Government defeated in the Lords re refugee children.

Government defeated in the Lords re refugee children.

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Wobbegong

15,077 posts

169 months

Monday 10th October 2016
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grumbledoak said:
irocfan said:
Well hopefully we won't go down the Swedish route and accept 30 year old as kids....
You think they'll have papers or be honest?

I'm looking forward to next year's primary school sports day already!
Think of the medal haul at the pre-school olympics hehe


pim

2,344 posts

124 months

Monday 10th October 2016
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Wy is this a U turn helping refugee children?

Is the answer just let them be abused or get lost in the system.You can't blame children for what adults decide to do whatever nationality they are.

Nice to see a Tory Prime Minister deciding to go the humane route.

4x4Tyke

6,506 posts

132 months

Monday 10th October 2016
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pim said:
Wy is this a U turn helping refugee children?
Because last week Rudd called foreigners undesirables that must be registered.

greygoose

8,262 posts

195 months

Monday 10th October 2016
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pim said:
Wy is this a U turn helping refugee children?

Is the answer just let them be abused or get lost in the system.You can't blame children for what adults decide to do whatever nationality they are.

Nice to see a Tory Prime Minister deciding to go the humane route.
It was done under the last PM when she was Home Sec just not publicised.

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

170 months

Monday 10th October 2016
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pim said:
Wy is this a U turn helping refugee children?

Is the answer just let them be abused or get lost in the system.You can't blame children for what adults decide to do whatever nationality they are.

Nice to see a Tory Prime Minister deciding to go the humane route.
They're in France - a safe rich developed country, why should France be allowed to abdicate their responsibility? France should be protecting these children. It isn't our problem. And all this will do is encourage more children to be abandoned or sent. The parents/relatives will then miraculously reappear and also be granted entry no doubt. Yes someone has to do something, but not us. Why is no one kicking up a stink about the French leaving them in that environment?

Digga

40,324 posts

283 months

Tuesday 11th October 2016
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I think we do have a duty to take our share of (genuine) refugess. It is what the UK has always done, Vietnam, Uganda etc. etc. we have always done what I consider to be the right, human thing. This, I would add, is a markedly different issue to having open doors to any and every economic migrants and, furthermore, requires that our border agencies check all entrants and weed out the criminals.

Right now, across the EU, we seem to be failing, but at least some of the refugees are helping: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/10/germ...

grumbledoak

31,535 posts

233 months

Tuesday 11th October 2016
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If you accept that refugees should stop in the first safe country then the only genuine refugees here are the French fleeing Hollande.

Digga

40,324 posts

283 months

Tuesday 11th October 2016
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grumbledoak said:
If you accept that refugees should stop in the first safe country then the only genuine refugees here are the French fleeing Hollande.
I don't really accept that, because the Southern and Eastern (often least able to cope) nations would be swamped. This crisis is new and we have to develop suitable ways of dealing with it. We also need to better filter the economic migrants from the genuine - and just look at what's going on in Syria right now - refugees. And we most definitely need to better filter out the criminals and terrorists that no one, us nor the refugees and migrants, want in the EU.