Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not! VOL 2

Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not! VOL 2

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Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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jsf said:
I think she was trying to make the point that Blair said he would be PM for the term, then when he saw the impending mess resigned, as did Cameron.
Ah. My apologies.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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Jockman said:
colin_p said:
Best QT for a long time, the audience is the angriest for ages.

Conrad Black the star of the show, by far.
Completely agree. Black has gravitas.
I reckon doing a couple of years inside would make a certain type of person think quite deeply.


Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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Laurel Green said:
I'm liking this Yanis chap.
yes, he always speaks with passion, but with logic and from facts, he comes across as a Spock character, I like him. He was easily the best performer, Black started very well, but then moved into baseless emotion-fuelled drivel. Which is where the Labour woman started, stayed and ended...hmmm, I have seen her before, and OK, I was wrong, she was dire, abysmal and easily the worst one on the panel, several notches below Clark, who himself was an emotion-fuelled non logic generator. UKiPs woman was bearable.
Conrad Black started amazingly, considering who he is, but then lost the plot. Yanis was end to end solid performer, as always. If only more UK sorts could be logical and less completely random, appealing to heart strings.

greygoose

8,278 posts

196 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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Yanis was the best performer by a mile.

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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greygoose said:
Yanis was the best performer by a mile.
Nope. Black.

And, yes, my dad's bigger than your's.

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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desolate said:
Jockman said:
colin_p said:
Best QT for a long time, the audience is the angriest for ages.

Conrad Black the star of the show, by far.
Completely agree. Black has gravitas.
I reckon doing a couple of years inside would make a certain type of person think quite deeply.
It would certainly widen the mind and the behind.

dandarez

13,294 posts

284 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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JawKnee said:
don4l said:
Conrad Black just said
"You British are one of the greatest nations on Earth".

Why on Earth can people like JawKnee and Zod not see that this is true?


I get lambasted when I use the term "traitors".

Go figure!
We are one of the greatest countries on earth. Unfortunately loons like you have significantly weakened our position for decades to come with your petty racism against Europeans.

You should be tried for treason.
...tried for treason?

What, just don4l or all 17,410,742 of us?

What a absolute f. troll loon YOU are! rolleyes

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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greygoose said:
Yanis was the best performer by a mile.
It's always nice to see how composed and eloquent he is, compared to the knobs the UK parties mostly serve up, several notable exceptions of course.

alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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JawKnee said:
We are one of the greatest countries on earth. Unfortunately loons like you have significantly weakened our position for decades to come with your petty racism against Europeans.

You should be tried for treason.
I deleted my initial reply...........have a rofl instead.

Cobnapint

8,636 posts

152 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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Murph7355 said:
renmure said:
...and at the other end of the spectrum Yanis Varoufakis was as sharp as a tack.
I'm not so sure.

I quite like the guy. And have some admiration for the way he handled himself when in office.

And I guess I should also make it abundantly clear that I am in no way against immigration (having worked abroad a fair bit it would be somewhat hypocritical).

But I do smile when politicians make statements like "Greece has been taking in shed loads of immigrants for decades and it's made it a stronger country".

I desperately want to ask "in what way?".

Greece is in the toilet right now. And likely to be for the foreseeable future. Immigrants are unlikely to be the primary cause of this, but it's hard to see how the country could have been any weaker!
Must say, I nearly spat my tea out when he came out with that pearler.

alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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Cobnapint said:
Murph7355 said:
renmure said:
...and at the other end of the spectrum Yanis Varoufakis was as sharp as a tack.
I'm not so sure.

I quite like the guy. And have some admiration for the way he handled himself when in office.

And I guess I should also make it abundantly clear that I am in no way against immigration (having worked abroad a fair bit it would be somewhat hypocritical).

But I do smile when politicians make statements like "Greece has been taking in shed loads of immigrants for decades and it's made it a stronger country".

I desperately want to ask "in what way?".

Greece is in the toilet right now. And likely to be for the foreseeable future. Immigrants are unlikely to be the primary cause of this, but it's hard to see how the country could have been any weaker!
Must say, I nearly spat my tea out when he came out with that pearler.
Was he the one that restructured (or promised to) their EU loans / debts, ran away and the EU raided the Greeks' personal bank accounts? - it's late so realise I may have my wires X'd.

MrNoisy

530 posts

142 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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Yanis...

Speaks like what he is saying carries real clout but actually says very little. Also, he does look the part.

Bottom line is he spends his time campaigning in places like Doncaster, should tell you all you need to know.

Only 'looked' good cause he was surrounded by butt ugly, potty mouthed anglo saxons.....

