Boris: Why the all the love?
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I've really gone off him, he's evasive, snide, derisory and shows contempt for anyone who challenges his opinions.
His carefully manicured public image is completely transparent and I think he would be a disaster for this country if he ever manage to make it a PM.
Sadly there seems to be huge numbers of people who can't see past the floppy haired buffoon act and see him as some sort of loveable rogue.
Granted, he comes out with some cracking quotes on occasion but that's about his only redeeming feature.
This is from listening to his interviews and lots of airtime he gets on LBC Radio, he really doesn't ever answer anyones questions and is quick to gloss over anything that he might have got wrong. Slippier than a Thames Eel.
The Garden Bridge is just yet another example, up to his eyeballs in dodgy deals for his rich pals with that one.
His carefully manicured public image is completely transparent and I think he would be a disaster for this country if he ever manage to make it a PM.
Sadly there seems to be huge numbers of people who can't see past the floppy haired buffoon act and see him as some sort of loveable rogue.
Granted, he comes out with some cracking quotes on occasion but that's about his only redeeming feature.
This is from listening to his interviews and lots of airtime he gets on LBC Radio, he really doesn't ever answer anyones questions and is quick to gloss over anything that he might have got wrong. Slippier than a Thames Eel.
The Garden Bridge is just yet another example, up to his eyeballs in dodgy deals for his rich pals with that one.
He's a smart guy but politically has a habit of sitting on the fence and trying to be all things to all people. Apart from upsetting some Cities he actually rarely says anything that really takes a position on any issue.
Europe may be his undoing. If he goes to the "in" camp many of his previous supporters in the Tory Party will probably never forgive him and that'll be it for his leadership chances. If he joins a losing "out" camp he'll be annexed to the back benches by a vengeful party forever.
To be honest he may as well take the gamble and go "out" on the remote chance the UK votes to leave then he can be the all conquering victor brilliantly placed to usurp the losing CMD.
Europe may be his undoing. If he goes to the "in" camp many of his previous supporters in the Tory Party will probably never forgive him and that'll be it for his leadership chances. If he joins a losing "out" camp he'll be annexed to the back benches by a vengeful party forever.
To be honest he may as well take the gamble and go "out" on the remote chance the UK votes to leave then he can be the all conquering victor brilliantly placed to usurp the losing CMD.
Zombie said:
He comes across as being genuine. He's the only tory I'd even consider voting for.
And, as I said in my last post, went to london for the first time in a long time. I thought the Boris bikes were brilliant.
The "Boris bikes" that Ken Livingstone actually introduced? Those ones? And, as I said in my last post, went to london for the first time in a long time. I thought the Boris bikes were brilliant.
Edited by Zombie on Thursday 11th February 00:53
Blaster72 said:
Zombie said:
He comes across as being genuine. He's the only tory I'd even consider voting for.
And, as I said in my last post, went to london for the first time in a long time. I thought the Boris bikes were brilliant.
The "Boris bikes" that Ken Livingstone actually introduced? Those ones? And, as I said in my last post, went to london for the first time in a long time. I thought the Boris bikes were brilliant.
Edited by Zombie on Thursday 11th February 00:53
Vaud said:
Blaster72 said:
The "Boris bikes" that Ken Livingstone actually introduced? Those ones?
Boris was mayor when they were deployed. Ken commissioned the idea (and it was a great one).That, as they say, is life and unfortunate timing. Cuts both ways though.
I was in my late teens living in Henley when Boris was our MP. He was always around town and made time to talk to people about local issues. I spent a good few evenings knocking back a few in his company and he's an engaging and interesting fellow. He was greatly missed when he went off to be Mayor of London.
Blaster72 said:
Zombie said:
He comes across as being genuine. He's the only tory I'd even consider voting for.
And, as I said in my last post, went to london for the first time in a long time. I thought the Boris bikes were brilliant.
The "Boris bikes" that Ken Livingstone actually introduced? Those ones? And, as I said in my last post, went to london for the first time in a long time. I thought the Boris bikes were brilliant.
Edited by Zombie on Thursday 11th February 00:53
Europa1 said:
Blaster72 said:
His carefully manicured public image is completely transparent ....
Sadly there seems to be huge numbers of people who can't see past the floppy haired buffoon act and see him as some sort of loveable rogue.
You seem to have contradicted yourself.Sadly there seems to be huge numbers of people who can't see past the floppy haired buffoon act and see him as some sort of loveable rogue.
ali_kat said:
eople didn't like Churchill either
The difference is/was that if Churchill had an opinion on something he stuck to his principles even if it was very much to the detriment of his political career at the time and even if he was in a majority of 1. He then sought to persuade others with the force of argument.Boris likes to sound all Churchillian but if you analyse what he actually says he rarely takes a stand on anything.
Churchill was many things but never a populist politician. Boris is almost the definition of it.
drivetrain said:
ali_kat said:
eople didn't like Churchill either
It sounds as though you're putting Boris and Churchill on a par.Seriously?
No comparison in my book, Boris is a snidy, mealy mouthed class knob putting on a buffoon act.
Churchill - no need to say more.
I'm saying that I think he'll be good for the Country, and when people look at it as part of History, he'll be remembered as a 'good one'.
Churchill maybe considered as great now, but at the time, he wasn't liked at all
ali_kat said:
drivetrain said:
ali_kat said:
eople didn't like Churchill either
It sounds as though you're putting Boris and Churchill on a par.Seriously?
No comparison in my book, Boris is a snidy, mealy mouthed class knob putting on a buffoon act.
Churchill - no need to say more.
I'm saying that I think he'll be good for the Country, and when people look at it as part of History, he'll be remembered as a 'good one'.
Churchill maybe considered as great now, but at the time, he wasn't liked at all
Blaster72 said:
Almost 9 million people voted for Churchill and his part a couple of months after VE day, to say he wasn't liked at all is absurd. The populace at the time just believed Atlee and his party were more capable of rebuilding and moving on than the conservatives.
Don't get me wrong; I respect the guy, butAfter VE day, yes. But only because he was a racist that recognised a bigger racist when he saw one.
Until then, he'd been seen as incompetent politician who had the good fortune of being at the right place at the right time in the 1930's. He'd unleashed the notorious Black and Tan thugs on Ireland's Catholic civilians; sent thousands of soldiers to their death at Gallipoli in 1915; and put the Bengal famine down to "their own fault for breeding like rabbits".
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