Primary school strikes

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Jockman

17,917 posts

160 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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Is stress bad for kids?

TSCfree

1,681 posts

231 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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Jockman said:
Is stress bad for kids?
Well it's not good for adults and everyone has their own tolerances. Stretch their abilities, but no so much you put them under undue pressure.

mph1977

12,467 posts

168 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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there has also be a lot of gnahsing over the terms used in documents for teacher consumption obut what is being tested , reflecting the general lack of knowledge in the UK over what grammatical concepts are called

sample test papers on the gov.uk site https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/2016-ke...

Jockman

17,917 posts

160 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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TSCfree said:
Jockman said:
Is stress bad for kids?
Well it's not good for adults and everyone has their own tolerances. Stretch their abilities, but no so much you put them under undue pressure.
Do you think these tests constitute undue pressure?

The Surveyor

7,576 posts

237 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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Jockman said:
TSCfree said:
Jockman said:
Is stress bad for kids?
Well it's not good for adults and everyone has their own tolerances. Stretch their abilities, but no so much you put them under undue pressure.
Do you think these tests constitute undue pressure?
The tests don't put children under any pressure, it's the parents and staff who do that. Most 6 year olds will just laugh if you ask a question they don't know the answer to, unless you tell them their whole future depends on it....

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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Parents and staff are putting the pressure on. This has nothing to do with the kids futures its to see if they are being taught well.

Hippy parents protecting their special snowflake after filling their heads with propaganda why can't kids be kids school should be easy. Hmmm

eatcustard

1,003 posts

127 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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Both my kids have done the sats and both were not stressed in the slightest, too much crying going on or probably poor teaching.

All what will happen is the kids away will do it another day

Derek Smith

45,613 posts

248 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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Pesty said:
This has nothing to do with the kids futures its to see if they are being taught well.
I remember, way, way back, when examinations were a test of the children and not the teachers.


sidicks

25,218 posts

221 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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Derek Smith said:
I remember, way, way back, when examinations were a test of the children and not the teachers.
Are you saying we shouldn't be monitoring the performance of teachers?

Jockman

17,917 posts

160 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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The Surveyor said:
Jockman said:
TSCfree said:
Jockman said:
Is stress bad for kids?
Well it's not good for adults and everyone has their own tolerances. Stretch their abilities, but no so much you put them under undue pressure.
Do you think these tests constitute undue pressure?
The tests don't put children under any pressure, it's the parents and staff who do that. Most 6 year olds will just laugh if you ask a question they don't know the answer to, unless you tell them their whole future depends on it....
I'm inclined to agree. My grandson (will be 6 in December) would be more stressed about being unable to watch Star Wars.

KrissKross

2,182 posts

101 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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Any concerns about language issues perhaps?

Pickled Piper

6,339 posts

235 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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Pesty said:
Parents and staff are putting the pressure on. This has nothing to do with the kids futures its to see if they are being taught well.

Hippy parents protecting their special snowflake after filling their heads with propaganda why can't kids be kids school should be easy. Hmmm
In my experience it is the parents that are causing the issue by constantly bringing it to the attention of their sprogs. Withholding them from school and making a national issue of it is hardly going to de-stress their kids.

My two were blissfully unaware that they were sitting SATS. When they asked me about them, I just told not to worry, "it's no big deal".

Timmy40

12,915 posts

198 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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You know what's responsible for this? Arsebook. It's a f**king nightmare. The mothers all decide to setup an XYZ School Arsebook page and then spend their evenings merrily winding each other up into a frothy lather over the slightest thing.

It's a nightmare for the teachers and staff because even the tiniest incident can lead to a stampede of bovine intellect towards the school gates.

markh1973

1,793 posts

168 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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Pickled Piper said:
Pesty said:
Parents and staff are putting the pressure on. This has nothing to do with the kids futures its to see if they are being taught well.

Hippy parents protecting their special snowflake after filling their heads with propaganda why can't kids be kids school should be easy. Hmmm
In my experience it is the parents that are causing the issue by constantly bringing it to the attention of their sprogs. Withholding them from school and making a national issue of it is hardly going to de-stress their kids.

My two were blissfully unaware that they were sitting SATS. When they asked me about them, I just told not to worry, "it's no big deal".
This - I said above my two aren't stressed about them. We haven't put any pressure on and neither have their schools.

deadslow

7,988 posts

223 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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Derek Smith said:
Pesty said:
This has nothing to do with the kids futures its to see if they are being taught well.
I remember, way, way back, when examinations were a test of the children and not the teachers.
its a cyclical thing though, isn't it. You teach, then check understanding. If you don't test, then you are hoping for the best. Education went down this route for a while, and after 12 years in education we only realised half of them couldn't read, write or count when universities and employers started complaining.




TSCfree

1,681 posts

231 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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Jockman said:
Do you think these tests constitute undue pressure?
Depends entirely on the parent/teacher and how much emphasis they place on performance. There are plenty of measures in place for teachers to assess if little Jonny is heading in the right direction and parents should also know if they've been actively engaged in their child's education.

DMN

2,983 posts

139 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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The Governments Childrens Mental Health Expert has been dropped for telling the truth:

http://www.theguardian.com/education/2016/may/04/m...

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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DMN said:
The Governments Childrens Mental Health Expert has been dropped for telling the truth:

http://www.theguardian.com/education/2016/may/04/m...
Yup. only seek advice from the experts that support your views. Yup that's how innovation and new ideas come about.

I was listening to a parent telling another that their children had been given advice about dealing with nerves during the exams yesterday. hehe Loads of schools don't even do these exams, many private ones certainly don't.

Anyway, it's the NP and E so we all know it's the fault of the lefty teachers and the junior doctors fault and the commie, lefty, lazy, spiteful, envy driven primary school kids.

lol 4th post in, someone blames public sector workers. hehe classic.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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Pickled Piper said:
In my experience it is the parents that are causing the issue by constantly bringing it to the attention of their sprogs. Withholding them from school and making a national issue of it is hardly going to de-stress their kids.

My two were blissfully unaware that they were sitting SATS. When they asked me about them, I just told not to worry, "it's no big deal".
This. Then going on strike making the kids think it must be some Victorian child abuse.

dazwalsh

6,095 posts

141 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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Kids dont get stressed, missing the ice cream van is about as bad as it gets when your 6. Give them the bloody tests and see how they are progressing.

Fine these idiot mothers too, what is it, £100 for taking your child out of school?.