Carjacking caught live on camera in the MIdlands
Discussion
greygoose said:
superkartracer said:
http://news.sky.com/story/1660037/pillion-passenge...
^^ thats the sort of s
te people in the UK are now having to deal with , wrong place/time round in the head... delightful.
To be fair the chances of being shot at by some random person on the street are fairly remote in the UK. ^^ thats the sort of s
te people in the UK are now having to deal with , wrong place/time round in the head... delightful.Not so sure.
superkartracer said:
greygoose said:
superkartracer said:
http://news.sky.com/story/1660037/pillion-passenge...
^^ thats the sort of ste people in the UK are now having to deal with , wrong place/time round in the head... delightful.
To be fair the chances of being shot at by some random person on the street are fairly remote in the UK. ^^ thats the sort of s
te people in the UK are now having to deal with , wrong place/time round in the head... delightful.Not so sure.
brushdaft said:
xjay1337 said:
There is an aftermarket system. I forgot the code but basically if you open and shut the door after a short while ~(30 seconds) it will start beeping giving you another minute to enter a code on a touch pad.
Saw it in some video in America, tried to look but can't find it now.
Clifford Backjax?Saw it in some video in America, tried to look but can't find it now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBFSFdMFThI
Remember the ghetto homie OG review.
greygoose said:
superkartracer said:
greygoose said:
superkartracer said:
http://news.sky.com/story/1660037/pillion-passenge...
^^ thats the sort of ste people in the UK are now having to deal with , wrong place/time round in the head... delightful.
To be fair the chances of being shot at by some random person on the street are fairly remote in the UK. ^^ thats the sort of s
te people in the UK are now having to deal with , wrong place/time round in the head... delightful.Not so sure.
superkartracer said:
But 760 sustained injuries ? , 10 years ago i don't remember any ( maybe a few ) , expect it to get far worse .
But outwith the riots a few years back, and gang/drug-related violence, gun-related crime is still vanishingly rare. It is still a happy fact of life in the UK that one can go an entire lifetime without ever seeing a firearm, aside from airport security and the guards outside Buckingham Palace.If you look at the figures, the gun crime seen in London is primarily focused around gang related areas and at gang members. Sadly, innocent people will inevitably be caught [literally] in the crossfire however ultimately there are a small number of concentrated areas in London that suffer from gun crime and it is certainly not the epidemic that article would have you believe.
MrBarry123 said:
If you look at the figures, the gun crime seen in London is primarily focused around gang related areas and at gang members. Sadly, innocent people will inevitably be caught [literally] in the crossfire however ultimately there are a small number of concentrated areas in London that suffer from gun crime and it is certainly not the epidemic that article would have you believe.
I lived in Whalley Range in Manchester in the late 80s/ early 90s when there were regular shootings and knifings in neighbouring Moss Side, which I passed through each day on the way to college. Never saw a thing. You have to be in exactly the wrong place at exactly the wrong time to witness or get caught up in it.deckster said:
superkartracer said:
But 760 sustained injuries ? , 10 years ago i don't remember any ( maybe a few ) , expect it to get far worse .
vanishingly rare.OCT 8 - Nineteen-year-old student Connor Smith shot dead and left in a Kings Norton street. Friends raise £2k to help pay for his funeral.
OCT 10 - Two days later bullets are sprayed through the open doors of a Costcutter convenience store leaving four men with leg wounds.
OCT 16 - Less than a week passed before a 32-year-old man is left with gun shot wounds to his leg and buttock in Falcon Lodge in Sutton Coldfield.
OCT 30 - Derek Junior Myers, known to friends as Trench is shot dead aged 25 in Soho Hill, on the border of Hockley and Handsworth. Another victim is also injured in the attack and is left in critical condition.
NOV 2 - A man and a woman suffer gun shot wounds to their legs in a violent attack in an Erdington cul-de-sac.
West-midlands 2015 over a single month ( these are the reported cases ) .
I totally agree that the best course of action would be to do nothing. I fear however, that in the heat of the moment, and with a sturdy car key in my hand, I would have repeatedly punch them in the face, eyes, teeth, neck, etc, with my car key, causing horrific injuries, and then God knows what trouble I'd end up in thereafter.
greygoose said:
29 deaths by shooting in three and a half years for a city of 8.6 million isn't that bad. As long as you don't stand next to drug dealers in dodgy neighbourhoods in your spare time then the chances of being shot are pretty low.
