Red Ken suspended
Discussion
Halb said:
glazbagun said:
I thought his reference to the Nazi's in 1932 was a bit odd, but as far as I am aware, the Nazi's were in favour of resettling the Jews
Ken was totally correct.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Transfer_Agreeme...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement
"The Haavara Agreement (Hebrew: ???? ????? Translit.: heskem haavara Translated: "transfer agreement") was an agreement between Nazi Germany and Zionist German Jews signed on 25 August 1933. The agreement was finalized after three months of talks by the Zionist Federation of Germany, the Anglo-Palestine Bank (under the directive of the Jewish Agency) and the economic authorities of Nazi Germany."
Halb said:
Mr Whippy said:
Is that retarded MP shouting at Ken on TV going to apologise for all the non-Jews he just suggested were Jewish because they lived in Israel? The racist b
d!
What an utterly loathsome creature he is. Too stupid to realise what he is shouting about.d!glazbagun said:
I thought his reference to the Nazi's in 1932 was a bit odd, but as far as I am aware, the Nazi's were in favour of resettling the Jews
Ken was totally correct.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Transfer_Agreeme...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement
"The Haavara Agreement (Hebrew: ???? ????? Translit.: heskem haavara Translated: "transfer agreement") was an agreement between Nazi Germany and Zionist German Jews signed on 25 August 1933. The agreement was finalized after three months of talks by the Zionist Federation of Germany, the Anglo-Palestine Bank (under the directive of the Jewish Agency) and the economic authorities of Nazi Germany."
glazbagun said:
Halb said:
glazbagun said:
I thought his reference to the Nazi's in 1932 was a bit odd, but as far as I am aware, the Nazi's were in favour of resettling the Jews
Ken was totally correct.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Transfer_Agreeme...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement
"The Haavara Agreement (Hebrew: ???? ????? Translit.: heskem haavara Translated: "transfer agreement") was an agreement between Nazi Germany and Zionist German Jews signed on 25 August 1933. The agreement was finalized after three months of talks by the Zionist Federation of Germany, the Anglo-Palestine Bank (under the directive of the Jewish Agency) and the economic authorities of Nazi Germany."
The full transcripts of his interviews have been published here and after reading through them I can't say I have an issue with anything he says. It seems like a fair and measured argument that just so happens to be unpopular in certain circles and is easy to misrepresent in the current ridiculously PC climate.
SWoll said:
glazbagun said:
Halb said:
glazbagun said:
I thought his reference to the Nazi's in 1932 was a bit odd, but as far as I am aware, the Nazi's were in favour of resettling the Jews
Ken was totally correct.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Transfer_Agreeme...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement
"The Haavara Agreement (Hebrew: ???? ????? Translit.: heskem haavara Translated: "transfer agreement") was an agreement between Nazi Germany and Zionist German Jews signed on 25 August 1933. The agreement was finalized after three months of talks by the Zionist Federation of Germany, the Anglo-Palestine Bank (under the directive of the Jewish Agency) and the economic authorities of Nazi Germany."
The full transcripts of his interviews have been published here and after reading through them I can't say I have an issue with anything he says. It seems like a fair and measured argument that just so happens to be unpopular in certain circles and is easy to misrepresent in the current ridiculously PC climate.
But it's all good here, when one commie takes down another is a good day as far as I'm concerned, sadly KL will come out of this smelling of roses.
The outstanding image of the day for me has been the video of John Mann making a complete 'arris of himself in a hysterical outburst with no foundation for it. Telling the World at large just how ignorant and dumb you are and then prove it live is quite something.
Fabulous day, who needs a McCarthyite like me when the loons take themselves down so effectively.
RottenIcons said:
Halb said:
Mr Whippy said:
Is that retarded MP shouting at Ken on TV going to apologise for all the non-Jews he just suggested were Jewish because they lived in Israel? The racist bd!
What an utterly loathsome creature he is. Too stupid to realise what he is shouting about.d!glazbagun said:
I thought his reference to the Nazi's in 1932 was a bit odd, but as far as I am aware, the Nazi's were in favour of resettling the Jews
Ken was totally correct.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Transfer_Agreeme...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement
"The Haavara Agreement (Hebrew: ???? ????? Translit.: heskem haavara Translated: "transfer agreement") was an agreement between Nazi Germany and Zionist German Jews signed on 25 August 1933. The agreement was finalized after three months of talks by the Zionist Federation of Germany, the Anglo-Palestine Bank (under the directive of the Jewish Agency) and the economic authorities of Nazi Germany."
One must also not forget the gypsies,mentally disabled and many other poor souls.
Yet you lot are happy to score points,playing top trumps,with totally irrelevant discussions.
They happened to be Jews but they could have been any minority that the Nazi facist regime chose first to scapegoat and then fouly murder.
You should be ashamed of yourselves.
There is no excuse for the enormity of the Holocaust and yet you prefer still to indulge in petty debate.
Jews are no different from anybody else,some good,some bad and some blooming horrible.
BUT no one ,no one deserved to be EXTERMINATED as they were.
avinalarf said:
SIX MILLION innocent Jews,men,women and children were dragged into concentration camps,starved ,abused,gassed and burnt in ovens.
One must also not forget the gypsies,mentally disabled and many other poor souls.
Yet you lot are happy to score points,playing top trumps,with totally irrelevant discussions.
They happened to be Jews but they could have been any minority that the Nazi facist regime chose first to scapegoat and then fouly murder.
You should be ashamed of yourselves.
