The 'No to the EU' campaign Vol 2
Discussion
don4l said:
For who, then?
Really, nobody thought that the NHS was going to get £350m a week. That is just plain silly.
I do sometimes wonder why you write such nonsense. You must think that we are all as thick as two short planks.
Then again, the remain side tried to tell us that there would be cuts in the NHS if we left. By the end of the campaign you were reduced to claiming that we wouldn't bve spending an extra £350m a week. Have you any idea how utterly pathetic that looks?
You told us that 3.3m people would lose their jobs if we Brexited. Than turned out to be balderdash.
You told us that Britain could have no global influence outside the EU. More Nonsense. We will, as you well know, retake our seat on the WTO and keep our seat on the Security Council.
You told us that the EU had kept the peace in Europe, whereas, as we saw in the former Yugoslavia, it was NATO that kept the peace. The useless EU did nothing at all.
You weren't happy telling all those lies. You then had to heap insults on us. We were told that we were uneducated, lower class, pale and old. Zod, you seemed especially happy to peddle that nonsense. Shame on you.
When a lunatic murdered an MP, you tried to suggest that his hatred had been stoked by the Leave campaign. This really shocked me. Just how low is it possible to go?
Do you apologise for all the lies, insults and smears?
No. You just carry on as if you hadn't been beaten.
As you can probably guess, I'm a bit fed up of all the lies.
I'm fed up with the insults.
If you must carry on with the lies and insults, which I know you must, could I at least ask that we don't get any more sneering?
TIA.
So when will you be apologising for all of the insults that you threw around at anyone who wanted to remain?Really, nobody thought that the NHS was going to get £350m a week. That is just plain silly.
I do sometimes wonder why you write such nonsense. You must think that we are all as thick as two short planks.
Then again, the remain side tried to tell us that there would be cuts in the NHS if we left. By the end of the campaign you were reduced to claiming that we wouldn't bve spending an extra £350m a week. Have you any idea how utterly pathetic that looks?
You told us that 3.3m people would lose their jobs if we Brexited. Than turned out to be balderdash.
You told us that Britain could have no global influence outside the EU. More Nonsense. We will, as you well know, retake our seat on the WTO and keep our seat on the Security Council.
You told us that the EU had kept the peace in Europe, whereas, as we saw in the former Yugoslavia, it was NATO that kept the peace. The useless EU did nothing at all.
You weren't happy telling all those lies. You then had to heap insults on us. We were told that we were uneducated, lower class, pale and old. Zod, you seemed especially happy to peddle that nonsense. Shame on you.
When a lunatic murdered an MP, you tried to suggest that his hatred had been stoked by the Leave campaign. This really shocked me. Just how low is it possible to go?
Do you apologise for all the lies, insults and smears?
No. You just carry on as if you hadn't been beaten.
As you can probably guess, I'm a bit fed up of all the lies.
I'm fed up with the insults.
If you must carry on with the lies and insults, which I know you must, could I at least ask that we don't get any more sneering?
TIA.
markh1973 said:
don4l said:
For who, then?
Really, nobody thought that the NHS was going to get £350m a week. That is just plain silly.
I do sometimes wonder why you write such nonsense. You must think that we are all as thick as two short planks.
Then again, the remain side tried to tell us that there would be cuts in the NHS if we left. By the end of the campaign you were reduced to claiming that we wouldn't bve spending an extra £350m a week. Have you any idea how utterly pathetic that looks?
You told us that 3.3m people would lose their jobs if we Brexited. Than turned out to be balderdash.
You told us that Britain could have no global influence outside the EU. More Nonsense. We will, as you well know, retake our seat on the WTO and keep our seat on the Security Council.
You told us that the EU had kept the peace in Europe, whereas, as we saw in the former Yugoslavia, it was NATO that kept the peace. The useless EU did nothing at all.
You weren't happy telling all those lies. You then had to heap insults on us. We were told that we were uneducated, lower class, pale and old. Zod, you seemed especially happy to peddle that nonsense. Shame on you.
When a lunatic murdered an MP, you tried to suggest that his hatred had been stoked by the Leave campaign. This really shocked me. Just how low is it possible to go?
Do you apologise for all the lies, insults and smears?
No. You just carry on as if you hadn't been beaten.
As you can probably guess, I'm a bit fed up of all the lies.
I'm fed up with the insults.
If you must carry on with the lies and insults, which I know you must, could I at least ask that we don't get any more sneering?
TIA.
So when will you be apologising for all of the insults that you threw around at anyone who wanted to remain?Really, nobody thought that the NHS was going to get £350m a week. That is just plain silly.
I do sometimes wonder why you write such nonsense. You must think that we are all as thick as two short planks.
