The 'No to the EU' campaign Vol 2

[fatboy18]

Peter Cook and Dudley Moore sum it up quite well ......Who?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0u3NM8rd1U

[Salamander1978]

pingu393 said:

Historic USD-GBP rates...
http://fxtop.com/en/historical-exchange-rates-grap...

Historic EUR-GBP rates...
http://fxtop.com/en/historical-exchange-rates-grap...

Historic Gold Prices (XAU-GBP)...
http://fxtop.com/en/historical-exchange-rates-grap...

In all three cases, it has been worse. Keep calm and have a cuppa tea .

Our quality of life and spending power has taken a significant backwards step overnight.

But Pingu says don't worry, it's been worse at some points in our history so all is ok, have a cup of tea.

What a forward thinking genius.

[Pommygranite]

Ste1987 said:

l354uge said:

Ste1987 said:

l354uge said:

Ste1987 said:

Yeah I did hear there was a protest to do with fishing regulations. Fair enough, but to me this is only the tip of the iceberg. There must be more to this, as I get the impression the majority who didn't want the EU to make our laws only had one thing in mind and that's deporting immigrants. Of course, that won't happen anyway because of our own human rights act, or am I wrong about that?

You get that impression because thats what the media is peddling.
I was watching the news yesterday, and they only interviewed two leave voters in barnsley, both were wearing England football tops and not to sound nasty, a bit rough. So of course, they say its just about "getting the immigrants out and making Britain Great Britain again" ignoring the fact he's about to go home and order an indian, and probably see a Gurkha on the street and brandish him as a member of ISIS.
There are extremes on both sides, but you shouldn't label people such as myself who couldn't care less about EU Immigration but voted leave anyway, we're a lot less interesting to the media as we don't fit their agenda.

And no, we won't just box up every migrant here and send them home. That would put ridiculous strain on the areas that rely on them, aswell as being immoral. We don't even know if we'll be exiting the free market yet!

Yeah apologies for my comment. It's pretty frustrating when all I see is people stating their reasons and not backing those reasons up, so all I can do is make assumptions. I'm willing to accept the majority decision and really hope it will work and I can't help but ask questions to get some clarity and feel better about the situation

No worries, glad to see someone who voted remain concede that democracy worked against their opinion and they're willing to honour that decision. Wish others were as understanding.

If Jeremy Clarkson is willing to make it work, so am I

https://twitter.com/JeremyClarkson/status/74635079...

I think he's talking about the new series of Top Gear

[whoami]

Salamander1978 said:

pingu393 said:

Historic USD-GBP rates...
http://fxtop.com/en/historical-exchange-rates-grap...

Historic EUR-GBP rates...
http://fxtop.com/en/historical-exchange-rates-grap...

Historic Gold Prices (XAU-GBP)...
http://fxtop.com/en/historical-exchange-rates-grap...

In all three cases, it has been worse. Keep calm and have a cuppa tea .

Our quality of life and spending power has taken a significant backwards step overnight.

But Pingu says don't worry, it's been worse at some points in our history so all is ok, have a cup of tea.

What a forward thinking genius.

What has changed?

[Salamander1978]

whoami said:

What has changed?

Purchasing power is something I consider as important to my quality of life. I'm surprised you don't.

My job is less certain. My house is worth less. My pension has fallen in value. But it's fine becuase there is a link showing it's been worse....

Edited by Salamander1978 on Saturday 25th June 15:15

[whoami]

Salamander1978 said:

whoami said:

What has changed?

Purchasing power is something I consider as important to my quality of life. I'm surprised you don't. But it's fine becuase there is a link showing it's been worse....

Nice try.

[s2art]

chrispmartha said:

Burwood said:

chrispmartha said:

Crush said:

l354uge said:

I think the EUs laws on the environment are well known, when unelected officials start telling people they can't buy a certain vacuum cleaner or lightbulbs because of its wattage its surprising it took this long for us to get peed off with the bureaucracy and nannying.

