Living in the age of propaganda - your examples please

Living in the age of propaganda - your examples please

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Hugh Jarse

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Tuesday 8th March 2016
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We are living in an age of blatant propaganda - perhaps it was always so(?).
The UK is known in the world for two fairly biased and popular sites, the BBC (left) & Daily Mail (right).
Interesting how media is clickbait-infected in order to generate traffic.

You dont have to comment on the issue, just the warped or inaccurate portrayal.

My starter is this on the BBC:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35750868
Classic propaganda :
choose smiley face
headline earlier said "being thrown out for a jibe." (now changed)
Called declaring intending to kill a presidential candidate a "jibe".
Im my world that is horrendously biased and ugly painting of a situation.

edited to remove pictures

Edited by Hugh Jarse on Tuesday 8th March 13:46

Murph7355

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Tuesday 8th March 2016
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Which bit are you referring to as horrendous/ugly...?

mike74

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131 months

Tuesday 8th March 2016
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"The UK economy is booming and is the envy of Europe"...

Hugh Jarse

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Tuesday 8th March 2016
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Heres another from the beeb
Headline says "Europe hates Trump".
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35702584
Yet no empirical data presented to back up the claim, just some random quotes from people and publications that would be expected to dislike trump.
Quite an interesting article, but the headline is not just inaccurate, a plain lie.
edited to remove pictures

Edited by Hugh Jarse on Tuesday 8th March 13:48

Hugh Jarse

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Murph7355 said:
Which bit are you referring to as horrendous/ugly...?
Well that it was not described as a declaration to kill the candidate
Later regretting it whilst in prison, does not make it a "jibe".
Otherwise all statements like that are "jibes" until carried out.

dandarez

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Tuesday 8th March 2016
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Murph7355 said:
Which bit are you referring to as horrendous/ugly...?
I'm waiting for the answer too.

Hurry up, I have to go out.

oyster

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247 months

Tuesday 8th March 2016
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OP, where's your Daily Mail images?

rpguk

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Tuesday 8th March 2016
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http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a... - dozens of posts on PH where people make similar threats.

There are threats to kill and 'threats to kill'. The BBC article on the Egyptian bloke seems fine to me in picking up that and if your evidence that we live in 'the age of propaganda' is because they didn't use a panto-villanesq photo of him rofl

The 'Europeans hate trump' article is clearly marked up as an editorial/magazine piece.

wolves_wanderer

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236 months

Tuesday 8th March 2016
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Seeing as the OP has surprisingly only managed to find BBC bias.





Not a headline and not strictly speaking a lie, although it craftily gives a misleading impression that the reason the criminal wasn't sent to prison was because of his mitigation plea, whereas in fact the judge specifically stated that he didn't accept it.

Jasandjules

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228 months

Tuesday 8th March 2016
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Tory Party are not inbred rupert self serving scum.

People on benefits are all layabouts.

All disabled people are putting it on and can regrow limbs etc at will...

Europa1

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187 months

Tuesday 8th March 2016
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Jasandjules said:
Tory Party are not inbred rupert self serving scum.

People on benefits are all layabouts.

All disabled people are putting it on and can regrow limbs etc at will...
You voted conservative didn't you? or UKIP? wink


Hugh Jarse

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Tuesday 8th March 2016
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oyster said:
OP, where's your Daily Mail images?
You are welcome to contribute, its a thread biggrin

Hugh Jarse

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rpguk said:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a... - dozens of posts on PH where people make similar threats.
There are threats to kill and 'threats to kill'. The BBC article on the Egyptian bloke seems fine to me in picking up that and if your evidence that we live in 'the age of propaganda' is because they didn't use a panto-villanesq photo of him rofl

The 'Europeans hate trump' article is clearly marked up as an editorial/magazine piece.
Well given it is tax payer funded the statement "Europe hates Trump" should have "Opinion : Europe hates Trump" title as there are no empirical references.
A threat to kill is not a jibe, saying his head "looks like a hay bale" is a jibe.
Again, I dont think its acceptable because the BBC is state funded, but glad to read the opposing argument.

Agree the Daily Mail is biased, but that is privately (offshore tax haven) owned so has less obligation to be balanced. The thread is supposed to be part entertaining, as you see things through other peoples eyes on how articles are interpreted.

Edited by Hugh Jarse on Tuesday 8th March 13:49

scherzkeks

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Tuesday 8th March 2016
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Most mainstream Western media outlets are owned by or have ties to one of six parent companies in the US. The more the media is consolidated, the greater the problem.

Hugh Jarse

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ahhh just spotted this, so i have edited my posts, to remove the pictures pity!

glazbagun

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Tuesday 8th March 2016
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It's everywhere. Although a lot of people here seem to view the BBC as a lefty mouthpiece, to me it generally seems to pander to whoever is in power at the time.

I liked this from The Sun:


And here's a nice article from the Daily Mail on the plight of the 13000 refugee/migrants stuck at Idomeni whilst the EU struggles to formulate something resembling a plan to cope with the biggest humanitarian crisis to hit Europe since WWII. Or is it an article about how inhuman they are and how there can be no place for them in an enlightened society such as our own? I can't tell for some reason.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3481093/Bl...

And their nice objectve piece on "The Man who Hated Britain", who also happens to be the father of the Leader of the opposition and potential future PM:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2435751/Re...


Edited by glazbagun on Tuesday 8th March 14:15

maxxy5

771 posts

163 months

Tuesday 8th March 2016
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scherzkeks said:
Most mainstream Western media outlets are owned by or have ties to one of six parent companies in the US. The more the media is consolidated, the greater the problem.
Not a very convincing argument in the UK. Outlets that don't fit your model include: Guardian, Daily Mail, Independent, BBC, Daily Express, Telegraph, Daily Star, Evening Standard, Mirror, Metro, Global Radio, Economist, Spectator. Obviously some of those are owned by the same company, but none of them are very American.



Potatoes

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Tuesday 8th March 2016
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The reports on EU, Brexit and the refugee crisis are very telling on which way a publication leans when essentially reporting on the same story.

I have a different perspective living in a small country in mainland Europe where there isn't much spin/opinion within news stories, just the facts. It was eye opening for me that the UK media display such disregard for their reader's intelligence and sway opinion by using click-bait headlines and only providing small pieces of the full picture, often bearing only slight relevance to the actual story.

I'll contribute some of the crazier propaganda headlines when I come across them smile

Hugh Jarse

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Tuesday 8th March 2016
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Good stuff, those last two posts are why we need this thread.
Not to promote a viewpoint, just to hang shame on publications/organisations/"journalists" that are one eyed.
Media should report facts, where possible.
Im living in Sweden where the press decided not to report mass sexual assaults two years running.
That's a very wierd situation, not reporting things for whatever reason and it bothers me a lot more than mass sexual assaults (which bother me significantly).

glazbagun

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Tuesday 8th March 2016
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Potatoes said:
The reports on EU, Brexit and the refugee crisis are very telling on which way a publication leans when essentially reporting on the same story.

I have a different perspective living in a small country in mainland Europe where there isn't much spin/opinion within news stories, just the facts.
Which country? I'm actually toying with moving to mainland Europe. The media is all-pervasive here and 80% of it pisses me right off. The EU ref seems, for instance, to be about if you prefer Boris to Cameron or whether you're comfortable sharing an opinion with Farage or Galloway than any objective in/out examination.