Then again, the remain side tried to tell us that there would be cuts in the NHS if we left. By the end of the campaign you were reduced to claiming that we wouldn't bve spending an extra £350m a week. Have you any idea how utterly pathetic that looks?
You told us that 3.3m people would lose their jobs if we Brexited. Than turned out to be balderdash.
You told us that Britain could have no global influence outside the EU. More Nonsense. We will, as you well know, retake our seat on the WTO and keep our seat on the Security Council.
You told us that the EU had kept the peace in Europe, whereas, as we saw in the former Yugoslavia, it was NATO that kept the peace. The useless EU did nothing at all.
You weren't happy telling all those lies. You then had to heap insults on us. We were told that we were uneducated, lower class, pale and old. Zod, you seemed especially happy to peddle that nonsense. Shame on you.
When a lunatic murdered an MP, you tried to suggest that his hatred had been stoked by the Leave campaign. This really shocked me. Just how low is it possible to go?
Do you apologise for all the lies, insults and smears?
No. You just carry on as if you hadn't been beaten.
As you can probably guess, I'm a bit fed up of all the lies.
I'm fed up with the insults.
If you must carry on with the lies and insults, which I know you must, could I at least ask that we don't get any more sneering?
TIA.
loafer123 said:
An interesting article in the Telegraph which argues how we are not as depdendent on the EU as they would like to think.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/06/28/now...
One quote you should focus on:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/06/28/now...
"The City faces a huge challenge in adjusting to Brexit. There is no point denying that a lot of mainstream corporate business will start to move to Frankfurt. "
Mrr T said:
loafer123 said:
An interesting article in the Telegraph which argues how we are not as depdendent on the EU as they would like to think.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/06/28/now...
One quote you should focus on:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/06/28/now...
"The City faces a huge challenge in adjusting to Brexit. There is no point denying that a lot of mainstream corporate business will start to move to Frankfurt. "
don4l said:
For who, then?
Really, nobody thought that the NHS was going to get £350m a week. That is just plain silly.
I know at least one person who voted leave due to that promise. If it is plain silly why did the leave campaign have a bloody great big poster printed up proclaiming it? Really, nobody thought that the NHS was going to get £350m a week. That is just plain silly.
Both the leave and remain campaign lied. But the leave campaign won so they need to be held to account for their lies. It would be the same for the remain campaign if they had won.
NRS said:
Mrr T said:
loafer123 said:
An interesting article in the Telegraph which argues how we are not as depdendent on the EU as they would like to think.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/06/28/now...
One quote you should focus on:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/06/28/now...
"The City faces a huge challenge in adjusting to Brexit. There is no point denying that a lot of mainstream corporate business will start to move to Frankfurt. "
markh1973 said:
don4l said:
For who, then?
Really, nobody thought that the NHS was going to get £350m a week. That is just plain silly.
I do sometimes wonder why you write such nonsense. You must think that we are all as thick as two short planks.
Then again, the remain side tried to tell us that there would be cuts in the NHS if we left. By the end of the campaign you were reduced to claiming that we wouldn't bve spending an extra £350m a week. Have you any idea how utterly pathetic that looks?
You told us that 3.3m people would lose their jobs if we Brexited. Than turned out to be balderdash.
You told us that Britain could have no global influence outside the EU. More Nonsense. We will, as you well know, retake our seat on the WTO and keep our seat on the Security Council.
You told us that the EU had kept the peace in Europe, whereas, as we saw in the former Yugoslavia, it was NATO that kept the peace. The useless EU did nothing at all.
You weren't happy telling all those lies. You then had to heap insults on us. We were told that we were uneducated, lower class, pale and old. Zod, you seemed especially happy to peddle that nonsense. Shame on you.
When a lunatic murdered an MP, you tried to suggest that his hatred had been stoked by the Leave campaign. This really shocked me. Just how low is it possible to go?
Do you apologise for all the lies, insults and smears?
No. You just carry on as if you hadn't been beaten.
As you can probably guess, I'm a bit fed up of all the lies.
I'm fed up with the insults.
If you must carry on with the lies and insults, which I know you must, could I at least ask that we don't get any more sneering?
TIA.
So when will you be apologising for all of the insults that you threw around at anyone who wanted to remain?Really, nobody thought that the NHS was going to get £350m a week. That is just plain silly.
I do sometimes wonder why you write such nonsense. You must think that we are all as thick as two short planks.
Then again, the remain side tried to tell us that there would be cuts in the NHS if we left. By the end of the campaign you were reduced to claiming that we wouldn't bve spending an extra £350m a week. Have you any idea how utterly pathetic that looks?
