The 'No to the EU' campaign Vol 2
Discussion
Tycho said:
Ste1987 said:
Something I've recently become concerned about: It seems no one in Parliament has a clue what to do next, wasn't a contingency plan ever drawn up in the event we ever did leave the EU?
Politicians were so sure that we would never vote to leave and were so ingrained in the EU that they never even bothered to think about the possibility of it happening so there is no plan. This is gross incompetence from all parties and at the very least I would have thought that the PM should have instructed the civil service to at least put something together.I commented at the time that this was absolutely f
king ridiculous and I struggled to believe it (thinking instead that they'd merely delay any FOIA request or exempt it under national security). Now it seems it was true. If so, Cameron should be strung up, hamstringing the very institution that has spent hundreds of years fulfilling that very purpose.
I am shocked and now understand why the younger people in our society are pissed off with old fogies like me voting Brexit and winning.
He is 1st yr A level Economics student....in brief homework given a couple of weeks ago but not yet done:
He has asked my views occasionally but I deliberately try not to influence him so don't go into detail, preferring that he forms his own decisions on the basis of readily available info and his teachers giving a balanced view on things EU.
How wrong could I have been?
The EU - context - Extract E - Would the EU be left out in the cold by saying goodbye to the EU? It then goes on to list numerous things considered positives but not a single negative i.e. 3.5M jobs created, EU labour movement benefit to UK business, attract large share of worldwide funds etc etc BUT not a single thing that could be considered negative.
Q 0:6 In recent years, growing disenchantment with the EU has led to calls for the UK to leave the organisation - Do you agree with the view that the UK economy would benefit if the UK left the EU? Justify your answer using the "data" and your economic knowledge.
I should add hie has mentioned his teacher telling his class (pre vote)anyone that votes OUT would be at the lower end of the intelligence scale.
Am I the only person shocked by this or do teachers only give one side of a story nowdays?
ps he now has my detailed answers to all his questions, has a far better balanced way of forming his OWN opinions, with a knowledge that questioning what people tell you is not a bad thing- even if it is me.
Gets his 1st car tomorrow (VW Polo), no prizes for guessing who's paying and who's opinion he sought when choosing...so he has joined PH but not posting in NPE for a while
Rant over sorry.
He is 1st yr A level Economics student....in brief homework given a couple of weeks ago but not yet done:
He has asked my views occasionally but I deliberately try not to influence him so don't go into detail, preferring that he forms his own decisions on the basis of readily available info and his teachers giving a balanced view on things EU.
How wrong could I have been?
The EU - context - Extract E - Would the EU be left out in the cold by saying goodbye to the EU? It then goes on to list numerous things considered positives but not a single negative i.e. 3.5M jobs created, EU labour movement benefit to UK business, attract large share of worldwide funds etc etc BUT not a single thing that could be considered negative.
Q 0:6 In recent years, growing disenchantment with the EU has led to calls for the UK to leave the organisation - Do you agree with the view that the UK economy would benefit if the UK left the EU? Justify your answer using the "data" and your economic knowledge.
I should add hie has mentioned his teacher telling his class (pre vote)anyone that votes OUT would be at the lower end of the intelligence scale.
Am I the only person shocked by this or do teachers only give one side of a story nowdays?
ps he now has my detailed answers to all his questions, has a far better balanced way of forming his OWN opinions, with a knowledge that questioning what people tell you is not a bad thing- even if it is me.
Gets his 1st car tomorrow (VW Polo), no prizes for guessing who's paying and who's opinion he sought when choosing...so he has joined PH but not posting in NPE for a while
Rant over sorry.
alfie2244 said:
do teachers only give one side of a story nowdays
Yes. The not so good ones with a political streak and almost all of those are left-leaning. There are more then enough of them. The good ones, of any political persuasion, understand that the idea is to present information impartially and help pupils to think for themselves and reach their own conclusions, with reasons.Look back to the general election where school teachers were banning UKIP votes in mock elections. Pupils could vote how they liked as long as it wasn't UKIP. There was also a school which called police because pupils visited the UKIP website to do some research.
