How to Die: Simon's Choice
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Didn't watch this as my grandfather died from MND, watching it happen once was enough.
Anyone who is interested in the work of the MND Association can find out more here - http://www.mndassociation.org/
Anyone who is interested in the work of the MND Association can find out more here - http://www.mndassociation.org/
Reminds me of Terry's documentary.
There's no humanity in stretching life out to existence and what we do to people. I hope MPs in their palace realise that one day.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Pratchett:_Cho...
There's no humanity in stretching life out to existence and what we do to people. I hope MPs in their palace realise that one day.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Pratchett:_Cho...
Very powerful program to watch brought a tear to my eye on several occasions.
I have mixed emotions about assisted deaths, but to see how he changed in less than a year and to understand how he felt in terms of wanting to end his life then you should certainly have the right to do it in this country.
An incredibly brave man and family.
I have mixed emotions about assisted deaths, but to see how he changed in less than a year and to understand how he felt in terms of wanting to end his life then you should certainly have the right to do it in this country.
An incredibly brave man and family.
I watched this last night in stunned silence with the other half. I had to bite my fist a few times, and it was emotionally a very powerful documentary.
I've been undecided on assisted suicide for a long time - I could confidently argue for either side of the case, but last night put into a very personal perspective, and showed both his decision and also his wife's anguish fairly and balanced.
Even the Dr at the clinic was very balanced when talking to both of them - discussing both sides and making sure that both knew how the other felt.
What I did have issue with was the fact that he made the call very early on, and picked a date months in advance. I almost felt that he willed himself downhill to meet that date, rather than maybe work with the medical teams to prolong the life he had until it became intolerable. The fact he didn't discuss it in advance with his wife didn't sit well with me, and the last words of his mother was incredibly telling of her thoughts.
"Some of my friends have said I have been brave, others say that Simon was the brave one. I think the brave ones are those who live with the condition to the very end"...
I'm still undecided on Assisted Suicide, I just hope I'm never in a position that I'm affected personally by it.
But it was a compelling piece of TV, regardless of how difficult it was to watch and assimilate thoughts afterwards.
I've been undecided on assisted suicide for a long time - I could confidently argue for either side of the case, but last night put into a very personal perspective, and showed both his decision and also his wife's anguish fairly and balanced.
Even the Dr at the clinic was very balanced when talking to both of them - discussing both sides and making sure that both knew how the other felt.
What I did have issue with was the fact that he made the call very early on, and picked a date months in advance. I almost felt that he willed himself downhill to meet that date, rather than maybe work with the medical teams to prolong the life he had until it became intolerable. The fact he didn't discuss it in advance with his wife didn't sit well with me, and the last words of his mother was incredibly telling of her thoughts.
"Some of my friends have said I have been brave, others say that Simon was the brave one. I think the brave ones are those who live with the condition to the very end"...
I'm still undecided on Assisted Suicide, I just hope I'm never in a position that I'm affected personally by it.
But it was a compelling piece of TV, regardless of how difficult it was to watch and assimilate thoughts afterwards.
MentalSarcasm said:
Didn't watch this as my grandfather died from MND, watching it happen once was enough.
Anyone who is interested in the work of the MND Association can find out more here - http://www.mndassociation.org/
Similar. fAnyone who is interested in the work of the MND Association can find out more here - http://www.mndassociation.org/
king godawful disease, and leaves me in no doubt that the choice should be up to the person concerned.Watched this last night on my own it was really emotional which is daft when you don't have any connection .
The whole family and friends seemed so genuine and although the last moments of his life were incredibly emotional the last few seconds of him dancing around and then with his Dog explained in vivid detail about just how much of his life he had lost . Very well produced programme.
The one thing that truly angered me was the Woman calmly explaining how they might or might not prosecute people as if she was discussing a parking ticket and as others have said you would be done for cruelty if you kept an animal alive in circumstances where it couldn't function as an animal
The whole family and friends seemed so genuine and although the last moments of his life were incredibly emotional the last few seconds of him dancing around and then with his Dog explained in vivid detail about just how much of his life he had lost . Very well produced programme.
The one thing that truly angered me was the Woman calmly explaining how they might or might not prosecute people as if she was discussing a parking ticket and as others have said you would be done for cruelty if you kept an animal alive in circumstances where it couldn't function as an animal
johnxjsc1985 said:
The one thing that truly angered me was the Woman calmly explaining how they might or might not prosecute people as if she was discussing a parking ticket and as others have said you would be done for cruelty if you kept an animal alive in circumstances where it couldn't function as an animal
TBF they have obviously interviewed the woman from the CPS and asked her a legal quetsio nto which she has provided a very generic answer.I think the chances of anyone being prosecuted for what happened on the show are very slim - as she alluded to.
Really well done programme. Hard watching towards the end, very sad.
Discussed it afterwards with my missus and we both agreed it was the right decision to make.
Whilst it would have been hard on his family, his quality of life was rapidly deterioating.
It's unfair to make people who can't afford to travel to these clinics suffer.
It's definetly something I would think about doing if i had a terminal Illness, or in great pain with an illness.
Shoving morphine into someone and sitting them in a chair in a hospice is wrong, it's no quality of life at all, even more so if you had an illness that leaves you unable to communicate with anyone. What kind of life is that ?
Discussed it afterwards with my missus and we both agreed it was the right decision to make.
Whilst it would have been hard on his family, his quality of life was rapidly deterioating.
It's unfair to make people who can't afford to travel to these clinics suffer.
It's definetly something I would think about doing if i had a terminal Illness, or in great pain with an illness.
Shoving morphine into someone and sitting them in a chair in a hospice is wrong, it's no quality of life at all, even more so if you had an illness that leaves you unable to communicate with anyone. What kind of life is that ?
Edited by PDP76 on Friday 12th February 15:45
Jasandjules said:
I get very annoyed at the arrogance of people who think they should be able to dictate to another when their quality of life has deteriorated to the extent they wish to leave this life.
I wonder how many of those people have ever seen a loved one in this position, I suspect very few.
I don't think that is the point - its more the fact that people may feel pressured into having it done if it was here - this pressure can be from varying degrees of being self inflicted to the mroe dodgy ones of relatives wanting to off you.I wonder how many of those people have ever seen a loved one in this position, I suspect very few.
What if it became the norm that peopel started offing themselves as soon as they thought they became a burden.
Overall I think people should have a choice but legalising it could have unexpected effects so I can see why an MP would be cautious about voting for it.
The wife gave the best example with her daughter I suppose - although I suspect any legal method would be drawn out like it was in the swiss place.
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