Red Ken suspended
Discussion
rich1231 said:
Lots of Labour activity today as 3 councillors so far have been suapended today alone for racist/anti semetic remarks.
BBC link.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshi...
Oceanic said:
I'm enjoying watching Labour implode, but it is happening a bit early for me, I really would like this BS to happen nearer to an election.
Amazing isn't it. At a time when the Torys are in civil war they should be on the ropes being torn apart by labour instead oddly labour are pulling a lot of naughty rabbits out of the hat which is going to destroy them even more than they had expected.
SNP will do very well now - maybe zero MSP labour in Scotland on Thursday...
Oceanic said:
I'm enjoying watching Labour implode, but it is happening a bit early for me, I really would like this BS to happen nearer to an election.
Just before the local elections, when the people can really say to comrade corbyn what they think about him....in my opinion its perfect timing. Expect one of the unions to kick up a fuss over nothing in the next few days.
marcosgt said:
chris watton said:
Seems like Corbyn's Labour party is eating itself!
Great!
Leaving us what? A one party state?Great!
Hardly a healthy state of affairs for democracy, whatever your political leaning ..
Or do you see our future as a Tory vs UKIP one?
M
chris watton said:
No idea, 'M' But I certainly do not want Corbyn's version of Labour anywhere near the helm of the UK, do you?
I think that's very unlikely (I think Labour under Corbyn are more or less where they were under Foot, unelectable), but the idea of the Labour party imploding the way the Liberals have (do they even still exist?) fills me with dread for the future almost as much as the idea of Trump in the White House....On the original thread, Hitler was no Zionist (Maybe the idea of shipping all the Juden to some far flung part of the world MIGHT have satisfied his mad hatred, but it wasn't a benevolent intent) and I'm sure Livingstone knew that (whatever else you might think, he's shrewd), so the question really is, what did he expect to achieve with the daft suggestion?
I guess the point that if the state of Israel wasn't inextricably linked to the Holocaust then we'd probably consider them a rogue state has been totally lost amongst the noise.
Any government can carry out harsh and unreasonable policies - There is only ONE Jewish state, if there were 2 or 3, we'd be able to say the Israeli government has a shoot to kill policy on Palestinian civilians without being branded Anti-Semitic, but they (and their supporters) deflect any valid criticism with "That's Anti-Semitic" rhetoric.
No-one ever says Chile or Argentina's military juntas were unfairly criticised because they were Catholic...
M
Edited by marcosgt on Monday 2nd May 22:00
johnxjsc1985 said:
techiedave said:
I see one of the suspended is from the wonderful multi culturally enriched northern town of Blackburn.
This is a truly lovely place.
Blackburn used to be a lovely place to live an historic Lancashire town .This is a truly lovely place.
Joey Ramone said:
irocfan said:
wow! This thread's kind of gone in directions I didn't expect (even by NPE standards)
Don't worry. We haven't reached peak Fascism a la the Calais Migrant Madness thread. Yet.What astounded me about that particular debacle was that someone started (purposely, because he PM'd me to let me know what he was up to) posting excerpts from Hitlers speeches on the subject of the Jewish menace, but substituted the word 'Jew' for 'migrants'. In doing so, and despite using terms such as 'maggots', 'disease' and 'destroy' he was vociferously supported by numerous PH'ders.
Edited by Joey Ramone on Monday 2nd May 11:53
johnxjsc1985 said:
techiedave said:
I see one of the suspended is from the wonderful multi culturally enriched northern town of Blackburn.
This is a truly lovely place.
Blackburn used to be a lovely place to live an historic Lancashire town .This is a truly lovely place.
t hole. The bits that were nice then are still nice now, the bits that were st then are still st now... And even if there had been much of a change (which there hasn't) you'd be hard pressed to lay the entirety of the blame at the door of Labour voters, anti Semites or Muslims.We're still stuck at this ridiculous juncture where criticising the state of Israel, a state born from terrorism and armed struggle btw, is seen as racist or anti Semitic, but laying the blame for all the UKs ills and disruption across Europe at the feet of "The Muslims" is somehow perfectly reasonable - it's all very silly and you people need to take a good look at yourselves, including Guido bloody Fawkes.
FredClogs said:
I don't know to what distant or near past you are referring but I grew up there throughout the 80s and 90s it was always, generally, a st hole. The bits that were nice then are still nice now, the bits that were st then are still st now... And even if there had been much of a change (which there hasn't) you'd be hard pressed to lay the entirety of the blame at the door of Labour voters, anti Semites or Muslims.
We're still stuck at this ridiculous juncture where criticising the state of Israel, a state born from terrorism and armed struggle btw, is seen as racist or anti Semitic, but laying the blame for all the UKs ills and disruption across Europe at the feet of "The Muslims" is somehow perfectly reasonable - it's all very silly and you people need to take a good look at yourselves, including Guido bloody Fawkes.
I think the whole point of this is so many Labour people don't know where to draw the line on genuine honest criticism and slipping over the line into blind Jew hate. I'm not sure your line in 'ignore it all' is doing that much to help either. t hole. The bits that were nice then are still nice now, the bits that were st then are still st now... And even if there had been much of a change (which there hasn't) you'd be hard pressed to lay the entirety of the blame at the door of Labour voters, anti Semites or Muslims.We're still stuck at this ridiculous juncture where criticising the state of Israel, a state born from terrorism and armed struggle btw, is seen as racist or anti Semitic, but laying the blame for all the UKs ills and disruption across Europe at the feet of "The Muslims" is somehow perfectly reasonable - it's all very silly and you people need to take a good look at yourselves, including Guido bloody Fawkes.
Mr_B said:
I think the whole point of this is so many Labour people don't know where to draw the line on genuine honest criticism and slipping over the line into blind Jew hate. I'm not sure your line in 'ignore it all' is doing that much to help either.
Labour hating Jews doesn't exactly tally with their last leader being Jewish or that 2 people have been suspended for allegations of anti semiticism.Can you stop repeatng this anti semitic bile ad infinitum.
edited for fat fingers
Edited by MarshPhantom on Tuesday 3rd May 14:23
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