Disgraceful but there we are, education = indoctrination far too often i.e. any of it at all anywhere at any time, and it's worse than that.
turbobloke said:
alfie2244 said:
do teachers only give one side of a story nowdays
Yes. The not so good ones with a political streak and almost all of those are left-leaning. There are more then enough of them. The good ones, of any political persuasion, understand that the idea is to present information impartially and help pupils to think for themselves and reach their own conclusions, with reasons.Look back to the general election where school teachers were banning UKIP votes in mock elections. Pupils could vote how they liked as long as it wasn't UKIP. There was also a school which called police because pupils visited the UKIP website to do some research.
Disgraceful but there we are, education = indoctrination far too often i.e. any of it at all anywhere at any time and it's worse than that.
alfie2244 said:
I am shocked and now understand why the younger people in our society are pissed off with old fogies like me voting Brexit and winning.
He is 1st yr A level Economics student....in brief homework given a couple of weeks ago but not yet done:
He has asked my views occasionally but I deliberately try not to influence him so don't go into detail, preferring that he forms his own decisions on the basis of readily available info and his teachers giving a balanced view on things EU.
How wrong could I have been?
The EU - context - Extract E - Would the EU be left out in the cold by saying goodbye to the EU? It then goes on to list numerous things considered positives but not a single negative i.e. 3.5M jobs created, EU labour movement benefit to UK business, attract large share of worldwide funds etc etc BUT not a single thing that could be considered negative.
Q 0:6 In recent years, growing disenchantment with the EU has led to calls for the UK to leave the organisation - Do you agree with the view that the UK economy would benefit if the UK left the EU? Justify your answer using the "data" and your economic knowledge.
I should add hie has mentioned his teacher telling his class (pre vote)anyone that votes OUT would be at the lower end of the intelligence scale.
Am I the only person shocked by this or do teachers only give one side of a story nowdays?
ps he now has my detailed answers to all his questions, has a far better balanced way of forming his OWN opinions, with a knowledge that questioning what people tell you is not a bad thing- even if it is me.
Gets his 1st car tomorrow (VW Polo), no prizes for guessing who's paying and who's opinion he sought when choosing...so he has joined PH but not posting in NPE for a while
Rant over sorry.
not surprised at all. see this with my youngest daughter as well. she was texting me from school on the day of the result with a load of nonsense from a couple of teachers. i tried answering and then told her to calm down and i would explain the situation when she came home.He is 1st yr A level Economics student....in brief homework given a couple of weeks ago but not yet done:
He has asked my views occasionally but I deliberately try not to influence him so don't go into detail, preferring that he forms his own decisions on the basis of readily available info and his teachers giving a balanced view on things EU.
How wrong could I have been?
The EU - context - Extract E - Would the EU be left out in the cold by saying goodbye to the EU? It then goes on to list numerous things considered positives but not a single negative i.e. 3.5M jobs created, EU labour movement benefit to UK business, attract large share of worldwide funds etc etc BUT not a single thing that could be considered negative.
Q 0:6 In recent years, growing disenchantment with the EU has led to calls for the UK to leave the organisation - Do you agree with the view that the UK economy would benefit if the UK left the EU? Justify your answer using the "data" and your economic knowledge.
I should add hie has mentioned his teacher telling his class (pre vote)anyone that votes OUT would be at the lower end of the intelligence scale.
Am I the only person shocked by this or do teachers only give one side of a story nowdays?
ps he now has my detailed answers to all his questions, has a far better balanced way of forming his OWN opinions, with a knowledge that questioning what people tell you is not a bad thing- even if it is me.
Gets his 1st car tomorrow (VW Polo), no prizes for guessing who's paying and who's opinion he sought when choosing...so he has joined PH but not posting in NPE for a while
Rant over sorry.
alfie2244 said:
I am shocked and now understand why the younger people in our society are pissed off with old fogies like me voting Brexit and winning.
He is 1st yr A level Economics student....in brief homework given a couple of weeks ago but not yet done:
He has asked my views occasionally but I deliberately try not to influence him so don't go into detail, preferring that he forms his own decisions on the basis of readily available info and his teachers giving a balanced view on things EU.
How wrong could I have been?
The EU - context - Extract E - Would the EU be left out in the cold by saying goodbye to the EU? It then goes on to list numerous things considered positives but not a single negative i.e. 3.5M jobs created, EU labour movement benefit to UK business, attract large share of worldwide funds etc etc BUT not a single thing that could be considered negative.
