BBC Bias EU referendum

[Smollet]

don4l said:

It would appear that the answer depends on where you look.

Do you think that the FTSE100 did well today, or are you only looking for bad news?

An undervalued Pound is excellent news for our exporters, and will boost our employment figures even further.

This is very welcome news.

The female newsreader on the 6pm BBC news programme announced the falling pound with a certain amount of glee I thought. However the economic expert on it pointed out that a falling pound actually can be quite a good thing. She looked a bit perplexed.

[Einion Yrth]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

I am disinclined to give too much credence to the opinions of those who cannot even master the simple rules of English orthography.

[Scuffers]

Jimboka said:

BBC in 'we support Tory PM' scandal...

you're so getting this a bit wrong there bias is not for a political party per se as a political Persuasion so because their eurofiles will support whatever party or leader wants us to carry on in the EU be that labour Tory Lib Dem green, but definitley not UKIP

[jonby]

NRS said:

jonby said:

Something that is often overlooked is that whilst there are indeed many powerful jews in the world of media, they too tend to be of left wing leaning, contrary to the 'typical jew' in this country. Particularly the jews in the BBC. They also very often tend to have a different opinion on the Israel/Palestinian conflict than the 'typical British jew'. Oh and by & large, they tend to be less observant too. Massive generalisations with lots of exceptions of course, but based on extensive personal experience

Are you sure that's not biased?

I think so. There have been many polls & studies to suggest that in more recent general elections, a far greater percentage of jews voted tory and far fewer voted labour, than the national averages. Of course that's influenced partly by the large number of jews living in London compared to say, Liverpool or Newcastle. But it still results in more jews voting tory than labour compared to national trends, so my comment about the 'typical jew' in statistical terms, being more right wing, is true, regardless of the reasons behind it. Some of the voting patterns are based on traditional themes, whilst of course the jewish vote in this country is also influenced by a party's attitude towards Israel - there are plenty of articles suggesting that the jewish vote for Labour/Milliband in the last election was destroyed by his perceived attitude towards Israel, despite him being jewish, which is astonishing, especially given the strong historical links of zionists to socialism

Meanwhile my observation of jews in media is more a general observation along the lines of many posts on here about the stereotypical lefty media luvvie regardless of religion - does one need to do more than mention Alan Yentob ? As for being less observant, a large majority of openly jewish presenters & broadcasters, plus for that matter the guest rabbis one sees on talk shows & debates, are either members of the liberal/reform jewish moments which represent only small minority of british jewry and/or are openly non-practising. I have no problem with any of that on an individual level - it's a personal choice & a personal opinion that each person is entitled to. I'm not much of a practicer. But I don't believe it to be representative of british jewry as a whole and therefore put simply, it means the statement 'most media is under jewish control' is misleading. Unquestionably there are a disproportionately large number of jews in the media, as there are in law, medicine & business. But the implication is that jews the people, rather than a group of individual jews, control the media - that I strongly disagree with, no better evidenced than the strong opinions in British jewry that the BBC & many other British media organisations are biased against Israel at an institutional level

[mybrainhurts]

deadslow said:

Lucas CAV said:

NRS said:

Lucas CAV said:

Can someone point me at an unbiased general news source ?

There is none. If it's different to your view it will effectively be biased,

I was just waiting for the usual anti-BBC frothers to suggest something different as an example for which the BBC could follow-

a bunch of people on here get very angry because the BBC is not a Tory newspaper.

Nah, impartial will do, you silly billy.

[rs1952]

deadslow said:

FredClogs said:

markh1973 said:

don4l said:

The funny thing is that the pound strengthened against the Euro today.

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Looks like Sterling has fallen against the Euro to me - not sure where you get the idea it has strengthened

BBC bias, innit, if you swivel your eyes long enough they turn upside down and you can see them for what they are without the BBC bias, and don't talk to me about numbers, they're a socialist conspiracy if there ever was one, bloody greeks with their numbers, there was never any of this pinko liblabconspiracy when we had the good old fashioned Roman Numerals.

No, you've got it all wrong. The Romans were practically communists. They had an equal opportunity policy for enslavement

Yeah - but what did the Romans ever do for us?

[CrutyRammers]

Some "random" ordinary Europeans give their views on Brexit:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...

Strangely enough, all are against it. All totally random and representative I'm sure.

[v8250]

rs1952 said:

Yeah - but what did the Romans Remainians ever do for us?

Bugger all, at the last count. Unless we consider constant deceit to public and forty years socio-economic diatribe.

OT, anyone notice the similarity between the Life of Brian's, Sermon on the Mount scene, and the EU funding debacle?

"Blessed are the Greeks, for they shall inherit even greater debt..."

"Blessed are the cheese makers..." Do I need to answer this one?

[limpsfield]

don4l said:

It would appear that the answer depends on where you look. Google finance is saying that the Pound advanced against the Euro today. I do hope that you are right and I am wrong.

