Living in the age of propaganda - your examples please

[ATG]

Hugh Jarse said:

boyse7en said:

Not sure that the Daily Mail is known around the world as anything at all.
I imagine its pretty much unknown outside the UK

Imagine harder.
Mail online recently was number 1 news website in the world.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2012/j...

But (a) it's not associated with the UK and (b) no one thinks it is a serious news source. So it's a bit of a stretch to imagine that anyone would think of the BBC and the Mail online as comparable news sources.

[Jockman]

Hugh Jarse said:

Imagine harder.
Mail online recently was number 1 news website in the world.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2012/j...

I appreciate there is dispute over the figures but even so...wow !!

[Piersman2]

We've lived in the age of propoganda since journalists became repeaters rather than reporters.

Proper investigative reportng seems to have largely died out and the politicians are now able to issue their spin and bullst without it even being cross-checked and verified at even the most basic of levels.

[rscott]

Hugh Jarse said:

boyse7en said:

Not sure that the Daily Mail is known around the world as anything at all.
I imagine its pretty much unknown outside the UK

Imagine harder.
Mail online recently was number 1 news website in the world.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2012/j...

Nope - number 1 English language news website.

Somewhat more recently - http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/oct/21/the-g... .

Interesting to note that the figures are only for desktop usage, so exclude mobile and tablet readers. So not an overly comprehensive set of figures then.

[glazbagun]

Mr Whippy said:

After decades of being fed bullst from governments, it just seems too polished a failure from CMD/stay campaign to stack up.

Which leaves you wondering why they want us to leave.

Stay tell us bad things happen if we leave, it's on record. Look.

But stay really want us to leave.

Worrying.

That occurs to me too- "Brexit will make war in Europe more likely!" sounds anti Brexit, but is so utterly over the top that it must surely be designed to cause people to react negatively to the Stay campaign. That said, the Stay campaign was utterly rubbish in the Indyref, too.

And both sides are being run by the Tories. It's like that film Sleepers where the prosecution is deliberately st in order to fix the result.

Edited by glazbagun on Tuesday 10th May 11:45

[AW111]

glazbagun said:

Like the Zac Goldsmith/Mail thing you have to wonder who's thinking this nonsense up and how they justify it.

The Goldsmith thing was the work of Lynton Crosby, who is an expert at using fear and negativity to deliver election results to whoever is paying him.
Hopefully this failure will reduce his influence.

[Hugh Jarse]

ATG said:

Hugh Jarse said:

boyse7en said:

Not sure that the Daily Mail is known around the world as anything at all.
I imagine its pretty much unknown outside the UK

Imagine harder.
Mail online recently was number 1 news website in the world.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2012/j...

But (a) it's not associated with the UK and (b) no one thinks it is a serious news source.
So it's a bit of a stretch to imagine that anyone would think of the BBC and the Mail online as comparable news sources.

Imagine harder.
Or imagine less and google more.
Daily mail is a UK newspaper published in UK written by UK people since god knows when but you are claiming it is not associated with the UK. JTFC.
The Swedish embassy recently complained to the UK about it which was hilarious.

[Mr Whippy]

glazbagun said:

Mr Whippy said:

After decades of being fed bullst from governments, it just seems too polished a failure from CMD/stay campaign to stack up.

Which leaves you wondering why they want us to leave.

Stay tell us bad things happen if we leave, it's on record. Look.

But stay really want us to leave.

Worrying.

That occurs to me too- "Brexit will make war in Europe more likely!" sounds anti Brexit, but is so utterly over the top that it must surely be designed to cause people to react negatively to the Stay campaign. That said, the Stay campaign was utterly rubbish in the Indyref, too.

And both sides are being run by the Tories. It's like that film Sleepers where the prosecution is deliberately st in order to fix the result.

Edited by glazbagun on Tuesday 10th May 11:45

It's either incompetence or malice, and both are scary conclusions to have to draw

I'm genuinely afraid at this point what our 'dear leaders' have in mind for us, or through incompetence can't avoid leading us towards with ever growing fevour.


I actually sometimes think I'd prefer to live in a quiet corner of Russia, knowing that the politicians lie and the power lays with a corrupt few, than live under the illusion that we don't in the West and actually risk going into what the Russian's managed to escape with glee just a few decades ago!

Dave

[dandarez]

Jockman said:

Hugh Jarse said:

Imagine harder.
Mail online recently was number 1 news website in the world.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2012/j...

I appreciate there is dispute over the figures but even so...wow !!

Why?
There are probably hundreds of visits daily to the Wail website by Pistonheaders alone...

How do I know that?
Because they always apologise for mentioning it! You know, 'Sorry for the Wail link'.

F. laughable!

There are free Lego toys this weekend with the Mail at Smiths and Asda. Lego freaks will be doing everything to hide the paper or refuse it.

God, what a sad world we now live in.

[glazbagun]

Esseesse said:

OK, maybe not quite beyond parody:

http://newsthump.com/2016/04/18/britain-leaving-eu...