It's not just gang members killing other gang membershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzNjB4olRlU
Username888 said:
how does that young mans family ever come to terms with that. two nice young lads that looked likely to become productive members of society stabbed by some random piece of scum not fit to breathe the same air as them. 15 years for the knife man and 5 years each for the others that were perfectly happy to carry out an assault on two random young lads that never even knew them. i appreciate this is an extreme case, but at this extreme end i believe there should be extreme punishment ,and 15 years is no where near extreme enough for taking such a young life in such a manner.
wc98 said:
Username888 said:
how does that young mans family ever come to terms with that. two nice young lads that looked likely to become productive members of society stabbed by some random piece of scum not fit to breathe the same air as them. 15 years for the knife man and 5 years each for the others that were perfectly happy to carry out an assault on two random young lads that never even knew them. i appreciate this is an extreme case, but at this extreme end i believe there should be extreme punishment ,and 15 years is no where near extreme enough for taking such a young life in such a manner.
The two pieces of s
t with him got 5 years, which is a fking joke. Do nothing more than go down the road this afternoon at a three-figure speed and see what the court dishes out.wc98 said:
Username888 said:
how does that young mans family ever come to terms with that. two nice young lads that looked likely to become productive members of society stabbed by some random piece of scum not fit to breathe the same air as them. 15 years for the knife man and 5 years each for the others that were perfectly happy to carry out an assault on two random young lads that never even knew them. i appreciate this is an extreme case, but at this extreme end i believe there should be extreme punishment ,and 15 years is no where near extreme enough for taking such a young life in such a manner.
Two gents minding their own business, life taken within the blink of an eye. My only words - why?
Mr Trophy said:
Two gents minding their own business, life taken within the blink of an eye. My only words - why?
Depressingly common (although generally not so serious) according to my mate in the police, even down to the point that when a known, local bd with that sort of MO is out of jail, they know there will be a sudden upsurge in unprovoked assaults. IMHO this type of town centre, unprovoked attack is not treated seriously enough. As was clear from the video clip, the people who carry out these sorts of crimes are clearly criminal to the core.greygoose said:
superkartracer said:
But 760 sustained injuries ? , 10 years ago i don't remember any ( maybe a few ) , expect it to get far worse .
From ONS stats the picture is better than the media suggests with gun crimes dropping over the last ten years for England and Wales.
I reckon numbers are a lie , the real numbers are the constant news regards shootings/stabbings weekly ( see above ) .
superkartracer said:
Link URL has an odd scan; LIVE>18>year>old>shot>dead (Well a dead 18 year old cannot be shot dead.)St Mark's Crescent is a bit close for comfort to the civilised bit of the Broad Street area. Have a friend who lives there.
Digga said:
The average, law abiding citizen seems to see only two sides to the law these days;
This is spot on. The problem is that the real criminals simply aren't dealt with properly and it's beginning to feel like vigilantism is the only way to get justice. Even clear CCTV evidence, fingerprints etc. weren't enough for the police to be bothered with repeated theft from a friend's garage (business) last year...even when there was a clear suspect.- Being on the wrong end of it for a minor traffic infringement, dealt out by an automated system
- Being the victim of a crime where the police barely seem to care
Re. carjacking, assaults etc., unfortunately unless you've been in some interesting situations before, you just don't know how you'll react.
Clivey said:
Digga said:
The average, law abiding citizen seems to see only two sides to the law these days;
This is spot on. The problem is that the real criminals simply aren't dealt with properly and it's beginning to feel like vigilantism is the only way to get justice. Even clear CCTV evidence, fingerprints etc. weren't enough for the police to be bothered with repeated theft from a friend's garage (business) last year...even when there was a clear suspect.- Being on the wrong end of it for a minor traffic infringement, dealt out by an automated system
- Being the victim of a crime where the police barely seem to care
Re. carjacking, assaults etc., unfortunately unless you've been in some interesting situations before, you just don't know how you'll react.
On Sunday I was the victim of a wheel theft attempt.They couldn't find the locking nut key but in their search chucked everything out of the window onto the street in the pissing rain. Gendarmerie couldn't care less despite 7 other reports on our street of the same activity. They just wrote a form and said to me to give it to my insurance.
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