Trial Bikes

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delboy735

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1,656 posts

202 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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I now live on the West coast of Scotland ( lucky me ), and have the pleasure of traversing the roads from Campbeltown to Newtonmore regularly. So, this week at Fort William, one of the car parks has been taken up with many teams of trial bike riders. My question is very simple, is it legal to ride one of these on the "open" road? They have no lights front or rear, no indicators, no speedometer, no seat as such, and most have no number plate.....however, I have seen dozens of them using the A82 travelling between Fort William and Duror....a distance of approx 12 miles.
I'm guessing that if they have no registration number, then they won't be taxed or insured to use on the road. If an accident were to happen involving one of these bikes, what could the possible outcome be with regards to coasts ?

gazza285

9,806 posts

208 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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They are there for the Scottish Six Day Trial, all the bikes will have a number plate if you look hard enough, a horn and a speedo, nothing else is you mentioned as being missing is required to make them road legal. There's not much point in having a bike that isn't road legal, you would not be allowed to ride in the competition.

Lugy

830 posts

183 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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It's the Scottish Six Day Trial this week, hence the number scooting about. The bikes will need to be registered but they're down as 'trial bike'. The number plates are usually quite small to avoid damage, not sure about the legalities re sizing but never known anyone to have trouble. They need to be insured for road use as a rally car would need to be (here's a link; http://www.ssdt.org/2016-ssdt-scottish-six-days-tr... It's most likely they'll have a daytime MOT which gets round things like lights.

ETA:- beaten to it by a fair bit!

delboy735

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202 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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I'd spotted it was the 6day trial. Thanks for the replies about road use. Was just surprised at the lack of lights etc. I know rally cars have to be insured for road use, but they do have all of their lights available and working. Anyway, question answered thanks smile

gazza285

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208 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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And my mate is in fourth place...

Edited by gazza285 on Thursday 5th May 22:05

numtumfutunch

4,721 posts

138 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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gazza285 said:
And my mate is in forth place...
He must have wet feet


getmecoat

gazza285

9,806 posts

208 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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numtumfutunch said:
gazza285 said:
And my mate is in forth place...
He must have wet feet


getmecoat
bks.

gazza285

9,806 posts

208 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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delboy735 said:
I'd spotted it was the 6day trial. Thanks for the replies about road use. Was just surprised at the lack of lights etc. I know rally cars have to be insured for road use, but they do have all of their lights available and working. Anyway, question answered thanks smile
You don't need side, head or fog lights for a car mot either...

Saleen836

11,104 posts

209 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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There are two types of MOT for a motorbike, a normal MOT and a 'daylight' MOT

delboy735

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1,656 posts

202 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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gazza285 said:
delboy735 said:
I'd spotted it was the 6day trial. Thanks for the replies about road use. Was just surprised at the lack of lights etc. I know rally cars have to be insured for road use, but they do have all of their lights available and working. Anyway, question answered thanks smile
You don't need side, head or fog lights for a car mot either...
Please elaborate, because the MOT site I just checked says you need all of these !!

DuraAce

4,240 posts

160 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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Saleen836 said:
There are two types of MOT for a motorbike, a normal MOT and a 'daylight' MOT
There aren't. There is one type of MOT. Should you present a bike for an MOT without lights it will pass, you'll get a normal MOT certificate with advisories for the items that are not fitted.

gazza285

9,806 posts

208 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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Section 1.1 of the MOT inspection manual, first paragraph...

delboy735

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1,656 posts

202 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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gazza285 said:
Section 1.1 of the MOT inspection manual, first paragraph...
Got it, thanks. Bizarre though. Never knew about that.

numtumfutunch

4,721 posts

138 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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gazza285 said:
bks.
Sorry - I usually hate the smug smartass comments on here but a Firth of Forth pun was too good to miss

Cheers!

Dog Star

16,129 posts

168 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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Saleen836 said:
There are two types of MOT for a motorbike, a normal MOT and a 'daylight' MOT
No there aren't.
Please stop propagating this myth.

Also - even if you present your vehicle without lights for an mot and get an advisory, there's nothing to stop you putting some on the day after and riding around in the dark perfectly legally.