Funnily enough my mum has just returned from the hairdresser. They voted Leave for amongst other things, the plan to ban hairdryers that are capable of drying hair

Ironically ithe legislation would most likely to lead to more efficient hair dryers that dry hair quicker - that's what happens. Look at cars, emissions has created engines that are morepowerful whilst being more fuel efficient

Ag what cost. My research says higher cost and more complex. The consumer pays in the end

At what cost? Its called progress, things that can do what they need to do in the most efficient way is a good thing i realise that will be an unpopular opinion on here though ;-)

There is no evidence that EU emission regulations have created more powerful and economical engines. On the contrary the regulations shut down research into lean burn technologies. The improvements are due to better engine management, which would have been needed either way.

[Piersman2]

Salamander1978 said:

whoami said:

What has changed?

Purchasing power is something I consider as important to my quality of life. I'm surprised you don't.

My job is less certain. My house is worth less. My pension has fallen in value. But it's fine becuase there is a link showing it's been worse....

Edited by Salamander1978 on Saturday 25th June 15:15

Your life must be like riding on a never ending roller-coaster as you follow the market indices on a day by day, minute by minute basis.

[don4l]

donutsina911 said:

Statement from Tusk:

http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-rele...

Followed by:

http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_STATEMENT-16-...

I would simply give them the date. June 25th 2018.

Why do we need to bother with negotiations?

A bunch of unelected presidents said:

We stand ready to launch negotiations swiftly with the United Kingdom regarding the terms and conditions of its withdrawal from the European Union.

You stand ready????

Do sod off... tossers!

You have a £65Bn trade surplus with us. Wake up and smell the coffee. We will let you know if, and when we want to "negotiate".

Initially, I was not very happy with Cameron's resignation. I was looking forward to seeing the removal vans next Tuesday.

However, I now hope that he does stay in office until October.

While Cameron is still in office, they have no one to negotiate with. Each day that passes will give them an opportunity to consider the effects of losing a huge contributor. Each day that passes raises the possibility that another country will grant its people the right to express their opinion. Each day that passes gives Volkswagen, Mercedes and BMW another chance to explain to Merkel that she must negotiate a trade deal with the UK.

The fear is palpable, and still they act like they are in charge. What a bunch of utterly clueless gobstes.

The Volkswagen share price fell 5.5% yesterday.

BMW fell 7.5% and is at the same price as 5 years ago.

Daimler (Mercedes) fell 8%.

The French (CAC) stock market fell 8%.

The IBEX (Spain) fell 12%.

The FTSE dropped 3%... to the same level that it was a week ago.


So, Schulz, Junker and Tusk... tell us why we should negotiate? You have until the 25th of June 2018 to come up with a good reason. From June 26th, 10% duty will be applied to all German cars.

Now, do me a favour and sod off. There is some footie on the telly.

[Salamander1978]

Piersman2 said:

Your life must be like riding on a never ending roller-coaster as you follow the market indices on a day by day, minute by minute basis.

:-)

It's kind of hard (if not foolish) to Ignore the events from yesterday and not form any conclusions about what it is likely to mean for you in the short, medium and long term.

For me personally, I can already conclude with a strong degree of certainty, that my personal situation is worse than this time last week. Time will tell to what extent, however.

[turbobloke]

Piersman2 said:

Salamander1978 said:

whoami said:

What has changed?

Purchasing power is something I consider as important to my quality of life. I'm surprised you don't.

My job is less certain. My house is worth less. My pension has fallen in value. But it's fine becuase there is a link showing it's been worse....

Edited by Salamander1978 on Saturday 25th June 15:15

Your life must be like riding on a never ending roller-coaster as you follow the market indices on a day by day, minute by minute basis.

A dizzying ride of volatility.

Job - boss must have written to staff very quickly with notice of redundancy risk

House - what chance the Halifax or other index has had time to react, and even then it will only be an average

Pension - FTSE 100 was up 2% on the week

Cup - half empty full

[don4l]

Salamander1978 said:

whoami said:

What has changed?

Purchasing power is something I consider as important to my quality of life. I'm surprised you don't.

My job is less certain. My house is worth less. My pension has fallen in value. But it's fine becuase there is a link showing it's been worse....

Edited by Salamander1978 on Saturday 25th June 15:15

I went shopping this morning.

