The 'No to the EU' campaign Vol 2

The 'No to the EU' campaign Vol 2

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anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Esseesse said:
Leading postal vote forms telling you how to vote...



https://twitter.com/henry4alw/status/7368778815828...
Clearly the Government knows its audience..............

turbobloke

103,981 posts

261 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Esseesse said:
Leading postal vote forms telling you how to vote...

CMD has taken a propaganda lesson from the BBC.



IIRC the Beeb changed the image after Guido's website pointed out the obvious bias.

ETA no it's still there (or it was repositioned).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32584350

Edited by turbobloke on Monday 30th May 13:07

Pan Pan Pan

9,919 posts

112 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Esseesse said:
Leading postal vote forms telling you how to vote...



https://twitter.com/henry4alw/status/7368778815828...
Hate to have to mention it, but isn't this similar to the election ballot papers that the Nazis issued where the pro Nazi tick box, was much more prominent than the non Nazi party tick box?
I know there is a belief by some, that the general public is stupid, but do they really t need a hand holding a pencil hovering over the pro EU box to show them how to mark an X with a pencil in a ballot paper tick box?

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

171 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Derren Brown has made a living out of such antics.

Sam All

3,101 posts

102 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Pan Pan Pan said:
Esseesse said:
Leading postal vote forms telling you how to vote...



https://twitter.com/henry4alw/status/7368778815828...
Hate to have to mention it, but isn't this similar to the election ballot papers that the Nazis issued where the pro Nazi tick box, was much more prominent than the non Nazi party tick box?
I know there is a belief by some, that the general public is stupid, but do they really t need a hand holding a pencil hovering over the pro EU box to show them how to mark an X with a pencil in a ballot paper tick box?
It's a fake surely?

turbobloke

103,981 posts

261 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Sam All said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Esseesse said:
Leading postal vote forms telling you how to vote...



https://twitter.com/henry4alw/status/7368778815828...
Hate to have to mention it, but isn't this similar to the election ballot papers that the Nazis issued where the pro Nazi tick box, was much more prominent than the non Nazi party tick box?
I know there is a belief by some, that the general public is stupid, but do they really t need a hand holding a pencil hovering over the pro EU box to show them how to mark an X with a pencil in a ballot paper tick box?
It's a fake surely?
Possibly, I haven't seen postal voting instructions, but the BBC 'How To Vote Labour' wasn't a fake, it's still up on the beeb website.

It didn't work for the biased beeb, so either way here's hoping (but not expecting) the same type of result for CMD.

Pan Pan Pan

9,919 posts

112 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Sam All said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Esseesse said:
Leading postal vote forms telling you how to vote...



https://twitter.com/henry4alw/status/7368778815828...
Hate to have to mention it, but isn't this similar to the election ballot papers that the Nazis issued where the pro Nazi tick box, was much more prominent than the non Nazi party tick box?
I know there is a belief by some, that the general public is stupid, but do they really t need a hand holding a pencil hovering over the pro EU box to show them how to mark an X with a pencil in a ballot paper tick box?
It's a fake surely?
If it isn't, it bloody well needs to be!

turbobloke

103,981 posts

261 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Pan Pan Pan said:
Sam All said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Esseesse said:
Leading postal vote forms telling you how to vote...



https://twitter.com/henry4alw/status/7368778815828...
Hate to have to mention it, but isn't this similar to the election ballot papers that the Nazis issued where the pro Nazi tick box, was much more prominent than the non Nazi party tick box?
I know there is a belief by some, that the general public is stupid, but do they really t need a hand holding a pencil hovering over the pro EU box to show them how to mark an X with a pencil in a ballot paper tick box?
It's a fake surely?
If it isn't, it bloody well needs to be!
yes

The hand looks shopped, which doesn't help, and it's a curious but not unknown way to hold a pencil.

grumbledoak

31,544 posts

234 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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If that isn't fake the postal votes should be discarded completely.

turbobloke

103,981 posts

261 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Henry Michallat appears to be standing by his image, agreeing for it to be used in the MSM and insisting on being credited by name. So his name could be as fake as the image sonar if it's fake.

JawKnee

1,140 posts

98 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Esseesse said:
Leading postal vote forms telling you how to vote...



https://twitter.com/henry4alw/status/7368778815828...
If you're so thick that you'd decide how to vote based on the instruction leaflet then frankly you shouldn't have a vote at all.

Unfortunately no government would dare do that so better these people's votes goes with the status quo, the safer option all round for those incapable of independent thought.

steveatesh

4,900 posts

165 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Mrr T said:
As I said before Leave should have a plan because it must involve change. So it should explain what it plans are for the future. This is essential to consider the economic costs/benefits.

The veto position will only change if our government agrees.
Mm sorry to keep repeating it but the EU also must involve change. Therefore it should explain its plans for the future too by your logic.

The vote to leave or remain is partly (totally for some) around cost benefits for both decisions.

So why do you need to have a full detailed plan for one route but not the other?

zbc

853 posts

152 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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It's certainly not typical if true. My wife and I vote in different constituencies and have slightly different instructions, neither of them are like this.

steveatesh

4,900 posts

165 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Mrr T said:
This is a report by a EU working group. So of cause it proposes more EU. The problem for the working group is many of its proposals are not just unacceptable to many member states but for many would require constitutional changes.
Indeed but I cited it as an example of proposals and therefore uncertainty and risk remaining in the EU.

I am highlighting an apparent duplicity in the remain argument that leave is a vote for uncertainty when it is patently obvious that remain is also a vote for uncertainty.

turbobloke

103,981 posts

261 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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zbc said:
It's certainly not typical if true. My wife and I vote in different constituencies and have slightly different instructions, neither of them are like this.
Which news is encouraging. Could Henry really be so naughty?!

steveT350C

6,728 posts

162 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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If the people vote leave, which is a serious possibility, then the UK Government had better have a plan.

Do they I wonder?

turbobloke

103,981 posts

261 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Two of the responses to Henry:

Ard Amsterdam ?@Ard_Amsterdam May 29
@henry4alw @LeaveEUOfficial @vote_leave @BristolPost WOW!
Almost the same with our #referendum. Came with explanation. But only pro EU!!
5 retweets 11 likes
UKlPvoter ?@UKlPVoter May 29

@Ard_Amsterdam @henry4alw @LeaveEUOfficial @BristolPost I think this is area specific,
because my instructions don't use that image

Sam All

3,101 posts

102 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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steveT350C said:
If the people vote leave, which is a serious possibility, then the UK Government had better have a plan.

Do they I wonder?
CMD will have a plan - after all, he has to prepare for that possibility and has been thinking if it for a while.

Life will carry on, with a few potholes and bumps.

steveT350C

6,728 posts

162 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Sam All said:
steveT350C said:
If the people vote leave, which is a serious possibility, then the UK Government had better have a plan.

Do they I wonder?
CMD will have a plan - after all, he has to prepare for that possibility and has been thinking if it for a while.

Life will carry on, with a few potholes and bumps.
I think it would be nice if he would share it, especially as the Remain camp keep asking for one.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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No one has a plan, they are all winging it.

CMD cannot guarantee his guarantees cos he does not know what they are and what the future holds and the leave campaign are in the same boat.