Registering Cat B after October 1st
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Hello, as we all know before removing VIC Checks it was easy to register CAT B cars, basically same process as CAT C cars, fixing them up going through VIC check and receiving logbook.
I have done an experiment (obviously it might be costly) i found a Cat B merc with a front end damage, dont know why it have received CAT B as it was bolt on fix. Anyways i have called DVLA before buying a car to ask can I register it now as there is no more VIC checks available. What they have told me is that if i pass MOT and get it insured i can apply for logbook via V62 form. So this is what i did fixed the car, passed MOT(shows in DVLA check all green) no advisories, insured it without any problems (askmid shows green) and yesterday i have filled V62 also included £25 postal order, and now it is a waiting game might take up to six weeks...
So my question is have anyone tried Registering CAT B car after October 1st as you cannot book VIC check no more ? Just though it might be interesting to know maybe other people have done the same and to get more info in case i dont get logbook, as i have read in other forums that it is possible to book a private examiner but not idea how.
Thanks
Ed
P.S sorry for grammar mistakes, this is my second language.
I have done an experiment (obviously it might be costly) i found a Cat B merc with a front end damage, dont know why it have received CAT B as it was bolt on fix. Anyways i have called DVLA before buying a car to ask can I register it now as there is no more VIC checks available. What they have told me is that if i pass MOT and get it insured i can apply for logbook via V62 form. So this is what i did fixed the car, passed MOT(shows in DVLA check all green) no advisories, insured it without any problems (askmid shows green) and yesterday i have filled V62 also included £25 postal order, and now it is a waiting game might take up to six weeks...
So my question is have anyone tried Registering CAT B car after October 1st as you cannot book VIC check no more ? Just though it might be interesting to know maybe other people have done the same and to get more info in case i dont get logbook, as i have read in other forums that it is possible to book a private examiner but not idea how.
Thanks
Ed
P.S sorry for grammar mistakes, this is my second language.
It shouldn't be any different from a Cat C - the VIC was only for vehicle identity, nothing at all to do with condition. Normally a Cat B would have been sent to scrap and the licensed EVL company would sent in a form to enable the scrap marker. If DVLA don't get a scrap marker, then the car is still registered. Don't think you'll have any problems at all, but not tried it myself.
They've changed the wording on the V5 when a car has been written off - I just had a Cat C V5 through saying the car has been subject to salvage in the past.
How did you manage to get hold of the Cat B? Having trouble finding a back door, not having 'friends' in the industry. PM if you want.
They've changed the wording on the V5 when a car has been written off - I just had a Cat C V5 through saying the car has been subject to salvage in the past.
How did you manage to get hold of the Cat B? Having trouble finding a back door, not having 'friends' in the industry. PM if you want.
Cat B`s pop up time to time on ebay just keep checking, last week there was bmw 120d with a headlight missing and crack in the bumper,wing, starts and drives no airbag damage, and it was CAT B...
Quick update as i have mentioned above i have sent of V62 and waiting for a logbook, DVLA contacted my insurance company to confirm that its the same car insured, spoke to my insurance company they said nothing to worry about... still waiting daily for some news from dvla.
Quick update as i have mentioned above i have sent of V62 and waiting for a logbook, DVLA contacted my insurance company to confirm that its the same car insured, spoke to my insurance company they said nothing to worry about... still waiting daily for some news from dvla.
I was also under the impression that it was:
Cat D - Light damage but deemed "uneconomical" to repair (usually older/cheaper cars) - cost of repair may have not been much but when cost of hire car taken into account etc..
Cat C - Damaged but deemed uneconomical to repair, usually more severe damage generally beyond the value of the car
Cat B - Car must not be resold, can be broken for parts
Cat A - Car must be destroyed in its entirety, may not be broken for parts.
Cat A I believed was reserved for cars which had usually been involved in a fatal collision and may be destroyed for "hygienic" reasons as much as anything else :-S
Cat D - Light damage but deemed "uneconomical" to repair (usually older/cheaper cars) - cost of repair may have not been much but when cost of hire car taken into account etc..
Cat C - Damaged but deemed uneconomical to repair, usually more severe damage generally beyond the value of the car
Cat B - Car must not be resold, can be broken for parts
Cat A - Car must be destroyed in its entirety, may not be broken for parts.
Cat A I believed was reserved for cars which had usually been involved in a fatal collision and may be destroyed for "hygienic" reasons as much as anything else :-S
t really many breakers are easy fixers and plenty of cat C stuff FUBARED....LankyLegoHead said:
Cat B's are for parts, the shell should be crushed. That's what I've always thought, and what Google tells me?
