Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not! VOL 2

Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not! VOL 2

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alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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gizlaroc said:
Once again ///ajd.

These people have genuine concerns and while you call them racist, and say they are being silly and not discussing those concerns you are pushing them into doing something radical. Like?? Oh I don't know? Brexit?

People have been trying to discuss these concerns for a while now, bit the moment they try they get absolute fkwits telling them they're being stupid, that they are racist, that thy are bigots. In the end if no one will discuss it you take what is on offer, Brexit, Trump etc. etc.

It is people like you who have got us where we are now.
Absolute nail on head..the tactic of abusing or belittling people with genuine concerns never worked before and won't in the future either but you carry on 3ajd.....you are probably UKIP's best recruiting sergeant.

Northern Munkee

5,354 posts

201 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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WTF is BBC This Week putting this buffoon on for, a party political broadcast for the people's republic of Islington and Liverpool 'great Labour working class heroes like Jamie Carragher'?

Patrick Bateman

12,189 posts

175 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Ed Balls speaking sense too.

Andy Zarse

10,868 posts

248 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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///ajd said:
What am I thinking being all open minded and tolerant.
Stop it, I can't breathe.

Deptford Draylons

10,480 posts

244 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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///ajd said:
Deptford Draylons said:
///ajd said:
Jimboka said:
Andy Zarse said:
jsf said:
the audience are so much more civilised than last week!
It's not a baying mob and all the more impressive for it. Some very good points being made very well. The primary school teacher has just tee'd up Laurie beautifully.

Edited by Andy Zarse on Thursday 1st December 23:25
id be surprised if he is still a teacher in the near future.
Good point - if he was at my kids school the head and PTA would be getting a stiff letter.

Get that fking intolerant racist "teacher" away from my kids please - I'd rather he didn't fill their heads with nasty bile about the foreign kids at the school, thanks very much.
Given everything is racist to you, it seems with your new tyranny nearly 52% of the country would be out of a job.
You must have used up a whole box of tissues jerking off over Penny adopting your 'its all racism' line.
So you were OK with him complaining about all the foreign parents at his school talking all foreign and being, you know foreign.

I'd be interested to know if they teach foreign langauges at his school. Probably ones he thinks are "acceptable", like French.
It could be several things. First it could be making a point that the school he works is dominated by recent immigrants which is a point of public services.
He also tried to make a point that he thought integration was lacking and that people speaking in groups in the native tongue and not mixing was not going to help things and that the speed and surge in numbers was behind this.
He may be right or wrong. Unlike you though I don't seek to get him sacked for expressing that or reduce it to your trademark ' its all racism' scream.

You used to be rather boring doing this same old tired act over and over along with a few others on PH. Best of all you thought it was the way to secure a Remain referendum vote. Its probably time I said thank you to you all for helping secure a leave vote.

Edited by Deptford Draylons on Friday 2nd December 00:20

B'stard Child

28,441 posts

247 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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///ajd said:
alock said:
///ajd said:
He couldn't answer her question.

"What is it about foreign accents that upsets you?"

No answer. Blah blah, parents get upset about it. Do they really? Upsetting is it?

He sounded a bit racist.
That wasn't her question. She used the word language, not accent.

You sound like the sort of person who hears what you want to hear and present it as fact.
Does that really make a big difference then - language / accent - see post above.

Foreign languages wind you up do they?

Jesus wept. What is wrong with this fking country.
People with attitudes and approaches to discussion like you - frankly

///ajd

8,964 posts

207 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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alock said:
///ajd said:
Does that really make a big difference then - language / accent - see post above.

Foreign languages wind you up do they?

Jesus wept. What is wrong with this fking country.
You are deciding someone is racist because you didn't think he did a very good job of answering a question he wasn't even asked.

There is a massive difference in a class room between everyone speaking English in different accents, and everyone speaking a different language.

You've made a mistake. Your response is to make it worse. Do you really think your contribution makes you appear intelligent?
His point was about foreign languages being spoken between foreign parents.

He was asked how that upset him. He gave an answer that suggested he was just intolerant of it, because.

Do people speaking foreign languages wind you up?




gizlaroc

17,251 posts

225 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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///ajd said:
People like me, not being bothered about parents talking foreign languages.

Yeah, how fckng dare I not descend into a racist rant at the mere sound of a foreigner.

What am I thinking being all open minded and tolerant.

Will we start running "hate classes" in these schools with angry teachers so our kids grow up with the "right mindset"?
You're clueless, absolutely clueless.

Keep shouting racist if it makes you feel better.

Why are other peoples concerns less important than yours?




The family we were with earlier in the year near Bergerac said they moved south from the north of France to make sure their kids went to a school with less English kids in it, and to make sure there were just fewer English people around full stop. They said at the school they were in to start with around 20-25% of the kids were British, and they got a pretty hard time from the French kids. Same with the parents, the French never spoke to them, looked down at them in the playground, blanked them when they said hello etc.

Where they are now they reckon out of 1000 kids at the school there is maybe 10 British families, the kids integrate well and the parents get invited to all the social events by the other parents.

A slow integration can make a huge difference.

That is what the guy was talking about.



Whether you like what people are saying or not is irrelevant, while you don't accept other peoples concerns nothing will change.

dandarez

13,290 posts

284 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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///ajd said:
Andy Zarse said:
That wasn't his point and you bloody well know it. He was talking about the cohesiveness of society.
How the fck wasn't that his point?

That was exactly his point. It was his only corroboration for his point.

Parents at school talking foreign was the driver for his temple throbbing anger & bile.