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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alfie2244 said:
Was he the one that restructured (or promised to) their EU loans / debts, ran away and the EU raided the Greeks' personal bank accounts? - it's late so realise I may have my wires X'd.
Yes, he has spent most of his life in academia, but in 2015 tried his hand in politics.

wiki said:
In January 2015, Varoufakis was appointed as the Minister of Finance, and led negotiation with Greece's creditors during the Greek government-debt crisis. However, he failed to reach an agreement with creditors, leading to the 2015 Greek bailout referendum. The day following the referendum, on 6 July 2015, Varoufakis resigned as Minister of Finance and was replaced by Euclid Tsakalotos. On 24 August, Varoufakis voted against the third bailout package, and in the ensuing September snap election, did not stand for re-election.

B'stard Child

28,454 posts

247 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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Yanis made some good points but also some bad ones and he didn't get the audience

Conrad was interesting - could well be right too

Fat slag was well a fat slag and clueless

UKIP was ukip - she was the other candidate - shows how much notice I take!!!

Clarke - serial politician never gives a straight answer

Overall Conrad - could have been Yanis but your country is fked and so are your 1,000,000 immigrants who may well love Greece having stayed there but are equally as fked

sparkythecat

7,905 posts

256 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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Have Angela Rayner and Andy Burnham ever been seen in the same room ?


hidetheelephants

24,577 posts

194 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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Tonight reinforced very well what I've thought for a while; QT is a stale format which is fundamentally unsuited to addressing big and complex issues like brexit, it swiftly and irretrievably descended into nonsense and bickering in the panel and inchoate bellowing from the audience. DD needs to retire, from this show at any rate.

Ken was Ken, he was never going to accede to Brexit even after the vote and isn't about to change.

Rayner had nothing to say but took a while to get it out.

Duffy was surprisingly non-batst, although the subjects lent themselves to UKIP core policies so perhaps it's not that surprising.

Baldy made some interesting points but you can really tell he's an academic and not a (successful) politician.

Black was nuts; what the hell good is swallowing the exceptionalism Koolaid going to do us going into exit negotiations? Had nothing to offer that made any sense.

As ever This Week was a relative oasis of sanity, even if we did have to put up with Chukka.

Edited by hidetheelephants on Saturday 22 October 13:21

bomb

3,693 posts

285 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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Ganglandboss said:
She is the MP for the neighbouring constituency to the one where I live. I posted a detailed rant about her in the Jeremy Corbyn thread.

A brief summary:

  • Flunked her GCSEs and was knocked-up when she left school.
  • Got a part time job in a care home.
  • Council decides to outsource care provision, so the staff all join unison and push her forward as shop steward.
  • Becomes poster-girl for Unison and is made a full time official.
  • Nominated as the 2015 parliamentary candidate for Ashton-under-Lyne, a town full of dole-bludgers who would vote for a donkey if you paraded it through the flea-market with a red rosette.
  • Corbyn makes her shadow minister for women and equalities.
  • Pat Glass resigns from the shadow education secretary post during the exodus of shadow ministers.
  • Rayner votes confidence in Comrade Corbyn, so she is rewarded with Pat Glass's old job (so now we have a shadow education secretary who failed her f**king GCSEs! rolleyes)
She is a sh*t-thick chav, and it is guaranteed car-crash telly tonight.
That is very worrying indeed. How anybody can think she has sufficient knowledge to hold that position, is beyond me. God help us.

Jinx

11,398 posts

261 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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bomb said:
That is very worrying indeed. How anybody can think she has sufficient knowledge to hold that position, is beyond me. God help us.
For Jeremy it is not about competence it is about obedience (the very old new politics he advocates) .

uk66fastback

16,582 posts

272 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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hidetheelephants said:
Rayner had nothing to say but took a while to get it out.
Great line!

Fittster

20,120 posts

214 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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bomb said:
Ganglandboss said:
She is the MP for the neighbouring constituency to the one where I live. I posted a detailed rant about her in the Jeremy Corbyn thread.

A brief summary:

  • Flunked her GCSEs and was knocked-up when she left school.
  • Got a part time job in a care home.
  • Council decides to outsource care provision, so the staff all join unison and push her forward as shop steward.
  • Becomes poster-girl for Unison and is made a full time official.
  • Nominated as the 2015 parliamentary candidate for Ashton-under-Lyne, a town full of dole-bludgers who would vote for a donkey if you paraded it through the flea-market with a red rosette.
  • Corbyn makes her shadow minister for women and equalities.
  • Pat Glass resigns from the shadow education secretary post during the exodus of shadow ministers.
  • Rayner votes confidence in Comrade Corbyn, so she is rewarded with Pat Glass's old job (so now we have a shadow education secretary who failed her f**king GCSEs! rolleyes)
She is a sh*t-thick chav, and it is guaranteed car-crash telly tonight.
That is very worrying indeed. How anybody can think she has sufficient knowledge to hold that position, is beyond me. God help us.
What knowledge should a minister have to have to hold a brief? For example should the defence secretary have served in the armed services?
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