Edited by don4l on Monday 22 February 19:58

I am. You seemed quite annoyed earlier when it was being reported that the £ was falling, so I am not sure why you want to be wrong. It would be interesting to see this google finance link. They are normally very accurate in my experience

[FredClogs]

CrutyRammers said:

Some "random" ordinary Europeans give their views on Brexit:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...

Strangely enough, all are against it. All totally random and representative I'm sure.

Are you suggesting it could be both random and representative? Seems like that would be a long shot.

[Einion Yrth]

CrutyRammers said:

Some "random" ordinary Europeans give their views on Brexit:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...

Strangely enough, all are against it. All totally random and representative I'm sure.

Even were it genuine, quite frankly I don't give a stuff. By all means guys come and visit, bring a sleeping bag, we can go down the pub and talk about stuff, but I don't want the likes of Verhofstadt and Von Rumpuy anywhere near decisions that affect me on a daily basis. I expect that's just because I'm a frothing xenophobe, but... you know.

[rs1952]

v8250 said:

rs1952 said:

Yeah - but what did the Romans Remainians ever do for us?

Bugger all, at the last count. Unless we consider constant deceit to public and forty years socio-economic diatribe.

OT, anyone notice the similarity between the Life of Brian's, Sermon on the Mount scene, and the EU funding debacle?

"Blessed are the Greeks, for they shall inherit even greater debt..."

"Blessed are the cheese makers..." Do I need to answer this one?

Initially I wondered what the fk your reply had to do with my post. Then I read your "amendment."

Ooh me sides.....

[Scuffers]

Have we commented on this yet?


https://youtu.be/YFmDePLUNV0

Much as i despise most of his views, he was spot on here...

[NRS]

FredClogs said:

CrutyRammers said:

Some "random" ordinary Europeans give their views on Brexit:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...

Strangely enough, all are against it. All totally random and representative I'm sure.

Are you suggesting it could be both random and representative? Seems like that would be a long shot.

It's not very strange at all. Put it this way; it is much easier to go to the UK on holiday at the moment. Maybe the same will happen if the UK leaves, but it's unclear. The second thing is if the UK is giving £55 million a day more than it gets back why would any of these countries want it to leave? I live in Europe, and know no one who wants the UK to leave (apart from PHers in NP&E, ).

limpsfield said:

don4l said:

It would appear that the answer depends on where you look. Google finance is saying that the Pound advanced against the Euro today. I do hope that you are right and I am wrong.

Edited by don4l on Monday 22 February 19:58

I am. You seemed quite annoyed earlier when it was being reported that the £ was falling, so I am not sure why you want to be wrong. It would be interesting to see this google finance link. They are normally very accurate in my experience

It probably depends on the timezone they are using as a cut-off. Different sites will use a different time as "end of day".

Smollet said:

don4l said:

It would appear that the answer depends on where you look.

Do you think that the FTSE100 did well today, or are you only looking for bad news?

An undervalued Pound is excellent news for our exporters, and will boost our employment figures even further.

This is very welcome news.

The female newsreader on the 6pm BBC news programme announced the falling pound with a certain amount of glee I thought. However the economic expert on it pointed out that a falling pound actually can be quite a good thing. She looked a bit perplexed.

I haven#t been monitoring the £ on a detailed level, but generally it is very strong against a lot of currencies at the moment. So a falling pound is not going to be doing much at these levels. Still expensive for exporting.

[limpsfield]

Time of day wouldn't have made much difference today due to the size of the move-I fear it was just a PH made up fact.

[powerstroke]

Oh surprise , our lovely BBC ! First Climate change now the EU gets the BBC treatment!!
So this morning we had all sorts of obscure bussiness saying how leaving would end in disaster , almost a 3rd of businesses write letter to the times ( what about the other 2 thirds?) saying stay or the sky will fall
then its the pound falling not that the stock market has risen!!

[anonymous-user]

The reporters love it. We've got months of this to come!

[Scuffers]

followed by a trip to the irish borders with picture of army checkpoints and how leaving will lead to a hard border etc etc.

totally ignoring that the anglo/irish agreements that pre-date the EU.

[hornetrider]

Watched the BBC local news last night (Wales). They had an article on Europe with views from members of the public.

It broke down like this :

Farmer wanted to stay, was afraid of a leap into the unknown with regards to his EU subsidy.

Woman at European Centre advising about benefits and education schemes for Europeans trying to relocate here(!) Didn't want to throw this away.

Polish bloke outside a pub, in stilted English, wanted to leave because England puts more in than it gets out so is basically supporting the poor bits of Europe.

Swivel eyed old dear who wanted to stay because she was scared about defence and jobs, and that we couldn't stand on our own to feet anymore.

So that's 3 to 1 in favour of staying and the 1 in favour was an immigrant.

Brilliant.

Here wo go, found the direct video! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-35636243

Edited by hornetrider on Tuesday 23 February 07:29

[limpsfield]

powerstroke said:

then its the pound falling not that the stock market has risen!!

Stock market rising had more to do with a 5% bounce in oil rather than any EU in/out/shake it all about