Q 0:6 In recent years, growing disenchantment with the EU has led to calls for the UK to leave the organisation - Do you agree with the view that the UK economy would benefit if the UK left the EU? Justify your answer using the "data" and your economic knowledge.
I should add hie has mentioned his teacher telling his class (pre vote)anyone that votes OUT would be at the lower end of the intelligence scale.
Am I the only person shocked by this or do teachers only give one side of a story nowdays?
ps he now has my detailed answers to all his questions, has a far better balanced way of forming his OWN opinions, with a knowledge that questioning what people tell you is not a bad thing- even if it is me.
Gets his 1st car tomorrow (VW Polo), no prizes for guessing who's paying and who's opinion he sought when choosing...so he has joined PH but not posting in NPE for a while
Rant over sorry.
Was this recently?He is 1st yr A level Economics student....in brief homework given a couple of weeks ago but not yet done:
He has asked my views occasionally but I deliberately try not to influence him so don't go into detail, preferring that he forms his own decisions on the basis of readily available info and his teachers giving a balanced view on things EU.
How wrong could I have been?
The EU - context - Extract E - Would the EU be left out in the cold by saying goodbye to the EU? It then goes on to list numerous things considered positives but not a single negative i.e. 3.5M jobs created, EU labour movement benefit to UK business, attract large share of worldwide funds etc etc BUT not a single thing that could be considered negative.
Q 0:6 In recent years, growing disenchantment with the EU has led to calls for the UK to leave the organisation - Do you agree with the view that the UK economy would benefit if the UK left the EU? Justify your answer using the "data" and your economic knowledge.
I should add hie has mentioned his teacher telling his class (pre vote)anyone that votes OUT would be at the lower end of the intelligence scale.
Am I the only person shocked by this or do teachers only give one side of a story nowdays?
ps he now has my detailed answers to all his questions, has a far better balanced way of forming his OWN opinions, with a knowledge that questioning what people tell you is not a bad thing- even if it is me.
Gets his 1st car tomorrow (VW Polo), no prizes for guessing who's paying and who's opinion he sought when choosing...so he has joined PH but not posting in NPE for a while
Rant over sorry.
jjlynn27 said:
alfie2244 said:
I am shocked and now understand why the younger people in our society are pissed off with old fogies like me voting Brexit and winning.
He is 1st yr A level Economics student....in brief homework given a couple of weeks ago but not yet done:
He has asked my views occasionally but I deliberately try not to influence him so don't go into detail, preferring that he forms his own decisions on the basis of readily available info and his teachers giving a balanced view on things EU.
How wrong could I have been?
The EU - context - Extract E - Would the EU be left out in the cold by saying goodbye to the EU? It then goes on to list numerous things considered positives but not a single negative i.e. 3.5M jobs created, EU labour movement benefit to UK business, attract large share of worldwide funds etc etc BUT not a single thing that could be considered negative.
eta small print = Source various 2012
Q 0:6 In recent years, growing disenchantment with the EU has led to calls for the UK to leave the organisation - Do you agree with the view that the UK economy would benefit if the UK left the EU? Justify your answer using the "data" and your economic knowledge.
I should add hie has mentioned his teacher telling his class (pre vote)anyone that votes OUT would be at the lower end of the intelligence scale.
Am I the only person shocked by this or do teachers only give one side of a story nowdays?
ps he now has my detailed answers to all his questions, has a far better balanced way of forming his OWN opinions, with a knowledge that questioning what people tell you is not a bad thing- even if it is me.
Gets his 1st car tomorrow (VW Polo), no prizes for guessing who's paying and who's opinion he sought when choosing...so he has joined PH but not posting in NPE for a while
Rant over sorry.
Was this recently?He is 1st yr A level Economics student....in brief homework given a couple of weeks ago but not yet done:
He has asked my views occasionally but I deliberately try not to influence him so don't go into detail, preferring that he forms his own decisions on the basis of readily available info and his teachers giving a balanced view on things EU.
How wrong could I have been?
The EU - context - Extract E - Would the EU be left out in the cold by saying goodbye to the EU? It then goes on to list numerous things considered positives but not a single negative i.e. 3.5M jobs created, EU labour movement benefit to UK business, attract large share of worldwide funds etc etc BUT not a single thing that could be considered negative.
eta small print = Source various 2012
Q 0:6 In recent years, growing disenchantment with the EU has led to calls for the UK to leave the organisation - Do you agree with the view that the UK economy would benefit if the UK left the EU? Justify your answer using the "data" and your economic knowledge.
