Living in the age of propaganda - your examples please

Living in the age of propaganda - your examples please

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Hugh Jarse

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Saturday 30th April 2016
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KrissKross

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Saturday 30th April 2016
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zygalski said:
UKIP will hold the balance of power after the election
Thats good news.

Hugh Jarse

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Sunday 8th May 2016
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36200591

"trump defies all predictions"

Really, only all her predictions, but plenty of people foresaw him winning.
Six months of inaccurate reporting from Katty Kay.

glazbagun

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197 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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This article will become a famous example I think. Low even for the Daily Mail, though perhaps not a new low:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3567537/...

Edited by glazbagun on Monday 9th May 00:29

Esseesse

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Monday 9th May 2016
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oyster

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248 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Hugh Jarse said:
The UK is known in the world for two fairly biased and popular sites, the BBC (left) & Daily Mail (right).


Edited by Hugh Jarse on Tuesday 8th March 13:46
Any links to confirm your opinion here?

Thought not......

Jockman

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Monday 9th May 2016
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Esseesse said:
I laughed when I picked it up this morning. Still bought it, mind you.

glazbagun

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197 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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It's getting beyond parody now. Every time I watch the news I'm in disbelief at how hopeless it all is. I can't be alone in being completely allergic to this stuff, surely?

I'm probably anti-Brexit in terms of raw self-interest, but the more the Stay campaign pull nonsense like this the more likely I am to vote to leave. Like the Zac Goldsmith/Mail thing you have to wonder who's thinking this nonsense up and how they justify it.

KarlMac

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141 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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5ohmustang said:
Why anyone buys these newspapers I have no idea.
This is kind of the problem, nobody does anymore. Therefore outlets are driven to more polarised opinions to drive page impressions.

Wherever content is free (even here on PH) you see evidence of it.

Hugh Jarse

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Monday 9th May 2016
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oyster said:
Hugh Jarse said:
The UK is known in the world for two fairly biased and popular sites, the BBC (left) & Daily Mail (right).
Any links to confirm your opinion here? Thought not......
Plenty of examples running throughout the thread from both sources, incredibly biased, so how do you justify that statement? Strange.
As even today's posters have noted, the hectoring of info is getting more "eccentric" everyday.
I expect Murdoch/BBC along soon to wipe my arse and spoon feed me.

Mr Whippy

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241 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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glazbagun said:
you have to wonder who's thinking this nonsense up and how they justify it.
Or how this stuff is usually so perfectly achieved, likely at huge cost, yet for brexit it's apparent failure after failure?

Many stories can often go in and it takes you real consideration to realise you may be being dumped, and even so you're still not sure you're not being a tin foil hat nutter.

Yet this stuff hits the bullst meter of even the most unsavvy minded person.


I've a suspicion that this is indeed propaganda on the behalf of 'stay', in that they want the opposite of what their intention is.

Esseesse

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208 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Mr Whippy said:
I've a suspicion that this is indeed propaganda on the behalf of 'stay', in that they want the opposite of what their intention is.
ooo, a twist!

dandarez

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283 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Mr Whippy said:
glazbagun said:
you have to wonder who's thinking this nonsense up and how they justify it.
Or how this stuff is usually so perfectly achieved, likely at huge cost, yet for brexit it's apparent failure after failure?

Many stories can often go in and it takes you real consideration to realise you may be being dumped, and even so you're still not sure you're not being a tin foil hat nutter.

Yet this stuff hits the bullst meter of even the most unsavvy minded person.


I've a suspicion that this is indeed propaganda on the behalf of 'stay', in that they want the opposite of what their intention is.
Personally, I really do think those behind this propaganda think we are all thick. However, you could be right... imagine a brexit a few weeks, months in, and Osborne ups VAT to 25% or even 30%. It's all because we are no longer in the EU. Some will lap it up.

Mr Whippy

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241 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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dandarez said:
Mr Whippy said:
glazbagun said:
you have to wonder who's thinking this nonsense up and how they justify it.
Or how this stuff is usually so perfectly achieved, likely at huge cost, yet for brexit it's apparent failure after failure?

Many stories can often go in and it takes you real consideration to realise you may be being dumped, and even so you're still not sure you're not being a tin foil hat nutter.

Yet this stuff hits the bullst meter of even the most unsavvy minded person.


I've a suspicion that this is indeed propaganda on the behalf of 'stay', in that they want the opposite of what their intention is.
Personally, I really do think those behind this propaganda think we are all thick. However, you could be right... imagine a brexit a few weeks, months in, and Osborne ups VAT to 25% or even 30%. It's all because we are no longer in the EU. Some will lap it up.
After decades of being fed bullst from governments, it just seems too polished a failure from CMD/stay campaign to stack up.

Which leaves you wondering why they want us to leave.

Stay tell us bad things happen if we leave, it's on record. Look.

But stay really want us to leave.

Worrying.

oyster

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Tuesday 10th May 2016
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Hugh Jarse said:
oyster said:
Hugh Jarse said:
The UK is known in the world for two fairly biased and popular sites, the BBC (left) & Daily Mail (right).
Any links to confirm your opinion here? Thought not......
Plenty of examples running throughout the thread from both sources, incredibly biased, so how do you justify that statement? Strange.
As even today's posters have noted, the hectoring of info is getting more "eccentric" everyday.
I expect Murdoch/BBC along soon to wipe my arse and spoon feed me.
In your opening post you made a statement that the UK is known in the world for the BBC and the Daily Mail being biased.

I'm asking if you have any such evidence to show that is known in the world.

boyse7en

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165 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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oyster said:
In your opening post you made a statement that the UK is known in the world for the BBC and the Daily Mail being biased.

I'm asking if you have any such evidence to show that is known in the world.
As far as I'm aware, most of the rest of the world sees the BBC as a fairly un-biased source of news and information (certainly compared with the local news output)

Not sure that the Daily Mail is known around the world as anything at all. I imagine its pretty much unknown outside the UK

ATG

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Tuesday 10th May 2016
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The UK is known for having a biased national broadcaster???? On what planet is that true?

Jockman

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Tuesday 10th May 2016
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boyse7en said:
As far as I'm aware, most of the rest of the world sees the BBC as a fairly un-biased source of news and information (certainly compared with the local news output)

Not sure that the Daily Mail is known around the world as anything at all. I imagine its pretty much unknown outside the UK
Agreed. Should've just stuck to the UK.

Hugh Jarse

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Tuesday 10th May 2016
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boyse7en said:
Not sure that the Daily Mail is known around the world as anything at all.
I imagine its pretty much unknown outside the UK
Imagine harder.
Mail online recently was number 1 news website in the world.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2012/j...

glazbagun

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197 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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boyse7en said:
Not sure that the Daily Mail is known around the world as anything at all. I imagine its pretty much unknown outside the UK
It has has the most-visited website of any newspaper in the English speaking world.