Can we talk about Austria a little?

Can we talk about Austria a little?

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davepoth

Original Poster:

29,395 posts

199 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Ooh, I hate these threads. biggrin

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36245316

The Austrian chancellor has quit, and both of the mainstream parties look to be failing - the presidential runoff is between the Greens and the far right.

Austria was already the most anti-immigrant country in "old" Europe, so what does this mean for the continent?

loafer123

15,429 posts

215 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Sort of makes you wonder whether Angela Merkel is ignorant of voters issues and naive about the impact of her decisions, or has some grand Austin Powers style plan for Europe.

Austria is a very interesting bell weather for the rest of the EU which will have to reform and listen to the reaction of it's populace or risk uncontrolled disintegration.

We are bystanders whatever happens with Brexit.


davepoth

Original Poster:

29,395 posts

199 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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loafer123 said:
We are bystanders whatever happens with Brexit.
I think this is true. Brexit is becoming less of an outlier all the time.

Sam All

3,101 posts

101 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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http://m.dw.com/en/migrants-wary-of-austrian-presi...

Austrian elections at the weekend will attract a lot of interest.

FiF

44,050 posts

251 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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davepoth said:
loafer123 said:
We are bystanders whatever happens with Brexit.
I think this is true. Brexit is becoming less of an outlier all the time.
If we vote Remain, and I think we will, it's like being that bloke in the old VW ad, everything on red etc.

EricE

1,945 posts

129 months

Sunday 22nd May 2016
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too close to call at the moment, final results tomorrow

Looket

688 posts

121 months

Sunday 22nd May 2016
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My German isn't what it used to be, but I assume 'WK-prognose' means that those figures include a prediction of how the postal vote will turn out.

Hofer won with 51.9%. He'll need roughly 40% (I think) of the postal votes to become president.

Sam All

3,101 posts

101 months

Sunday 22nd May 2016
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Looket said:
My German isn't what it used to be, but I assume 'WK-prognose' means that those figures include a prediction of how the postal vote will turn out.

Hofer won with 51.9%. He'll need roughly 40% (I think) of the postal votes to become president.
I wonder if they have postal vote fraud in Austria.

loafer123

15,429 posts

215 months

Sunday 22nd May 2016
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Sam All said:
Looket said:
My German isn't what it used to be, but I assume 'WK-prognose' means that those figures include a prediction of how the postal vote will turn out.

Hofer won with 51.9%. He'll need roughly 40% (I think) of the postal votes to become president.
I wonder if they have postal vote fraud in Austria.
It does seem a little convenient, doesn't it?

benjj

6,787 posts

163 months

Sunday 22nd May 2016
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Hmm, looks like Hofer is going to scrape it. Postal, overseas and proxy votes to go.

It would be an extreme but not entirely surprising reaction to Merkel playing so fast and loose with other European countries.

Sadly though I reckon it'll end badly. The Austrian far right has a habit of naughtiness.

Sam All

3,101 posts

101 months

Sunday 22nd May 2016
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benjj said:
Hmm, looks like Hofer is going to scrape it. Postal, overseas and proxy votes to go.

It would be an extreme but not entirely surprising reaction to Merkel playing so fast and loose with other European countries.

Sadly though I reckon it'll end badly. The Austrian far right has a habit of naughtiness.
The pendulum always swings too far. Merkel has a lot to answer for.

Immigration/religion fine in small doses.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

160 months

Sunday 22nd May 2016
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Van der bellend !!! what an apt name for a green laugh

Edited by powerstroke on Sunday 22 May 21:40

EnglishTony

2,552 posts

99 months

Sunday 22nd May 2016
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The view in the German press this evening is that the postal votes will swing it away from Hofer. About 10% of the total votes are postal and the majority of those from urban areas where people are less likely to vote for the extreme right.

As for Merkel, she seems to get nearly as much support from the left of centre as from the right.

Beati Dogu

8,885 posts

139 months

Monday 23rd May 2016
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I was unsure from the press coverage whether the FAR-RIGHT! FAR-RIGHT! Freedom Party was FAR-RIGHT! or perhaps FAR-RIGHT!

And why the far-left Green Party don't attract the same labelling system.


hidetheelephants

24,218 posts

193 months

Monday 23rd May 2016
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The BBC are wetting themselves over this in an entirely hysterical manner.

turbobloke

103,877 posts

260 months

Monday 23rd May 2016
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Polling station results from Sunday's vote have given the FAR-RIGHT! FAR-RIGHT! chap a narrow lead over his not worth labelling far-left rival. Apparently postal votes being counted today will seal the win, or not.

JMGS4

8,738 posts

270 months

Monday 23rd May 2016
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Postal votes are being counted on Monday (today) and results (700-800thousand voters) expected about teatime!

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Monday 23rd May 2016
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I think he will lose out - just. That might not mean the end of any displeasure many have with the political system of course, it may even make it worse if they feel cheated or the obligatory cries of "we were cheated" arise.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

160 months

Monday 23rd May 2016
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Beati Dogu said:
I was unsure from the press coverage whether the FAR-RIGHT! FAR-RIGHT! Freedom Party was FAR-RIGHT! or perhaps FAR-RIGHT!

And why the far-left Green Party don't attract the same labelling system.
Yes strange isn't it ...oh well .

Sam All

3,101 posts

101 months

Monday 23rd May 2016
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Axionknight said:
I think he will lose out - just. That might not mean the end of any displeasure many have with the political system of course, it may even make it worse if they feel cheated or the obligatory cries of "we were cheated" arise.
This ^ - other governments take note, uncontrolled immigration results in undesirable consequences.