I should add hie has mentioned his teacher telling his class (pre vote)anyone that votes OUT would be at the lower end of the intelligence scale.
Am I the only person shocked by this or do teachers only give one side of a story nowdays?
ps he now has my detailed answers to all his questions, has a far better balanced way of forming his OWN opinions, with a knowledge that questioning what people tell you is not a bad thing- even if it is me.
Gets his 1st car tomorrow (VW Polo), no prizes for guessing who's paying and who's opinion he sought when choosing...so he has joined PH but not posting in NPE for a while
Rant over sorry.
Edited by alfie2244 on Wednesday 29th June 18:53
alfie2244 said:
I am shocked and now understand why the younger people in our society are pissed off with old fogies like me voting Brexit and winning.
He is 1st yr A level Economics student....in brief homework given a couple of weeks ago but not yet done:
He has asked my views occasionally but I deliberately try not to influence him so don't go into detail, preferring that he forms his own decisions on the basis of readily available info and his teachers giving a balanced view on things EU.
How wrong could I have been?
The EU - context - Extract E - Would the EU be left out in the cold by saying goodbye to the EU? It then goes on to list numerous things considered positives but not a single negative i.e. 3.5M jobs created, EU labour movement benefit to UK business, attract large share of worldwide funds etc etc BUT not a single thing that could be considered negative.
Q 0:6 In recent years, growing disenchantment with the EU has led to calls for the UK to leave the organisation - Do you agree with the view that the UK economy would benefit if the UK left the EU? Justify your answer using the "data" and your economic knowledge.
I should add hie has mentioned his teacher telling his class (pre vote)anyone that votes OUT would be at the lower end of the intelligence scale.
Am I the only person shocked by this or do teachers only give one side of a story nowdays?
ps he now has my detailed answers to all his questions, has a far better balanced way of forming his OWN opinions, with a knowledge that questioning what people tell you is not a bad thing- even if it is me.
Gets his 1st car tomorrow (VW Polo), no prizes for guessing who's paying and who's opinion he sought when choosing...so he has joined PH but not posting in NPE for a while
Rant over sorry.
Socialist teacher in biased teaching shocker.He is 1st yr A level Economics student....in brief homework given a couple of weeks ago but not yet done:
He has asked my views occasionally but I deliberately try not to influence him so don't go into detail, preferring that he forms his own decisions on the basis of readily available info and his teachers giving a balanced view on things EU.
How wrong could I have been?
The EU - context - Extract E - Would the EU be left out in the cold by saying goodbye to the EU? It then goes on to list numerous things considered positives but not a single negative i.e. 3.5M jobs created, EU labour movement benefit to UK business, attract large share of worldwide funds etc etc BUT not a single thing that could be considered negative.
Q 0:6 In recent years, growing disenchantment with the EU has led to calls for the UK to leave the organisation - Do you agree with the view that the UK economy would benefit if the UK left the EU? Justify your answer using the "data" and your economic knowledge.
I should add hie has mentioned his teacher telling his class (pre vote)anyone that votes OUT would be at the lower end of the intelligence scale.
Am I the only person shocked by this or do teachers only give one side of a story nowdays?
ps he now has my detailed answers to all his questions, has a far better balanced way of forming his OWN opinions, with a knowledge that questioning what people tell you is not a bad thing- even if it is me.
Gets his 1st car tomorrow (VW Polo), no prizes for guessing who's paying and who's opinion he sought when choosing...so he has joined PH but not posting in NPE for a while
Rant over sorry.
Been happening since the dawn of time!
Why do you think young educated people typically start their adult lives as left leaning and then life experience gives them a different perspective.
garyhun said:
Socialist teacher in biased teaching shocker.
Been happening since the dawn of time!
Why do you think young educated people typically start their adult lives as left leaning and then life experience gives them a different perspective.
While I was typing there was a piece on the local news about under age kids protesting in Bristol cozBeen happening since the dawn of time!
Why do you think young educated people typically start their adult lives as left leaning and then life experience gives them a different perspective.
