Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not! VOL 2

[castex]

Wow, good effort Louise Mensch.

[Jockman]

johnfm said:

At Mensch??

Jeez, you need to lift your standards. She's neither particularly attractive nor particularly bright. A good 7/10 on both counts.

Who else would you choose on the panel?

[johnfm]

Why, when the NHS issue arises, does nobody ever suggest limiting some services.

Sure, it might need some more money - but it needs to look at scope creep.

[Digger]

johnfm said:

Is Self high?

About 6'2" iirc

[Robbo66]

johnfm said:

Is Self high?

He'd go down well on S9

[Hainey]

Jockman said:

Hainey said:

Is there a figure for the cost of treating health tourists in the NHS?

There was a discussion on R4. The official line was circa £250m. Another view was up to £2bn.

Thanks. Not exactly pocket change either way.

[Digger]

Complain about Self? Pete Doherty on This Week!

[mybrainhurts]

Funkycoldribena said:

mybrainhurts said:

Adolf Hitler...Time Magazine Man of the year 1938.

You.
Time magazine man of the year 2006.

True, but I'm still waiting for my bloody Mars Bar...

[Jockman]

Hainey said:

Jockman said:

Hainey said:

Is there a figure for the cost of treating health tourists in the NHS?

There was a discussion on R4. The official line was circa £250m. Another view was up to £2bn.

Thanks. Not exactly pocket change either way.

The first figure is but the second isn't hence the official refusal to accept it. Good discussion on pregnant women coming over when 6 months pregnant knowing that no airliner will fly them back once they hit 8 months. Eye opening stuff. Think Humphris was doing the interview??

[castex]

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

castex said:

I'm not clear what you mean by "butis undeliverable". Reading between the lines I would venture that we're heading for a reckoning, and what Self is suggesting is the better way to work through it.

Self fancies some kind of Utopia. oooooorrrrr he just likes sounding controversial ?




Pick one

I'll pick a third option, thanks: he wants things to improve. Quite a lot of us want that.

[whoami]

Deptford Draylons said:

Richard Burgon will embarrass Labour, if that's even still possible to do given what is normal for them these days.

He did.

Also, he sounds like Jimmy Savile.

Which is greatly unappealing.

[4sure]

Legs time lol.

[whoami]

castex said:

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

castex said:

I'm not clear what you mean by "butis undeliverable". Reading between the lines I would venture that we're heading for a reckoning, and what Self is suggesting is the better way to work through it.

Self fancies some kind of Utopia. oooooorrrrr he just likes sounding controversial ?




Pick one

I'll pick a third option, thanks: he wants things to improve. Quite a lot of us want that.

Like everyone else then?

[Jockman]

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

I am sure, for example, he has not a jot of tax efficiency in his 'Limited company' of Self.

Why would an idividual run as a limited company in journalism ?

Aaaaaand just like that , and credibility (for me at least) is sacrificed.

Don't they all do that? Naga Munchetty ltd?

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/0660305...

[johnfm]

castex said:

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

castex said:

I'm not clear what you mean by "butis undeliverable". Reading between the lines I would venture that we're heading for a reckoning, and what Self is suggesting is the better way to work through it.

Self fancies some kind of Utopia. oooooorrrrr he just likes sounding controversial ?




Pick one

I'll pick a third option, thanks: he wants things to improve. Quite a lot of us want that.

His views are naive and ill informed. He clearly had no idea of McDonalds moving their tax base to the UK - "cleverly" trying to suggest that we don't jobs in burger bars - not realising that the issue was where they would pay tax.

He clearly has no idea of which sector of taxpayer already pays the rump of income tax receipts and seems to not understand that attracting more businesses to teh UK with a lower rate of CT would generate more revenue.

He's not just a bore, but a bore without much of a clue about how economies work.

[Cobnapint]

4sure said:

Legs time lol.

And Cleggs missus time too. Shame she talks as much bks as her old man.

[williamp]

Blimey.Pete Docherty. With grey hair and no guitar. Might be worth watching...??

[castex]

I wonder how many of you have read Self's writing. He comes across as awkward onscreen - no doubt due to the mentioned serious problems with illicit substances. On the page he's quite convincing and once you get to grips with the brain, performances like tonight's kind of fit and one makes allowances because he's brilliant.
I'm sorry, I don't know anything about his tax payments.
He's in no way the gift-wrapped answer to the world's problems, but he is asking the right questions. His voice is sorely needed on a QT panel like tonight's.

[alock]

castex said:

He's in no way the gift-wrapped answer to the world's problems, but he is asking the right questions.

He said we didn't want burger flipping jobs in the UK as a result of the comment about McDonald's moving their tax office here.

How can someone with that thought process provide any sensible input to discussions on the economy? He's an idiot pretending to be clever to people who cannot think for themselves.

[johnfm]

castex said:

I wonder how many of you have read Self's writing. He comes across as awkward onscreen - no doubt due to the mentioned serious problems with illicit substances. On the page he's quite convincing and once you get to grips with the brain, performances like tonight's kind of fit and one makes allowances because he's brilliant.
I'm sorry, I don't know anything about his tax payments.
He's in no way the gift-wrapped answer to the world's problems, but he is asking the right questions. His voice is sorely needed on a QT panel like tonight's.

Anybody can say "let's raise taxes to pay for the NHS/welfare" because "it would be better" - without any analysis or thought of outcomes, how to achieve the actual improvement (and not just achieve the virtue signal).