You told us that 3.3m people would lose their jobs if we Brexited. Than turned out to be balderdash.
You told us that Britain could have no global influence outside the EU. More Nonsense. We will, as you well know, retake our seat on the WTO and keep our seat on the Security Council.
You told us that the EU had kept the peace in Europe, whereas, as we saw in the former Yugoslavia, it was NATO that kept the peace. The useless EU did nothing at all.
You weren't happy telling all those lies. You then had to heap insults on us. We were told that we were uneducated, lower class, pale and old. Zod, you seemed especially happy to peddle that nonsense. Shame on you.
When a lunatic murdered an MP, you tried to suggest that his hatred had been stoked by the Leave campaign. This really shocked me. Just how low is it possible to go?
Do you apologise for all the lies, insults and smears?
No. You just carry on as if you hadn't been beaten.
As you can probably guess, I'm a bit fed up of all the lies.
I'm fed up with the insults.
If you must carry on with the lies and insults, which I know you must, could I at least ask that we don't get any more sneering?
TIA.
Simply asserting that I should apologise is rather silly if you cannot say what I should apologise for.
jonnyb said:
First, it's day 4 after the referendum. Who knows how meny jobs will be lost because of this. But jobs will be lost, and hardship caused.
And this is from someone who supports us joining the Euro!!Perhaps you want to take a closer look at the employment situation in large parts of Europe before making comments about the EU and jobs!!
Edited by sidicks on Tuesday 28th June 09:51
don4l said:
Zod said:
sidicks said:
Zod said:
don't agree. The majority of Leave voters (not all here, please note, before you get upset) voted for £350m per week for the NHS and restrictions on immigration, both of which have now been discounted by various Leave campaigners. For such voters, the niceties of being in or out of the EEA or EFTA or relying on WTO rules are not a concern.
Not trueReally, nobody thought that the NHS was going to get £350m a week. That is just plain silly.
I do sometimes wonder why you write such nonsense. You must think that we are all as thick as two short planks.
don4l said:
Then again, the remain side tried to tell us that there would be cuts in the NHS if we left. By the end of the campaign you were reduced to claiming that we wouldn't bve spending an extra £350m a week. Have you any idea how utterly pathetic that looks?
You told us that 3.3m people would lose their jobs if we Brexited. Than turned out to be balderdash.
You told us that Britain could have no global influence outside the EU. More Nonsense. We will, as you well know, retake our seat on the WTO and keep our seat on the Security Council.
You told us that the EU had kept the peace in Europe, whereas, as we saw in the former Yugoslavia, it was NATO that kept the peace. The useless EU did nothing at all.
You weren't happy telling all those lies. You then had to heap insults on us. We were told that we were uneducated, lower class, pale and old.
Find me a quote in which I said any of those things. I did not.You told us that 3.3m people would lose their jobs if we Brexited. Than turned out to be balderdash.
You told us that Britain could have no global influence outside the EU. More Nonsense. We will, as you well know, retake our seat on the WTO and keep our seat on the Security Council.
You told us that the EU had kept the peace in Europe, whereas, as we saw in the former Yugoslavia, it was NATO that kept the peace. The useless EU did nothing at all.
You weren't happy telling all those lies. You then had to heap insults on us. We were told that we were uneducated, lower class, pale and old.
don4l said:
Zod, you seemed especially happy to peddle that nonsense. Shame on you.
You are a liar. You are about the most unpleasant person left on your side of the argument here. I held out an olive branch to you on Friday that you ignored. don4l said:
When a lunatic murdered an MP, you tried to suggest that his hatred had been stoked by the Leave campaign. This really shocked me. Just how low is it possible to go?
Liar.don4l said:
Do you apologise for all the lies, insults and smears?
Apologise to a lying st like you? don4l said:
No. You just carry on as if you hadn't been beaten.
As you can probably guess, I'm a bit fed up of all the lies.
I'm fed up with the insults.
If you must carry on with the lies and insults, which I know you must, could I at least ask that we don't get any more sneering?
TIA.
Self-righteous indignation from a nasty, twisted old man. You stoop so low as to be beneath contempt.As you can probably guess, I'm a bit fed up of all the lies.
I'm fed up with the insults.
If you must carry on with the lies and insults, which I know you must, could I at least ask that we don't get any more sneering?
TIA.
edit: formatting
Edited by Zod on Tuesday 28th June 09:53
Puggit said:
el stovey said:
First European Parliament meeting since Brexit on now. Shultz speaking highly of Lord Hill, who just received a standing ovation.
