Can we talk about expensive Ferraris for a bit

Can we talk about expensive Ferraris for a bit

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Welshbeef

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49,633 posts

198 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/f...


The most expensive racing car ever sold last night £24.7million.

Looks like anyone who has 275 GTS 275 GTB 4 cam 250 Lussso etc simply cannot lose.
V12 1960's stunning looks.

ellroy

7,030 posts

225 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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Never mind anything else, but by God it's a pretty looking thing isn't it?

Sadly, for me, Maranello doesn't do pretty anymore. Some cars are striking, but not pretty. A real shame when you see what they were capable of.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,356 posts

150 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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I guess looks were more important than physics back then. These days, with wind tunnels and technology, speed rules. Who would make a good looking racing car when an ugly appendage that ruins the lines would make it quicker?

swamp

994 posts

189 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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Vintage cars are a 'wasting asset' and are exempt from capital gains tax.

Welshbeef

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49,633 posts

198 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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swamp said:
Vintage cars are a 'wasting asset' and are exempt from capital gains tax.
Given the constant publicity of all these gains I wonder how long before Osbourne slaps on CGT ? It would only impact high wealth individuals not the poor

Oilchange

8,462 posts

260 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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unless you are an old pensioner with a mint Escort Mexico in the shed...

Murph7355

37,714 posts

256 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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Oilchange said:
unless you are an old pensioner with a mint Escort Mexico in the shed...
That would be the thing....once the govt get their claws into something, watch the thresholds lower....

crankedup

25,764 posts

243 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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Murph7355 said:
Oilchange said:
unless you are an old pensioner with a mint Escort Mexico in the shed...
That would be the thing....once the govt get their claws into something, watch the thresholds lower....
Yup, without a doubt. Also slapping a CGT on a higher value investment will also affect lower value 'enthusiasts ' cars, fine unless you happen to be looking to purchase your first classic.

Oilchange

8,462 posts

260 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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Good that classics are exempt, I think. At any price.

matsoc

853 posts

132 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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ellroy said:
Never mind anything else, but by God it's a pretty looking thing isn't it?

Sadly, for me, Maranello doesn't do pretty anymore. Some cars are striking, but not pretty. A real shame when you see what they were capable of.
Looks are subjective but I agree, in the 60s the best looking cars ever were made, not only Ferrari, but later there are not many Ferrari I would personally define beautiful. Taking only in consideration the V8s the 458 had some pretty shapes, but overall felt incoherent to me. 488 is clearly uglier and more banal. I liked the 360 when it was first presented, it was a design homage to the past and the Dino compared to the 355 (ugly car if you ask me) but it was then ruined with the 430.


Welshbeef

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198 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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matsoc said:
Looks are subjective but I agree, in the 60s the best looking cars ever were made, not only Ferrari, but later there are not many Ferrari I would personally define beautiful. Taking only in consideration the V8s the 458 had some pretty shapes, but overall felt incoherent to me. 488 is clearly uglier and more banal. I liked the 360 when it was first presented, it was a design homage to the past and the Dino compared to the 355 (ugly car if you ask me) but it was then ruined with the 430.

Personally I'd say that Ferrari wise the 275 GTS Lussso is one of he most stunning cars available - and a close second the 275 GTB4.


MrBarry123

6,027 posts

121 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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That is a truly fantastic looking thing.

Thorodin

2,459 posts

133 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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It's beautiful, no argument. But, is it churlish to wonder about the mid-section exhaust? Even then they must have been aware of the effects of drag in a racing chassis.

slybynight

391 posts

121 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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"Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines." - Enzo Ferrari

Welshbeef

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49,633 posts

198 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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slybynight said:
"Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines." - Enzo Ferrari
smile

No replacement for displacement.

dandarez

13,282 posts

283 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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Oilchange said:
unless you are an old pensioner with a mint Escort Mexico in the shed...
What's an 'old' pensioner? nuts

And anyway, an Escort Mexico at £20-£30k is hardly life changing compared to £20+million!


Descriptions today get to me, someone else above talking about 'Vintage' racers (this is a 'Classic' racing car).

The hack writing in the Telegraph says this Ferrari was driven by 'great British motor racers of the 1950s'. rolleyes

'British racing drivers', please. We're not Americans!


and on topic, who has got something 'rare' hidden in their shed/garage?

HoHoHo

14,987 posts

250 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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Welshbeef said:
slybynight said:
"Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines." - Enzo Ferrari
smile

No replacement for displacement.
Too much horsepower is never enough smile

turbobloke

103,953 posts

260 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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HoHoHo said:
Welshbeef said:
slybynight said:
"Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines." - Enzo Ferrari
smile

No replacement for displacement.
Too much horsepower is never enough smile
Now you're torquing smile

Oilchange

8,462 posts

260 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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Don't know, first words into my head and thus onto the web I suppose.
£20k might not be life changing to me or you but to an old age fellow with only a few bob to live on it would be harsh to have to pay a chunk to the taxman. That was my point.

dandarez said:
What's an 'old' pensioner? nuts
And anyway, an Escort Mexico at £20-£30k is hardly life changing compared to £20+million!

Welshbeef

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Saturday 6th February 2016
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Oilchange said:
Don't know, first words into my head and thus onto the web I suppose.
£20k might not be life changing to me or you but to an old age fellow with only a few bob to live on it would be harsh to have to pay a chunk to the taxman. That was my point.

dandarez said:
What's an 'old' pensioner? nuts
And anyway, an Escort Mexico at £20-£30k is hardly life changing compared to £20+million!
The day when you get a £20k tax bill and don't even flinch Iis something I imagine would at he very least annoy the very very vast population. To some £20k could be more than their whole life savings others they net that monthly and then some.