Should not be near kids.
rolleyes

I bet your wallet has more race cards than credit and debit cards.
I bet my bottom dollar you'd flash one in the street even if you overheard anyone say the word 'foreigner' (even if they were talking about the band!).
NB
I note you are starting to use a tiny bit of foul language of late... is there a reason, stressed a bit, are you losing it, like you lost the referendum?


Watch QT next week, your friend(?) Will Self is on.
Wonder how he will fare against Nigel?
Nigel? I thought he was finished?
Should be fun. If Self turns up, I expect he will ...if only to live up to his name.


Deptford Draylons

10,480 posts

244 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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///ajd said:
What am I thinking being all open minded and tolerant.
Shouting racist at everything or getting people removed from their job for views you disagree with doesn't make you either.

Smiler.

11,752 posts

231 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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gizlaroc said:
///ajd said:
People like me, not being bothered about parents talking foreign languages.

Yeah, how fckng dare I not descend into a racist rant at the mere sound of a foreigner.

What am I thinking being all open minded and tolerant.

Will we start running "hate classes" in these schools with angry teachers so our kids grow up with the "right mindset"?
You're clueless, absolutely clueless.

Keep shouting racist if it makes you feel better.

Why are other peoples concerns less important than yours?




The family we were with earlier in the year near Bergerac said they moved south from the north of France to make sure their kids went to a school with less English kids in it, and to make sure there were just fewer English people around full stop. They said at the school they were in to start with around 20-25% of the kids were British, and they got a pretty hard time from the French kids. Same with the parents, the French never spoke to them, looked down at them in the playground, blanked them when they said hello etc.

Where they are now they reckon out of 1000 kids at the school there is maybe 10 British families, the kids integrate well and the parents get invited to all the social events by the other parents.

A slow integration can make a huge difference.

That is what the guy was talking about.



Whether you like what people are saying or not is irrelevant, while you don't accept other peoples concerns nothing will change.
You're wasting your time. He/she's confused "won't somebody please think of the children" with "won't somebody please think like the children".

Tragic really.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

225 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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Deptford Draylons said:
///ajd said:
What am I thinking being all open minded and tolerant.
Shouting racist at everything or getting people removed from their job for views you disagree with doesn't make you either.
He could be a Viz character.

Billy "Why isn't everyone's view the same as mine? The f**kwits!!" Bigot.



Edited by gizlaroc on Friday 2nd December 00:16

brenflys777

2,678 posts

178 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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Patrick Bateman said:
Ed Balls speaking sense too.
Some people panic about 2016 because of its tendency to surprise. BREXIT, Trump, Bowie etc

Personally, I don't think I've ever been more confused by life than finding myself agreeing with Ed Balls and Portillo sat on the same sofa. Two people I cheered upon losing their seats as I felt they had no understanding of their electorate. Balls has to be putting it on....

///ajd

8,964 posts

207 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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BIANCO said:
You think that it's immoral and uncaring to tell illegal jobless immigrants to do one and go home. But totally fine with massively messing up someone's life and getting them sacked from there job because he brings up concerns about social cohesion and integration?
So the parents at his school are illegal jobless immigrants are they?

All of them?

He certainly talked about them as if he'd just trodden in them, but you never know, they might even be nice people with jobs.

I'm sure the school & its community will be much more cohesive in the morning after his little rant.





gizlaroc

17,251 posts

225 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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///ajd said:
So the parents at his school are illegal jobless immigrants are they?

All of them?

He certainly talked about them as if he'd just trodden in them, but you never know, they might even be nice people with jobs.

I'm sure the school & its community will be much more cohesive in the morning after his little rant.


Hahaha, jesus wept!!

You've flipped. You have well and truly lost it.



brenflys777

2,678 posts

178 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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///ajd said:
So the parents at his school are illegal jobless immigrants are they?

All of them?

He certainly talked about them as if he'd just trodden in them, but you never know, they might even be nice people with jobs.

I'm sure the school & its community will be much more cohesive in the morning after his little rant.


I wonder how much of your opinion is influenced by him being a white male, with a bald head and a Northern accent?



alock

4,228 posts

212 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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///ajd said:
Do people speaking foreign languages wind you up?
My first reply to you was referencing that you heard something different to what was said. You've done it again in reading my posts.

Can I suggest you slow down and try and understand what other people are actually saying.

To answer your question, I do have a problem if a teacher cannot do their job to a satisfactory level due to being unable to communicate with some children in their class.

I'm assuming you are going to misread the above and just call me racist.

alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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brenflys777 said:
I wonder how much of your opinion is influenced by him being a white male, with a bald head and a Northern accent?

nah not 3djg...that would make him 3ist.

B'stard Child

28,441 posts

247 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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alock said:
///ajd said:
Do people speaking foreign languages wind you up?
My first reply to you was referencing that you heard something different to what was said. You've done it again in reading my posts.

Can I suggest you slow down and try and understand what other people are actually saying.

To answer your question, I do have a problem if a teacher cannot do their job to a satisfactory level due to being unable to communicate with some children in their class.

I'm assuming you are going to misread the above and just call me racist.
No he's not going to misread it - he's going to edit your post and then quote it to prove you are racist and he'll do it in really subtle way so it's hardly noticeable to anyone else



///ajd

8,964 posts

207 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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brenflys777 said:
///ajd said:
So the parents at his school are illegal jobless immigrants are they?

All of them?

He certainly talked about them as if he'd just trodden in them, but you never know, they might even be nice people with jobs.

I'm sure the school & its community will be much more cohesive in the morning after his little rant.


I wonder how much of your opinion is influenced by him being a white male, with a bald head and a Northern accent?

My opinion of him is based entirely on how he said he didn't like foreign parents speaking in a foreign language.

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