Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not! VOL 2

[Blackpuddin]

techiedave said:

Whose thuis fella in the white hair with the blue shirt on

That's David Bumblebee.

[anonymous-user]

Blackpuddin said:

techiedave said:

Whose thuis fella in the white hair with the blue shirt on

That's David Bumblebee.

I mean growler at the end you fool

christ you'd think the woman with the milk question ad washed her hair in it

[Welshbeef]

techiedave said:

Blackpuddin said:

techiedave said:

Whose thuis fella in the white hair with the blue shirt on

That's David Bumblebee.

I mean growler at the end you fool

christ you'd think the woman with the milk question ad washed her hair in it

She (lesbian I think) is a crime novelist

[GG89]

Apparently SNP fired an email out to their members to apply to be on QT. Haven't seen proof but wouldn't surprise me one bit, There's a massive amount of smoke and mirrors when it comes to the cult of stupid.

[hidetheelephants]

Bloody hellfire, no This Week; Brillo's hardly on the telly now, since he got married he's off on holiday half the time.

[anonymous-user]

Murph7355 said:

pingu393 said:

A problem with procurement is when the numbers are outside of a normal person's comprehension.

If a project is charged out at £220M, who is to say it's not really £219M or £221M. A small percentage difference, but a new swimming pool for someone .

I was heard of a project where they had a massive discussion about a £5,000 bike shed, but just signed off £60M on the nod.

This sort of anecdote is not uncommon but ime of running large scale programmes is never truly on the money.

Decisions can sometimes seem to have been made "on a nod" but on well run works there will have been plenty of input ahead of a serious decision. Unless the large number remains preliminary and the approval is merely to progress to the next stage of clarification.

Your 5k bike shed scenario would typically be out of scope items. Which may or may not be worthy of debate depending on many factors.

I've been involved in programmes where really bad decisions have been made, but they've never truly been done on a whim.

A lot depends on management whim or understanding/lack of - as an example a project I ran a few years ago was consolidating from multiple (25+) payroll vendors to a single master vendor. The project cost was minimal, under $2m for the consolidated solution vs just over $2m for multiple vendors, the payroll was over $1bn. Where we had piloted single vendors in much smaller areas we were already making over $2m in savings on tax management alone, the projected annual saving was c $5-10m just in more effective tax management.

However all the head of the business could talk about was if the new solution would be $1.8m or $1.85m - madness

[dcb]

skahigh said:

This suggests to me a far greater sense of nationalism and self-obsession within Scotland than anywhere else in the UK.

Indeed. It's about 400 miles by car from London to Glasgow.
About 90% of Scots live in the Central Belt.

For London, all of Amsterdam, Dusseldorf, Luxembourg and Paris are
closer than Glasgow.

For me, I am happy if the Scots want devolution and so to paddle their own canoe.
Affluent parts of the UK will stop sending money up there, as per the the Barnett formula.

I think it would interesting to find out how long the Scots could survive
without the English money to keep them afloat.

[brenflys777]

I avoided watching QT last night because I thought it'd be a bit myopic, but gave it a go at 3am as I was up with vomiting children. I managed until about 10 minutes in.

I just can't get my head around how the Scottish Independents (whose goal like much of England, I support) think that independence from England is worth subjugation by the EU. Show some balls, either campaign for an independent self supporting country or just admit it's about hating England not wanting independence.

Edited by brenflys777 on Friday 17th February 09:16

[motco]

techiedave said:

Norfolkit said:

techiedave said:

Shami looking sort of hot with her Liza Minelli in Cabaret/ Servalan In Blake's 7 look.

I'm ashamed to admit I agree with you.

Don't be ashamed embrace the urges. I do and I haven't looked back.
It's the way she coyly looks to either side of her reminds me of a dog that knows it shouldn't have shat on the carpet but hopes you haven't noticed.
But watch out as I think the way Dimbo was fawning over calling her baroness there may be a queue to look up her (legal) briefs.

I always used to both respect her integrity and fancy her too, but since she sold her soul to Corbyn I don't think I could even manage half-lob for her poisonous aperture, let alone rise properly to the occasion.

