EU Referendum - decided how to vote yet?
Poll: EU Referendum - decided how to vote yet?
Total Members Polled: 270
Discussion
irocfan said:
V88Dicky said:
My mind was made up years ago, and nothing has materialised since to change it.
My resolve has only strengthened in the last 20 years or so
this ^^^My resolve has only strengthened in the last 20 years or so
And I'm fairly sure the result will be "remain", even if it isn't, if you get my drift.
Interesting. I'm old enough to have voted in the last EEC referendum, where I voted yes, no mention of a federal Europe then.
I am genuinely conflicted now, and the various arguments seem all fear based, which I find unconvincing.
Assuming I can't decide myself, I'll ask my kids how they are voting, and do the same, they'll be around longer than me to live with their decisions....
I am genuinely conflicted now, and the various arguments seem all fear based, which I find unconvincing.
Assuming I can't decide myself, I'll ask my kids how they are voting, and do the same, they'll be around longer than me to live with their decisions....
eldar said:
Assuming I can't decide myself, I'll ask my kids how they are voting, and do the same, they'll be around longer than me to live with their decisions....
Sorry, but I think this is just wrong. If you can't decide, abstain. Giving your children more than one vote effectively, whichever way it is, just seems profoundly undemocratic to me.I'm voting out. It will be the only opportunity to get out, I figure that living in a Country dictated to by unelected faceless beauracy is not for me. I'm to old to be further overly affected if we stay in and my considerations for my son daughter grandson is that if they want a better life they will nip over to New Zealand.
Still undecided. Though like the Scottish referendum, I think I'm going to vote for the side which posts the least bullst.
My original plan was to vote in the best interests of the country. When the campaigns/media did their utmost to make it impossible to impartially balance the cases then I decided to vote in my own raw self interest. But I can't find enough info on that, either. So I'm just going to vote against the side which posts the least amount of obvious bullst.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/2e43b3e8-01c7-11e6-ac98-...
My original plan was to vote in the best interests of the country. When the campaigns/media did their utmost to make it impossible to impartially balance the cases then I decided to vote in my own raw self interest. But I can't find enough info on that, either. So I'm just going to vote against the side which posts the least amount of obvious bullst.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/2e43b3e8-01c7-11e6-ac98-...
Einion Yrth said:
Sorry, but I think this is just wrong. If you can't decide, abstain. Giving your children more than one vote effectively, whichever way it is, just seems profoundly undemocratic to me.
I agree with Eldar. Only problem is one child is in, the other out, so I am no further forward. I might toss a coin.crankedup said:
I'm voting out. It will be the only opportunity to get out, I figure that living in a Country dictated to by unelected faceless beauracy is not for me. I'm to old to be further overly affected if we stay in and my considerations for my son daughter grandson is that if they want a better life they will nip over to New Zealand.
Which is what I done 11 years ago.Apparently I can still register and vote (15 years is the cut-off). I really think the UK needs to leave Europe, its a basket case politically, they can have solid trade treaties like before , business wont be hurt.
I'll refrain from voting though as it isnt now my problem...
I voted stay in the 75 Referendum.
Been married a year and why not, all hunky dory, the press and media told me so. We are part of a lovey-dovey group, a common market with just 9 other members. What could possibly go wrong?
Here's the st I read at the time!
http://www.harvard-digital.co.uk/euro/pamphlet.htm
I even, god forgive, voted Bliar in 97.
He was young, had the vitality, all hunky dory, the press, the media told me so.
The future was nothing but bright. Too true, blinded by the light!
However, if experience teaches you something it is this: Never make the same mistake twice!
It's really easy to be wrong first time around, the bullst comes thick and fast especially from the vested interests who invariably have the mouthpiece (ie: the money! the thing that usually does the talking).
Take note younger PHs.
Remember, some of us have been there, done it, then regretted it later.
Still, they do say to experience life you have to learn the hard way.
Worth reading this from 10 years ago if you wonder what it was like for me back in 1975 making the decision to put the cross in the box. Lying barstewards across the media, just like today.
http://www.vernoncoleman.com/howthebritishmedia.ht...
I'll end on an OUT note... to the EU,
Been married a year and why not, all hunky dory, the press and media told me so. We are part of a lovey-dovey group, a common market with just 9 other members. What could possibly go wrong?
Here's the st I read at the time!
http://www.harvard-digital.co.uk/euro/pamphlet.htm
I even, god forgive, voted Bliar in 97.
He was young, had the vitality, all hunky dory, the press, the media told me so.
The future was nothing but bright. Too true, blinded by the light!
However, if experience teaches you something it is this: Never make the same mistake twice!
It's really easy to be wrong first time around, the bullst comes thick and fast especially from the vested interests who invariably have the mouthpiece (ie: the money! the thing that usually does the talking).
Take note younger PHs.
Remember, some of us have been there, done it, then regretted it later.
Still, they do say to experience life you have to learn the hard way.
Worth reading this from 10 years ago if you wonder what it was like for me back in 1975 making the decision to put the cross in the box. Lying barstewards across the media, just like today.
http://www.vernoncoleman.com/howthebritishmedia.ht...
I'll end on an OUT note... to the EU,
I have to say that at one point recently I was still undecided. The continual scaremongering from politicians, industry, Obama and all the others who have vested interests in us remaining in the EU has, however, finally confirmed what I thought all along - it just has to be OUT so that we can retain at least some proper control over our destiny.
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