The 'No to the EU' campaign Vol 2
Discussion
lostkiwi said:
turbobloke said:
lostkiwi said:
trickywoo said:
Burwood said:
A simplistic argument but how is the EU going to plug 12B quid per annum not to mention lost trade if they thumb their nose at the UK?
They will likely collectively borrow more, which will make the economic situation, particularly in southern EU countries, much worse.ECB said:
In April 2016 the current account of the euro area recorded a surplus of €36.2 billion.
Source:https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pr/stats/bop/2016/html/bp160617.en.htmlhttp://www.tradingeconomics.com/euro-area/governme...
It must be like having a few quid on deposit alongside massive credit card blowout debt. They could always ask for a limit increase on the card as another option.
The UK is hardly debt-free (!) but we're on the receiving end this time, whatever the difference turns out to be.
From the same source as yours:
Balance of Trade (EU) - +27482 EUR Million
Balance of Trade (UK) - -3294 GBP Million
Given the EU figure will include the UK the EU figure is healthier than it looks. Also given the relative exchange rate differences the UK figure is worse than it looks.
Debt to GDP is broadly similar at 90% for the EU and 89% for the UK.
lostkiwi said:
turbobloke said:
lostkiwi said:
trickywoo said:
Burwood said:
A simplistic argument but how is the EU going to plug 12B quid per annum not to mention lost trade if they thumb their nose at the UK?
They will likely collectively borrow more, which will make the economic situation, particularly in southern EU countries, much worse.ECB said:
In April 2016 the current account of the euro area recorded a surplus of €36.2 billion.
Source:https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pr/stats/bop/2016/html/bp160617.en.htmlhttp://www.tradingeconomics.com/euro-area/governme...
It must be like having a few quid on deposit alongside massive credit card blowout debt. They could always ask for a limit increase on the card as another option.
The UK is hardly debt-free (!) but we're on the receiving end this time, whatever the difference turns out to be.
confused_buyer said:
I don't like Farage very much (not at all to be honest) but from a one man band he has changed the course of history. He has done that without being part of the UK party system or by any conventional means. In other words, not just the hard way, but the very, very hard way.
On that basis, just this once, I think it is fair to allow him his "moment".
He is a national socialist. He stirred up fear and hatred amongst socialist supporting voters to get to where he is.On that basis, just this once, I think it is fair to allow him his "moment".
The human race is really bad at learning lessons from the past.
Trabi601 said:
He is a national socialist. He stirred up fear and hatred amongst socialist supporting voters to get to where he is.
The human race is really bad at learning lessons from the past.
I can't quite work out what you are alluding to any chance that you could post that in plain English please?The human race is really bad at learning lessons from the past.
Trabi601 said:
He is a national socialist. He stirred up fear and hatred amongst socialist supporting voters to get to where he is.
The human race is really bad at learning lessons from the past.
An unpleasant insinuation, even by the standards of this campaign. The human race is really bad at learning lessons from the past.
Happily, your lot lost.
alfie2244 said:
Trabi601 said:
He is a national socialist. He stirred up fear and hatred amongst socialist supporting voters to get to where he is.
The human race is really bad at learning lessons from the past.
I can't quite work out what you are alluding to any chance that speaking in plain English?The human race is really bad at learning lessons from the past.
Trabi601 said:
confused_buyer said:
I don't like Farage very much (not at all to be honest) but from a one man band he has changed the course of history. He has done that without being part of the UK party system or by any conventional means. In other words, not just the hard way, but the very, very hard way.
On that basis, just this once, I think it is fair to allow him his "moment".
He is a national socialist. He stirred up fear and hatred amongst socialist supporting voters to get to where he is.On that basis, just this once, I think it is fair to allow him his "moment".
The human race is really bad at learning lessons from the past.
These days we say
Before we had emoticons, the reaction would be:-
BWAHAAA HAAAWAAAA
or perhaps PMSL
don4l said:
Trabi601 said:
confused_buyer said:
I don't like Farage very much (not at all to be honest) but from a one man band he has changed the course of history. He has done that without being part of the UK party system or by any conventional means. In other words, not just the hard way, but the very, very hard way.
On that basis, just this once, I think it is fair to allow him his "moment".
He is a national socialist. He stirred up fear and hatred amongst socialist supporting voters to get to where he is.On that basis, just this once, I think it is fair to allow him his "moment".
The human race is really bad at learning lessons from the past.
These days we say
Before we had emoticons, the reaction would be:-
BWAHAAA HAAAWAAAA
or perhaps PMSL
Now the reality is setting in, perhaps calmer heads are prevailing, indeed to restore some modicum of stability. I'm also hoping that US support for maintaining the integrity of UK might be assisted as it's oldest and staunchest ally isn't lost on them either.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-usa-tr...
Or maybe I'm clutching at straws.
Article says
"U.S. President Barack Obama may try to negotiate a bilateral trade deal with Britain and a multilateral trade pact with the European Union at the same time following the "Brexit" vote, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said on Tuesday.
"I think given what has happened, the president is going to try to do both at the same time. He knows how to multitask," Kerry said at a conference in Aspen, Colorado, when asked about Obama's April comment that the United States would focus on a wider trade deal with the EU and Britain would go to the "back of the queue" if it voted to leave the EU as it did on Thursday."
http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-usa-tr...
Or maybe I'm clutching at straws.
Article says
"U.S. President Barack Obama may try to negotiate a bilateral trade deal with Britain and a multilateral trade pact with the European Union at the same time following the "Brexit" vote, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said on Tuesday.
"I think given what has happened, the president is going to try to do both at the same time. He knows how to multitask," Kerry said at a conference in Aspen, Colorado, when asked about Obama's April comment that the United States would focus on a wider trade deal with the EU and Britain would go to the "back of the queue" if it voted to leave the EU as it did on Thursday."
Edited by Northern Munkee on Wednesday 29th June 00:48
danllama said:
LOL @ the 300 pages of arguing in the comments about the alleged promise of the £350m being spent on the NHS. 
alfie2244 said:
fatboy18 said:
t most certainly was a contburtating factor.
Apologies as I don't usually comment on spelling but this looks like a classic........ fat fingers? 
blast ...beaten to it hehehehe
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