm pro EU and want to stay in, I'm middle class, well educated, good looking and have a massive schlong.
I only have the massive schlong, which way should I vote? smile

Beati Dogu

8,862 posts

138 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Pan Pan Pan said:
I only have the massive schlong, which way should I vote? smile
In.

anonymous-user

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Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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anonymous said:
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That's not really what's being said.

article said:
Greens love the EU while Ukip loathe it
The poll also examined the voting intentions of voters for all the major parties.
Conservative and Labour voters were the most divided on the issue - with Tories erring towards leaving the EU and the majority of Labour voters wishing to remain.
Unsurprisingly, among Ukip voters, the EU is incredibly unpopular, with 72 per cent wishing to leave. This comes as Nigel Farage wrote in The Telegraph: "leaving the EU is more important than party politics".
More surprisingly, however, 28 per cent of Ukip voters still back the EU - despite Ukip's deputy chairman Suzanna Evans saying the figure is "zero".
Green party voters were most in favour of continued EU membership.

anonymous-user

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Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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FredClogs said:
bucksmanuk said:
28% of UKIP voters want to remain in the EU? - seems high to me....
UKIP voters.

Nuff said.
The remain lead on the right side of the table is a minus figure. That means they don't want to remain. hehe

anonymous-user

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53 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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anonymous said:
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I think it means 66% want to leave.

rs1952

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258 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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In one way I suppose this breakdown is “bear craps in woods” stuff but, if it is fairly accurate (big if of course) it answers a few questions but raises a number of others.

I am often intrigued by the virulent anti-EU stance taken by so many posters on PH, which does not seem to be to be anywhere near representative of the country as a whole, or at least the parts of it that I inhabit and talk to people in (OK for 10 months of the year – mentioned just in case Alfie turns up and tries to make an issue out of it smile ). UKIP supporters are very prevalent on PH, we get a lot of links posted to Wail, Torygraph and Express articles (so some people on here must be reading them), and there are certainly large numbers of us (me included) that fall into the 60+ age group.

I find the results very interesting amongst younger people, with strong support for EU membership from them up to age 49.

We all know that at the end of the day referenda do not resolve anything. As with the Scottish question, whichever side “loses” the EU referendum is not going to shut up and go away. We would have expected the likes of UKIP to keep banging on even if the country votes to stay in, but that high number of younger pro-EU voters does make me think that, even if we vote to come out, another referendum to try to get the UK back in again will be along shortly.

Just my take on the matter.



PurpleTurtle

6,940 posts

143 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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anonymous said:
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Being outside the EU, but still being able to go to Magaluf pretty much hassle free, so they can stuff their fat faces at Tom Brown's English Restaurant, without having to risk "any of that foreign muck"


Don

28,377 posts

283 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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These polls have about as much credibility as...

...the polls that predicted a hung parliament last year.

I think we are probably better off in the EU rather than out.

This is no way encourages me to believe that Britain won't vote for Brexit with a landslide. PH certainly isn't a predictor of the outcome - but you can't spend the last twenty years blaming the EU for regulation, "fighting for Britain's vetoes" from EU law and generally complaining and disrespecting the institution and expect the average UK citizen to look favourably on staying in.

Now, of course, I could be wrong. Who knows, eh? But I know the way it looks to me...

anonymous-user

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53 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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rs1952 said:
I am often intrigued by the virulent anti-EU stance taken by so many posters on PH, which does not seem to be to be anywhere near representative of the country as a whole, or at least the parts of it that I inhabit and talk to people in
Where I work, most people I speak to seem to be pro EU membership but against the eurocrats themselves. Oddly though, they tend to be Conservative voters and university educated. I expect that's because it is a pan european organisation.

Foliage

3,861 posts

121 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Im kinda undecided. I thought we should leave but I don't have enough information to decide and the information I can find always seems to be bias one way or the other...


Jonesy23

4,650 posts

135 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Subtle...

'Only old stupid poor people want to leave the EU. You're not old, stupid or poor are you?'

It'd be interesting to see a plot of how the various categories overlap as I don't think the percentages quoted would line up properly.

Mandalore

4,165 posts

112 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Who would the replacment trade partners be if we left and IF Germany, France & Poland decided to block UK imports and services to europe??


Its pretty clear, they would throw their toys out of the pram, if the UK stopped paying intra to cover their inflated farm subsidies and unemployment benefits.






Derek Smith

45,512 posts

247 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Foliage said:
Im kinda undecided. I thought we should leave but I don't have enough information to decide and the information I can find always seems to be bias one way or the other...
Despite doing quite a lot of research on the subject, I've found no conclusive evidence of us being better off out of the EU or better off in the EU. I get the feeling that as we approach the voting day it will become no easier, and probably impossible, to discern the committed from the informed. If it remains that way then I'll vote to stay.

My reasoning? There's a risk in leaving, a leap into the unknown. All four of my kids, and all four of their partners, want to stay in, all for various reasons, so it is, at the moment, done and dusted for me.

I'm old, left school at 15, am poor, but consider myself intelligent. Of my kid's other halves, one is Japanese, one is half Irish (as am I) and one is half Polish, so we are rather an international family and insularity is not a major character defect.