There is no excuse for the enormity of the Holocaust and yet you prefer still to indulge in petty debate.
Jews are no different from anybody else,some good,some bad and some blooming horrible.
BUT no one ,no one deserved to be EXTERMINATED as they were.
May I address your above without you getting upset with me for doing so?One must also not forget the gypsies,mentally disabled and many other poor souls.
Yet you lot are happy to score points,playing top trumps,with totally irrelevant discussions.
They happened to be Jews but they could have been any minority that the Nazi facist regime chose first to scapegoat and then fouly murder.
You should be ashamed of yourselves.
There is no excuse for the enormity of the Holocaust and yet you prefer still to indulge in petty debate.
Jews are no different from anybody else,some good,some bad and some blooming horrible.
BUT no one ,no one deserved to be EXTERMINATED as they were.
avinalarf said:
SIX MILLION innocent Jews,men,women and children were dragged into concentration camps,starved ,abused,gassed and burnt in ovens.
One must also not forget the gypsies,mentally disabled and many other poor souls.
Yet you lot are happy to score points,playing top trumps,with totally irrelevant discussions.
They happened to be Jews but they could have been any minority that the Nazi facist regime chose first to scapegoat and then fouly murder.
You should be ashamed of yourselves.
There is no excuse for the enormity of the Holocaust and yet you prefer still to indulge in petty debate.
Jews are no different from anybody else,some good,some bad and some blooming horrible.
BUT no one ,no one deserved to be EXTERMINATED as they were.
Steady That's as read but who should be ashamed?One must also not forget the gypsies,mentally disabled and many other poor souls.
Yet you lot are happy to score points,playing top trumps,with totally irrelevant discussions.
They happened to be Jews but they could have been any minority that the Nazi facist regime chose first to scapegoat and then fouly murder.
You should be ashamed of yourselves.
There is no excuse for the enormity of the Holocaust and yet you prefer still to indulge in petty debate.
Jews are no different from anybody else,some good,some bad and some blooming horrible.
BUT no one ,no one deserved to be EXTERMINATED as they were.
Are you mixing up antisemitism (or is it semitism) with having a pop at Israel?
I'm failing to see your point TBH? Unless it's to ironically demonstrate the kind of over-reaction to a simple discussion of facts that seems to be so popular nowadays?
Indeed. Good luck with that...
Halb said:
RottenIcons said:
May I address your above without you getting upset with me for doing so?
Tall order?Halb said:
RottenIcons said:
May I address your above without you getting upset with me for doing so?
Tall order?RottenIcons said:
avinalarf said:
SIX MILLION innocent Jews,men,women and children were dragged into concentration camps,starved ,abused,gassed and burnt in ovens.
One must also not forget the gypsies,mentally disabled and many other poor souls.
Yet you lot are happy to score points,playing top trumps,with totally irrelevant discussions.
They happened to be Jews but they could have been any minority that the Nazi facist regime chose first to scapegoat and then fouly murder.
You should be ashamed of yourselves.
There is no excuse for the enormity of the Holocaust and yet you prefer still to indulge in petty debate.
Jews are no different from anybody else,some good,some bad and some blooming horrible.
BUT no one ,no one deserved to be EXTERMINATED as they were.
May I address your above without you getting upset with me for doing so?One must also not forget the gypsies,mentally disabled and many other poor souls.
Yet you lot are happy to score points,playing top trumps,with totally irrelevant discussions.
They happened to be Jews but they could have been any minority that the Nazi facist regime chose first to scapegoat and then fouly murder.
You should be ashamed of yourselves.
There is no excuse for the enormity of the Holocaust and yet you prefer still to indulge in petty debate.
Jews are no different from anybody else,some good,some bad and some blooming horrible.
BUT no one ,no one deserved to be EXTERMINATED as they were.
Labour and Corbyn deeply offend me because they are socialists, and Stalin was a socialist and killed millions, so outrage.
Edited by Mr Whippy on Thursday 28th April 22:54
irocfan said:
IIRC the Nazis also made noises about allowing militant Muslims a 'homeland' in Palestine (and there was a Muslim SS division, mind you I think there was also a Jewish SS division so that really doesn't mean much).
A Jewish SS Division. Are you really saying what i think you're saying?saaby93 said:
RottenIcons said:
I've read that the other thread was closed as it seems someone hit the 'cry-bully' button. (reading between the lines) and people do get upset and I don't want to upset anyone.
What other thread?ok shall we talk about Saabyism?
And besides which, Livingstone appears to have been entirely incorrect in his statement. Yale Professor entirely debunks his 'Hitler was a Zionist' argument
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36165298
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36165298
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36165298
Well this news story suggests that Livingstone was not factually accurate...
Well this news story suggests that Livingstone was not factually accurate...
Joey Ramone said:
And besides which, Livingstone appears to have been entirely incorrect in his statement. Yale Professor entirely debunks his 'Hitler was a Zionist' argument
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36165298
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36165298
oop north said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36165298
Well this news story suggests that Livingstone was not factually accurate...
Just as the 3rd Reich had a final solution, they had a first one.Well this news story suggests that Livingstone was not factually accurate...
The first one was the idea of giving the jews in Germany their own homeland. He instigated a repatriation program that was SUPPORTED by jews, it was run by jews, it was paid for by the 3rd Reich. These are simple facts. Hitler had the exact same aims as the founders of Israel who are commonly called Zionists. So KL was speaking in shorthand and you can pull his teeth for that but the principle and overall concept he precis'd was 100% correct.
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