BBC Bias EU referendum

[TTwiggy]

deadslow said:

a bunch of people on here get very angry because the BBC is not a Tory newspaper.

Wrong. Those same people actually consider the Torys to be a dangerous left-wing cabal.

[limpsfield]

don4l said:

The funny thing is that the pound strengthened against the Euro today.

The funny thing is, it hasn't. The news outlets are correct, the £ has hit a multi year low against the dollar and it has weakened against the euro.

Here's another news source beginning with B, but hopefully less likely to fuel the conspiracy theories.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-21/...

[markcoznottz]

Scuffers said:

TTwiggy said:

So the poster on the other thread who thought that the BBC was BOTH left-wing biased AND run by a Zionist hierachy is what? Correct on one count and wrong on the other? Or maybe it is all about perception and that happens to be his perception of the BBC.

basically, yes.

bias can be measured, perceptions are harder to quantify.

I do think the BBC is biased, that does not mean I think they are Zionist, and I suspect it would be somewhat hard to demonstrate that!

Most media is under Jewish control, that is a fact. There is also a revolving door BBC - guardian - government, it's riddled with common purpose commie goons, that is a fact. In fact didn't a retired exec actually admit a left bias? Question time is one safe space away from an Oxford uni debate.

[ATG]

0000 said:

I hardly think

There we go. Fixed that for you.

[Beati Dogu]

jonby said:

Ayahuasca said:

The article suggests that the BBC is so biased that it does not know it is biased.

Example - referring to 'coming out of Europe', rather than 'coming out of the EU'.

not sure whether that's biased or poor journalism and I'm also not sure which is worse

Oh it's quite deliberate.

[markh1973]

don4l said:

The funny thing is that the pound strengthened against the Euro today.

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Looks like Sterling has fallen against the Euro to me - not sure where you get the idea it has strengthened

[FredClogs]

markh1973 said:

don4l said:

The funny thing is that the pound strengthened against the Euro today.

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Looks like Sterling has fallen against the Euro to me - not sure where you get the idea it has strengthened

BBC bias, innit, if you swivel your eyes long enough they turn upside down and you can see them for what they are without the BBC bias, and don't talk to me about numbers, they're a socialist conspiracy if there ever was one, bloody greeks with their numbers, there was never any of this pinko liblabconspiracy when we had the good old fashioned Roman Numerals.

[0000]

ATG said:

0000 said:

I hardly think

There we go. Fixed that for you.

Outstanding contribution. Have a GCSE in Media Studies.

[deadslow]

FredClogs said:

markh1973 said:

don4l said:

The funny thing is that the pound strengthened against the Euro today.

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Looks like Sterling has fallen against the Euro to me - not sure where you get the idea it has strengthened

BBC bias, innit, if you swivel your eyes long enough they turn upside down and you can see them for what they are without the BBC bias, and don't talk to me about numbers, they're a socialist conspiracy if there ever was one, bloody greeks with their numbers, there was never any of this pinko liblabconspiracy when we had the good old fashioned Roman Numerals.

No, you've got it all wrong. The Romans were practically communists. They had an equal opportunity policy for enslavement

[NRS]

Scuffers said:

NRS said:

There is none.

True.

NRS said:

If it's different to your view it will effectively be biased,

rubbish, that's just perception, bias is black/white issue, perception is grey.

How do you prove it though? What one person regards as bias another person will regard as factual. Take the pound-dollar issue today. It is fact. However some people are using it as an example of bias. The question on what caused it is up for debate (I think it's the uncertainty on what will happen, and the pound being very strong generally and thus it is more "likely" to fall) but the pound falling is fact.

Also what is factual may be regarded as bias in a longer term trend. A report that a black man has killed someone? Factual. Lots of reports a black person has killed someone? To some people that would be factual. To others it may be biased because it is portraying black people in a negative way. To be unbiased you would have to measure the percentage of black murderers versus those of other colours and then run stories according to those percentages.

[jonby]

TTwiggy said:

deadslow said:

a bunch of people on here get very angry because the BBC is not a Tory newspaper.

Wrong. Those same people actually consider the Torys to be a dangerous left-wing cabal.

Funnily enough my father no longer considers the conservatives to be right wing and instead considers them to be a centre ground party now. I guess in a similar way to the views of labour under Tony Blair. I'm not saying I agree with him (though you could argue he has a point in purely relative terms)

[jonby]

markcoznottz said:

Most media is under Jewish control, that is a fact. There is also a revolving door BBC - guardian - government, it's riddled with common purpose commie goons, that is a fact. In fact didn't a retired exec actually admit a left bias? Question time is one safe space away from an Oxford uni debate.

Something that is often overlooked is that whilst there are indeed many powerful jews in the world of media, they too tend to be of left wing leaning, contrary to the 'typical jew' in this country. Particularly the jews in the BBC. They also very often tend to have a different opinion on the Israel/Palestinian conflict than the 'typical British jew'. Oh and by & large, they tend to be less observant too. Massive generalisations with lots of exceptions of course, but based on extensive personal experience

[NRS]

jonby said:

Something that is often overlooked is that whilst there are indeed many powerful jews in the world of media, they too tend to be of left wing leaning, contrary to the 'typical jew' in this country. Particularly the jews in the BBC. They also very often tend to have a different opinion on the Israel/Palestinian conflict than the 'typical British jew'. Oh and by & large, they tend to be less observant too. Massive generalisations with lots of exceptions of course, but based on extensive personal experience

Are you sure that's not biased?

[FredClogs]

Ha ha... The Jews... Didn't take long did it...

Jesus H Christ (the lefty Jew do gooder) you people are ridiculous.

[greygoose]

FredClogs said:

Ha ha... The Jews... Didn't take long did it...

Jesus H Christ (the lefty Jew do gooder) you people are ridiculous.

Indeed, some outstanding stupidity in this thread.

[anonymous-user]

BBC in 'we support Tory PM' scandal...

[anonymous-user]

TTwiggy said:

deadslow said:

a bunch of people on here get very angry because the BBC is not a Tory newspaper.

Wrong. Those same people actually consider the Torys to be a dangerous left-wing cabal.

Ha! Very good!

[Einion Yrth]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Meh, some of us can at least form a plural correctly; that would be "Tories".

[anonymous-user]

The thread happens to be on the subject of politics, not grammar.

[don4l]

limpsfield said:

don4l said:

The funny thing is that the pound strengthened against the Euro today.

The funny thing is, it hasn't. The news outlets are correct, the £ has hit a multi year low against the dollar and it has weakened against the euro.

Here's another news source beginning with B, but hopefully less likely to fuel the conspiracy theories.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-21/...

It would appear that the answer depends on where you look. Google finance is saying that the Pound advanced against the Euro today. I do hope that you are right and I am wrong.

An undervalued Pound is excellent news for our exporters, and will boost our employment figures even further.

This is very welcome news.


The FTSE100 did well today because investors understand that a weak pound is excellent news for our manufacturers. It is also excellent news for the unemployed.

Edited by don4l on Monday 22 February 19:58