Because he did a good job, or because he was a committed European?Zod said:
don4l said:
Zod said:
sidicks said:
Zod said:
don't agree. The majority of Leave voters (not all here, please note, before you get upset) voted for £350m per week for the NHS and restrictions on immigration, both of which have now been discounted by various Leave campaigners. For such voters, the niceties of being in or out of the EEA or EFTA or relying on WTO rules are not a concern.
Not trueReally, nobody thought that the NHS was going to get £350m a week. That is just plain silly.
I do sometimes wonder why you write such nonsense. You must think that we are all as thick as two short planks.
don4l said:
Then again, the remain side tried to tell us that there would be cuts in the NHS if we left. By the end of the campaign you were reduced to claiming that we wouldn't bve spending an extra £350m a week. Have you any idea how utterly pathetic that looks?
You told us that 3.3m people would lose their jobs if we Brexited. Than turned out to be balderdash.
You told us that Britain could have no global influence outside the EU. More Nonsense. We will, as you well know, retake our seat on the WTO and keep our seat on the Security Council.
You told us that the EU had kept the peace in Europe, whereas, as we saw in the former Yugoslavia, it was NATO that kept the peace. The useless EU did nothing at all.
You weren't happy telling all those lies. You then had to heap insults on us. We were told that we were uneducated, lower class, pale and old.
Find me a quote in which I said any of those things. I did not.You told us that 3.3m people would lose their jobs if we Brexited. Than turned out to be balderdash.
You told us that Britain could have no global influence outside the EU. More Nonsense. We will, as you well know, retake our seat on the WTO and keep our seat on the Security Council.
You told us that the EU had kept the peace in Europe, whereas, as we saw in the former Yugoslavia, it was NATO that kept the peace. The useless EU did nothing at all.
You weren't happy telling all those lies. You then had to heap insults on us. We were told that we were uneducated, lower class, pale and old.
don4l said:
Zod, you seemed especially happy to peddle that nonsense. Shame on you.
You are a liar. You are about the most unpleasant person left on your side of the argument here. I held out an olive branch to you on Friday that you ignored. don4l said:
When a lunatic murdered an MP, you tried to suggest that his hatred had been stoked by the Leave campaign. This really shocked me. Just how low is it possible to go?
Liar.don4l said:
Do you apologise for all the lies, insults and smears?
Apologise to a lying st like you? don4l said:
No. You just carry on as if you hadn't been beaten.
As you can probably guess, I'm a bit fed up of all the lies.
I'm fed up with the insults.
If you must carry on with the lies and insults, which I know you must, could I at least ask that we don't get any more sneering?
TIA.
Self-righteous indignation from a nasty, twisted old man. You stoop so low as to be beneath contempt.As you can probably guess, I'm a bit fed up of all the lies.
I'm fed up with the insults.
If you must carry on with the lies and insults, which I know you must, could I at least ask that we don't get any more sneering?
TIA.
edit: formatting
Edited by Zod on Tuesday 28th June 09:53
Politicians bend polls and surveys to their own advantage for political gains, they ALL do it no matter which party.
Even ZOD could actually tell us Exactly how many people voted because of that poster, no one knows!
Mr_B said:
Lots of sour grapes.Jean-Claude Juncker couldn't help have a dig at farrage in his speech in the EU parliament today.
Understandable he wont like the situation at hand, but a cheap shot regardless.
Will be interesting to see if Farage takes the morale high ground later when he makes his speech.
Junkers comments cant help reinforce my opinion that even within the EU elite as you get nearer the top theirs even less willingness to even consider change.
Unfortunately for me the EU has a number of citizens willing to consider change even if they may not be the majority? but those representing them within the EU parliament appear to not be as willing.
If that attitude continues regardless of any EU constitutions restricting calls fro referendums etc, i cant see the likes of the passionate Italians etc not eventually saying enough is enough and creating enough public anarchy that their politicians have to act.
EU for me is more of a dead duck today than it was before the referendum simply based on the apparent unwillingness by the key figures to go beyond lip service and actually start the change for the better the EU desperately needs.
Understandable he wont like the situation at hand, but a cheap shot regardless.
Will be interesting to see if Farage takes the morale high ground later when he makes his speech.
Junkers comments cant help reinforce my opinion that even within the EU elite as you get nearer the top theirs even less willingness to even consider change.
Unfortunately for me the EU has a number of citizens willing to consider change even if they may not be the majority? but those representing them within the EU parliament appear to not be as willing.
If that attitude continues regardless of any EU constitutions restricting calls fro referendums etc, i cant see the likes of the passionate Italians etc not eventually saying enough is enough and creating enough public anarchy that their politicians have to act.
EU for me is more of a dead duck today than it was before the referendum simply based on the apparent unwillingness by the key figures to go beyond lip service and actually start the change for the better the EU desperately needs.
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