According to the cabal of british insurers and breakers yards etc - that's their code.The category system (B-D anyway) is based on % value of repairs proportional to vehicle worth.
For example, a very cheap car with bumper damage could be cat B simply because a brand new bumper from the manufacturer is £400-500, plus paint at £300, plus other bits of trim for £200 plus labour. With a value of £500 for the car the repairs are 200% of the car's value. In this case it'd be deemed a Cat.B despite no dangerous damage.
LankyLegoHead said:
Cat B's are for parts, the shell should be crushed. That's what I've always thought, and what Google tells me?
There is no law that states this must happen, only the ABI Salvage Code.jayemm89 said:
I was also under the impression that it was:
Cat D - Light damage but deemed "uneconomical" to repair (usually older/cheaper cars) - cost of repair may have not been much but when cost of hire car taken into account etc..
Cat C - Damaged but deemed uneconomical to repair, usually more severe damage generally beyond the value of the car
As usual a lot of what you read on the internet is nonsense. The difference between C and D is purely down to the cost to repair vs the value of car. The category does not directly relate to the amount of damage, but the newer and more valuable a car is when it's written off, the higher the damage is likely to be.Cat D - Light damage but deemed "uneconomical" to repair (usually older/cheaper cars) - cost of repair may have not been much but when cost of hire car taken into account etc..
Cat C - Damaged but deemed uneconomical to repair, usually more severe damage generally beyond the value of the car
CA Category C is awarded when the cost of repairs exceeds the value of the car. e.g. An old banger worth £500 with a dent in a rear quarter would be a Cat C. A more expensive car could be a Cat C even with relatively minor damage if the parts are not readily available, since the insurer will have to pay for a hire car whilst the parts get sourced.
A Category D is awarded when the repair costs exceed the value of the car less the salvage value. e.g. if a £5000 car would cost £3500 to repair, but the salvage is worth £2000, then it would cost the insurance company £3000 to write the car off, but £3500 to repair it.
Gallen said:
I'm keen to know also
Cat Bs have always been able to be re registered, but for those that don't know, the DVSA has said they'll no longer issue log books for Cat A and B - since VIC requirement removed - hence the OP question
Watching this one
When you say DVSA have said this - do you have a link or quote where they have said this?Cat Bs have always been able to be re registered, but for those that don't know, the DVSA has said they'll no longer issue log books for Cat A and B - since VIC requirement removed - hence the OP question
Watching this one
Otherwise doesnt previous apply i.e. although the insurance guidelines CatB in their opinion shouldnt be returned to the road, that's nothing to do with DVLA, otherwise some of the classics you see occasionally making the headlines wouldnt be returnable
saaby93 said:
When you say DVSA have said this - do you have a link or quote where they have said this?
Abolition of the Vehicle Identity Check (This is a link to a PDF document from www.legislation.gov.uk).On page 5:
Abolition of the Vehicle Identity Check said:
There will also be a number of consequential changes to the regulations including ensuring that Cat A and B vehicles are unable to acquire a new registration document and get back on the road.
Mr2Mike said:
saaby93 said:
When you say DVSA have said this - do you have a link or quote where they have said this?
Abolition of the Vehicle Identity Check (This is a link to a PDF document from www.legislation.gov.uk).On page 5:
Abolition of the Vehicle Identity Check said:
There will also be a number of consequential changes to the regulations including ensuring that Cat A and B vehicles are unable to acquire a new registration document and get back on the road.
It seems to be a strange thought process altogether
Out of 942,000 checks only 40 cases of fraud were detected
Surely that's the outcome of successful scheme assuming reducing fraud is the goal
In the same way if speed cameras were successful they'd detect very few people speeding - if reducing speed is the goal.
doc said:
The Department for Transport (DfT) intends to retain the requirement on insurers to destroy the registration document for vehicles that have sustained structural damage and where the cost of commercial repair would exceed the value of the vehicle when repaired, and declared a total write off. This will ensure that only category C vehicles get back on the road.
So if you have a classic which may not be that badly damaged but would exceed it's current value you're no longer going to be allowed to repair it 
Is that the intention?
saaby93 said:
doc said:
The Department for Transport (DfT) intends to retain the requirement on insurers to destroy the registration document for vehicles that have sustained structural damage and where the cost of commercial repair would exceed the value of the vehicle when repaired, and declared a total write off. This will ensure that only category C vehicles get back on the road.
So if you have a classic which may not be that badly damaged but would exceed it's current value you're no longer going to be allowed to repair it Is that the intention?
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