What a huge waste of public money

[Rovinghawk]

PurpleMoonlight said:

It appears to be the principle that women should be believed regardless of the available evidence to the contrary ....

Is that the principle of the woman in charge?

[TTmonkey]

Sorry but the whole premise of this assault is rediculoous. She got fingered in a public place by a passing stranger in front of many witnesses, hilts wearing trousers?.....? FFs who on earth believed this?

[PurpleMoonlight]

Rovinghawk said:

Is that the principle of the woman in charge?

From personal experience, it goes all they way down to your local PC.

Edited by PurpleMoonlight on Sunday 7th February 16:48

[anonymous-user]

It's hard to understand why the accusation was made. Any genuine assault is obviously terrible for the victim & must also badly affect loved ones etc. So why put them through it if it's clearly made up? Some sort of mental health issue?

[TTmonkey]

If there was no sexual assault them she has no right to continued anonymity

[turbobloke]

TTmonkey said:

Sorry but the whole premise of this assault is rediculoous. She got fingered in a public place by a passing stranger in front of many witnesses, hilts wearing trousers?.....? FFs who on earth believed this?

And the unfortunate random chap singled out was holding a bag strap in one hand and a newspaper in the other. He really must have been a clever dick to accomplish the alleged assault in a fraction of a second.

[///ajd]

Smiler. said:

So are we allowed to have a stab at the identity of the complainant?

No, I know we aren't. But after looking at the picture in the Telegraph, reading the article & 5 minutes of deduction, I have a name.

There are even "facts" involved.

Are you allowed to drop hints?

Looks like they have dark hair?

[Mojooo]

TTmonkey said:

If there was no sexual assault them she has no right to continued anonymity

I presume all that was decided was that they couldnt prove beyond reasonable doubt that he did it - which does not necessarily equate to it didn't happen (in all situations).

[turbobloke]

Mojooo said:

TTmonkey said:

If there was no sexual assault them she has no right to continued anonymity

I presume all that was decided was that they couldnt prove beyond reasonable doubt that he did it - which does not necessarily equate to it didn't happen (in all situations).

Sure, but in this case there's more chance of the guy finding fairies at the garden of his bottom. The CPS is a laughing stock with this one.

[Mojooo]

turbobloke said:

Mojooo said:

TTmonkey said:

If there was no sexual assault them she has no right to continued anonymity

I presume all that was decided was that they couldnt prove beyond reasonable doubt that he did it - which does not necessarily equate to it didn't happen (in all situations).

Sure, but in this case there's more chance of the guy finding fairies at the garden of his bottom. The CPS is a laughing stock with this one.

Having worked in prosecutions (ofr a council) I find it hard to believe these sorts of outrageous cases make it through. I would side with La Liga in asking how it got that far if it was as one sided as the DM makes out - particularly as the legal system is quite favourable for defendants.

[Guybrush]

The accused gets named and the false (and clearly a bit ) accuser doesn't. I just feel there's something wrong there.

[Jasandjules]

On the face of it this seems preposterous.

But one thing to always bear in mind is that what is reported in the press is not always wholly accurate.........

IF it is as reported however, I would hope that some CPS person would lose their job and this woman will be charged herself.

[turbobloke]

Mojooo said:

turbobloke said:

Mojooo said:

TTmonkey said:

If there was no sexual assault them she has no right to continued anonymity

I presume all that was decided was that they couldnt prove beyond reasonable doubt that he did it - which does not necessarily equate to it didn't happen (in all situations).

Sure, but in this case there's more chance of the guy finding fairies at the garden of his bottom. The CPS is a laughing stock with this one.

Having worked in prosecutions (ofr a council) I find it hard to believe these sorts of outrageous cases make it through. I would side with La Liga in asking how it got that far if it was as one sided as the DM makes out - particularly as the legal system is quite favourable for defendants.

???

It's clearly not a DM matter as firstly it's in the Telegraph with similar coverage, and secondly without a doubt no newspaper was involved in staging the CCTV evidence.

With all due respect to La Liga, it's pointless saying anything 'in general terms' as it were when faced with a particular example which is certainly not general.

[turbobloke]

Jasandjules said:

On the face of it this seems preposterous.

But one thing to always bear in mind is that what is reported in the press is not always wholly accurate.........

IF it is as reported however, I would hope that some CPS person would lose their job and this woman will be charged herself.

The video shows this chap with one hand on his rucksack strap and the other holding a newspaper. In every frame iirc. What was used for the penetration in a fraction of a second passing by? As I indicated earlier this would require a very clever dick to accomplish.

[Rovinghawk]

La Liga said:

There are loads of safeguards / processes to bin unfit prosecutions.

Do they work? It would appear otherwise.

[saaby93]

turbobloke said:

and secondly without a doubt no newspaper was involved in staging the CCTV evidence.

Whats that he's holding shown in the cctv if it's not a newspaper?

[turbobloke]

Rovinghawk said:

La Liga said:

There are loads of safeguards / processes to bin unfit prosecutions.

Do they work? It would appear otherwise.

Agreed - generalities are no use in examining specifics in any case.

[turbobloke]

saaby93 said:

turbobloke said:

and secondly without a doubt no newspaper was involved in staging the CCTV evidence.

Whats that he's holding shown in the cctv if it's not a newspaper?

Nice.

However...unless we're told what it is, as you can't tell, it would be pointless to stage. Nobody would agree to be the stooge. Not that you were serious. Surely. Right?

[Einion Yrth]

Rovinghawk said:

La Liga said:

There are loads of safeguards / processes to bin unfit prosecutions.

Do they work? It would appear otherwise.

Well they may do most of the time, no system is entirely error free. Someone's head should be rolling for this one though.

[Rovinghawk]

Einion Yrth said:

Well they may do most of the time, no system is entirely error free. Someone's head should be rolling for this one though.

Accepting that no system is infallible, there ought to be some sort of back-up system such as someone actually looking at the evidence & considering it prior to bringing charges, Far-fetched & impractical, I realise, but a guy can dream.....................

Doubtless various people will be along to defend this situation.