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Adam Ansel

695 posts

107 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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The brief video in this BBC piece is well worth a look:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35599402
I bet you won't expect the result!

Digger

14,692 posts

192 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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How much is a teaspoon though, done by weight? My idea of a teaspoon is heaped. I can't see one of these having 20+ of mine! smile

Audidodat

182 posts

100 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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The impact of poor diet/ sugar consumption on society is enormous, financially and socially. I read yesterday that in the States the first generation to be smaller and die younger than the one before is now in progress. Whether true or not, I don't know.

What I do know is NHS projections are for near double digit growth in type 2 diabetics and frankly frightening resultant costs in managing those conditions.

I'd have no moral issue with sugary foods being taxed more heavily, perhaps if alongside it healthy foods were subsidised.


Hoofy

76,373 posts

283 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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Adam Ansel said:
The brief video in this BBC piece is well worth a look:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35599402
I bet you won't expect the result!
I don't know why people buy that st. It is just adult milkshake. It's obviously full of sugar. Can't you taste it?

Digger

14,692 posts

192 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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Because. Girls.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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Adam Ansel said:
The brief video in this BBC piece is well worth a look:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35599402
I bet you won't expect the result!
The Beeb do absolutely excellent shows on this.

The Truth About series is very good. It covers calories, fats and sugar as far as I can recall. The twin doctor shows are very good as well.

Hoofy

76,373 posts

283 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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Digger said:
Because. Girls.
You mean I could get hot chicks if I drink adult milkshake?

greygoose

8,262 posts

196 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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Halb said:
Adam Ansel said:
The brief video in this BBC piece is well worth a look:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35599402
I bet you won't expect the result!
The Beeb do absolutely excellent shows on this.

The Truth About series is very good. It covers calories, fats and sugar as far as I can recall. The twin doctor shows are very good as well.
I don't think praise of the BBC is allowed in this forum, despite the scary amounts of sugar that are being put in our food.

nelly1

5,630 posts

232 months

Digger

14,692 posts

192 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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Hoofy said:
Digger said:
Because. Girls.
You mean I could get hot chicks if I drink adult milkshake?
Yeah. Let us know how you get on with that?

zygalski

7,759 posts

146 months

Thursday 18th February 2016
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My adult milkshake brings all the girls to the yard.

The Don of Croy

6,000 posts

160 months

Thursday 18th February 2016
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Reading all the pages in this thread throws up some determined advocacy...

According to Public Health England child obesity (age 2 - 15) peaked in 2004/5 at 19%, and has since stabilised at 15-16%, whereas in 1995 it was 12%.

The choice of food in supermarkets does allow for a healthy nutritional food to be found, usually in the fresh fruit and veg aisles (top tip here).

You'll have to exercise care in the meat section, but with healthy competition amongst the retailers you can usually find affordable less-additive-free-range-type protein on special offer, so you can avoid the strange multipack chicken-like pieces of wobbly pale flesh pumped with water and God-knows-what.

But if I wish to microwave a tasty oven ready tagliatelle for my supper washed down with litres of Sunny Delight and finish off with Instant Whip then why not? My choice - at least I have one.

As for Saint James of Essex, the boy's done well (his '15' chain giving unemployed peeps a chance was an innovation for a celeb) and enjoys the high profile. Just because he thinks he's right doesn't mean he isn't, but he can come across as rather strident. But that's not always a bad thing.


stripy7

806 posts

188 months

Thursday 18th February 2016
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The Don of Croy said:
But if I wish to microwave a tasty oven ready tagliatelle for my supper washed down with litres of Sunny Delight and finish off with Instant Whip then why not? My choice - at least I have one.
Absolutely but choice is best if its informed.

Possibly O/T but the supermarket traffic light system of categorising food ingredients is nothing short of criminal with foods such as nuts and fresh fish demonised for their "unhealthy" fat content.
Also thoroughly recommend "Fat, sick and nearly dead" on Netflix.

TEKNOPUG

18,969 posts

206 months

Thursday 18th February 2016
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There is certainly a case for re-education. There's an argument that food & drinks companies have pushed fat as being the devil, whereas in fact, sugar if far worse in your diet. Sugar is cheaper and therefore more profit. So they can push "low fat" products but in order to improve the taste, they are pumped full of sugar.

This is a good watch on the subject: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3892434/

Hoofy

76,373 posts

283 months

Thursday 18th February 2016
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Digger said:
Hoofy said:
Digger said:
Because. Girls.
You mean I could get hot chicks if I drink adult milkshake?
Yeah. Let us know how you get on with that?
Given that it's a good haunt for hot chicks (well, in the ones I walk past), it'd probably be a good thing for my love life.

And at the worst, I get to see my hot dentist more often. wink

Mr Whippy

29,049 posts

242 months

Thursday 18th February 2016
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It's all a big non-issue.

Rather than have a clamp down on sugar, they should just tax people more on council tax and earnings based on their body density.

Thorodin

2,459 posts

134 months

Thursday 18th February 2016
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It's a well known fact that heads are denser than guts. Ingestion of sweet sticky things is usually, but not always, voluntary. Ergo: death or remedial treatment via NHS for self inflicted maladies should be taxed for the 'sufferer' ie pay before treatment. The alternative, of course, is for the consumer to take an interest in their own morbidity, and eventually, mortality. Follow the money, when manufacturers notice their products aren't selling, they mysteriously produce other products.

Dr Jekyll

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23,820 posts

262 months

Thursday 18th February 2016
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Simblade said:
Yeah from diabetes at age 12 to age 14 the decrease has been so minimal.

You can't measure sugar consumption by diabetes levels. Obesity is one factor in diabetes, but that's as far as the connection goes.

0000

13,812 posts

192 months

Wednesday 16th March 2016
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So he's got a tax on sugary drinks (but not fruit based or milk). And not his cakes.

Hoofy

76,373 posts

283 months

Wednesday 16th March 2016
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0000 said:
So he's got a tax on sugary drinks (but not fruit based or milk). And not his cakes.
Mm. Dunno how he managed that!