My purchasing power was exactly the same as last week. In fact, the Jersey Royals had dropped in price.

Isn't it time that Project Fear/Sneer came to an end. Lying doesn't work.

[alfie2244]

don4l said:

So, Schulz, Junker and Tusk... tell us why we should negotiate? You have until the 25th of June 2018 to come up with a good reason. From June 26th, 10% duty will be applied to all German cars.

Now, do me a favour and sod off. There is some footie on the telly.

[Robertj21a]

Salamander1978 said:

Purchasing power is something I consider as important to my quality of life. I'm surprised you don't.

My job is less certain. My house is worth less. My pension has fallen in value. But it's fine becuase there is a link showing it's been worse....

Edited by Salamander1978 on Saturday 25th June 15:15

Blimey, that's quick, the vote was only announced yesterday. I suppose you don't think that various issues might stabilise once all the panic-mongers calm down a bit ?

[Robertj21a]

don4l said:

You stand ready????

Do sod off... tossers!

You have a £65Bn trade surplus with us. Wake up and smell the coffee. We will let you know if, and when we want to "negotiate".

Initially, I was not very happy with Cameron's resignation. I was looking forward to seeing the removal vans next Tuesday.

However, I now hope that he does stay in office until October.

While Cameron is still in office, they have no one to negotiate with. Each day that passes will give them an opportunity to consider the effects of losing a huge contributor. Each day that passes raises the possibility that another country will grant its people the right to express their opinion. Each day that passes gives Volkswagen, Mercedes and BMW another chance to explain to Merkel that she must negotiate a trade deal with the UK.

The fear is palpable, and still they act like they are in charge. What a bunch of utterly clueless gobstes.

The Volkswagen share price fell 5.5% yesterday.

BMW fell 7.5% and is at the same price as 5 years ago.

Daimler (Mercedes) fell 8%.

The French (CAC) stock market fell 8%.

The IBEX (Spain) fell 12%.

The FTSE dropped 3%... to the same level that it was a week ago.


So, Schulz, Junker and Tusk... tell us why we should negotiate? You have until the 25th of June 2018 to come up with a good reason. From June 26th, 10% duty will be applied to all German cars.

Now, do me a favour and sod off. There is some footie on the telly.

It's 2 years from the date of the Section 50 - so more like October 2018.

[anonymous-user]

There are over 100,000 Lobbyists in Brussels, they will be working their arses off trying to get the elites to not do something stupid. Good luck to them. http://lobbyfacts.eu/reports/staff-by-category

[turbobloke]

FTSE 100 was up 2% on the week according to the DT.

[don4l]

Mr_B said:

I don't want to see him gloat, but suspect he will, but more interested in what reaction he gets inside the chamber. I hope his 'told you so' message is of the correct tone about the EU just wishing to ignore what the public of each EU member country thinks, because the EU only seems to worry that as long as it has the majority parties of each country on-board and not objecting, that's job done.

I am sooo looking forward to seeing that on YouTube. I hope that the camera stays focussed on Schulz's face while he explains our negotiation strategy.

Hannan might have a word to say as well. He will be much more conciliatory, but even more effective.

Are we obliged to give them 2 years notice? Or, is that the maximum?

[anonymous-user]

Salamander1978 said:

Purchasing power is something I consider as important to my quality of life. I'm surprised you don't.

My job is less certain. My house is worth less. My pension has fallen in value. But it's fine becuase there is a link showing it's been worse....

Edited by Salamander1978 on Saturday 25th June 15:15

This referendum was not about the now, it was about the next 50 years.

I am no financial genius, which is why I made sure when I set my pensions up, I split the risk/investment between European and rest of the world funds. Had I set it up to be just an EU based fund, I'd have been fooked either way this vote went.

[alfie2244]

don4l said:

I am sooo looking forward to seeing that on YouTube. I hope that the camera stays focussed on Schulz's face while he explains our negotiation strategy.

Hannan might have a word to say as well. He will be much more conciliatory, but even more effective.

Are we obliged to give them 2 years notice? Or, is that the maximum?

Maximum once Art50 notice served I believe.