[The Don of Croy]

motco said:

techiedave said:

Norfolkit said:

techiedave said:

Shami looking sort of hot with her Liza Minelli in Cabaret/ Servalan In Blake's 7 look.

I'm ashamed to admit I agree with you.

Don't be ashamed embrace the urges. I do and I haven't looked back.
It's the way she coyly looks to either side of her reminds me of a dog that knows it shouldn't have shat on the carpet but hopes you haven't noticed.
But watch out as I think the way Dimbo was fawning over calling her baroness there may be a queue to look up her (legal) briefs.

I always used to both respect her integrity and fancy her too, but since she sold her soul to Corbyn I don't think I could even manage half-lob for her poisonous aperture, let alone rise properly to the occasion.

Agree with above - what little I'd seen of her before somehow coddled my thinking.

Since she's been Corbynned she's just another do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do type who sounds more and more like some annoying year 11 politics student eager to impress the thicko's in the year below.

I don't know the Swinney bloke at all, but watching and listening it seems he's been well drilled to mouth platitudes and present a calm face. So he's a modern politico and thus nothing like what he appears...

[Norfolkit]

brenflys777 said:

I avoided watching QT last night because I thought it'd be a bit myopic, but gave it a go at 3am as I was up with vomiting children.

Edited by brenflys777 on Friday 17th February 09:16

I would have thought Peppa Pig would be better choice!

[Europa1]

hidetheelephants said:

jsf said:

The EU wouldn't allow Scotland to join.

When are these idiots going to get that one?

There was a deafening silence after the comment that Scotland's GDP is on a par with Portugal, as telling the populace they would have to swallow that magnitude of a economic shrinkage to go it alone or contemplate meeting the Copenhagen criteria would result in electoral meltdown for whoever was stupid enough to propose it.

I have to say, I do not understand Nicola Sturgeon's urge to lash Scotland's small, less than robust economy to another bunch of ropey economies all reliant on Germany.

[mybrainhurts]

dcb said:

skahigh said:

This suggests to me a far greater sense of nationalism and self-obsession within Scotland than anywhere else in the UK.

Indeed. It's about 400 miles by car from London to Glasgow.
About 90% of Scots live in the Central Belt.

For London, all of Amsterdam, Dusseldorf, Luxembourg and Paris are
closer than Glasgow.

For me, I am happy if the Scots want devolution and so to paddle their own canoe.
Affluent parts of the UK will stop sending money up there, as per the the Barnett formula.

I think it would interesting to find out how long the Scots could survive
without the English money to keep them afloat.

From memory, I think Alex was set for an Axis of Wealth with Iceland. And North Korea...

[brenflys777]

Norfolkit said:

brenflys777 said:

I avoided watching QT last night because I thought it'd be a bit myopic, but gave it a go at 3am as I was up with vomiting children.

Edited by brenflys777 on Friday 17th February 09:16

I would have thought Peppa Pig would be better choice!

I did shout "Dinosauuuur!" at the SNP chap....

[fluffnik]

hidetheelephants said:

There was a deafening silence after the comment that Scotland's GDP is on a par with Portugal

Same GDP, half the population == twice the GDP/head

[Strocky]

fluffnik said:

hidetheelephants said:

There was a deafening silence after the comment that Scotland's GDP is on a par with Portugal

Same GDP, half the population == twice the GDP/head

Reminds me of the time Dugdale & Better Together argued at a Indy for Woman event that Scotland was poorer than Pakistan by confusing GDP with turnover

[technodup]

fluffnik said:

Same GDP, half the population == twice the GDP/head

Yet still a huge deficit.

[Welshbeef]

technodup said:

fluffnik said:

Same GDP, half the population == twice the GDP/head

Yet still a huge deficit.

And that's the rub of it half the population should mean have the state support but no not at all vastly spending more than Portugal way more than 2x per head why?

[anonymous-user]

Welshbeef said:

And that's the rub of it half the population should mean have the state support but no not at all vastly spending more than Portugal way more than 2x per head why?

It's this sort of quality political discourse that makes PH such a valuable resource.

[alfie2244]

Welshbeef said:

And that's the rub of it half the population should mean have the state support but no not at all vastly spending more than Portugal way more than 2x per head why?

Why indeed?