"we stole their futures" ....I don't want thanks but I spent years running several youth football teams, physically and financial and my kids didn't even play for them.last thing I was expecting was to be accused of ruining their futures because of some biased teachers.definately rant over this time or I will have to up my medication.
alfie2244 said:
Set 2 weeks ago so pre vote....only just doing it .......seems to be extract from old exam paper.
Was asking as someone sent me email with the exact same thing but with pdf of the whole file with that same question. They misstyped the domain name of the email so it was meant for someone else. Thanks, regardless.Edited by alfie2244 on Wednesday 29th June 18:53
jjlynn27 said:
alfie2244 said:
Set 2 weeks ago so pre vote....only just doing it .......seems to be extract from old exam paper.
Was asking as someone sent me email with the exact same thing but with pdf of the whole file with that same question. They misstyped the domain name of the email so it was meant for someone else. Thanks, regardless.Edited by alfie2244 on Wednesday 29th June 18:53
If it helps it's spread over Pages 4 & 5. Extract F: Should the UK envy Norway? - news reports 2012
there is some very small print on the bottom but to small for me to read properly but maybe Jun14........definitely looks like a couple of pages from an old exam paper.
it appears there is legislation regarding bias displayed by "teachers"
Section 407 of the Education Act 1996 requires school governing bodies, head teachers and local education authorities to take all reasonably practical steps to ensure that, where political or controversial issues (such as UK military interventions) are brought to pupils' attention, they 'are offered a balanced presentation of opposing views'.
In practice, this means:
giving equal importance to conflicting views and opinions;
presenting all information and opinion as open to interpretation, qualification and contradiction;
establishing a classroom climate in which all pupils are free to express sincerely held views without fear.
It also means teachers seeking to avoid unintentional bias by:
not presenting opinions as if they are facts;
not setting themselves up as the sole authority on a subject;
as far as possible, not giving their own accounts of the views of others, but, rather, letting the actual claims and assertions of protagonists speak for themselves;
not revealing their own preferences in unconscious ways, e.g., facial expressions, gestures or tone of voice;
not implying a correct opinion through their choice of respondents in a discussion;
not failing to challenge a one-sided consensus that emerges too quickly in the classroom.
Section 407 of the Education Act 1996 requires school governing bodies, head teachers and local education authorities to take all reasonably practical steps to ensure that, where political or controversial issues (such as UK military interventions) are brought to pupils' attention, they 'are offered a balanced presentation of opposing views'.
In practice, this means:
giving equal importance to conflicting views and opinions;
presenting all information and opinion as open to interpretation, qualification and contradiction;
establishing a classroom climate in which all pupils are free to express sincerely held views without fear.
It also means teachers seeking to avoid unintentional bias by:
not presenting opinions as if they are facts;
not setting themselves up as the sole authority on a subject;
as far as possible, not giving their own accounts of the views of others, but, rather, letting the actual claims and assertions of protagonists speak for themselves;
not revealing their own preferences in unconscious ways, e.g., facial expressions, gestures or tone of voice;
not implying a correct opinion through their choice of respondents in a discussion;
not failing to challenge a one-sided consensus that emerges too quickly in the classroom.
If only that took place on a widespread basis in reality.
As mentioned earlier:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/649934/Wildern-Sc...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sch...
As mentioned earlier:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/649934/Wildern-Sc...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sch...
Edited by turbobloke on Wednesday 29th June 20:31
I recall one of my best teachers at secondary school.
He was a media teacher and a blatant leftie (duh) and as he had such a great rapport with the students they were all begging to know who he voted for, he never told anyone and always said hes not going to abuse his position of power and we should look up the facts and make our own decision.
The dance teacher (yes, dance was part of the curriculum, and drama! But they couldn't afford teaching materials for maths, go figure) told us she was voting labour (without anyone asking) as its what "anyone with morals would do" Other teachers did similar things, it was a very "progressive" school...
its funny, I'm friends with alot of my classmates from that school on facebook and nearly all of them were moaning about how disappointed they were and how their future is ruined, wonder where the seeds for their political ideology was sown.....
He was a media teacher and a blatant leftie (duh) and as he had such a great rapport with the students they were all begging to know who he voted for, he never told anyone and always said hes not going to abuse his position of power and we should look up the facts and make our own decision.
The dance teacher (yes, dance was part of the curriculum, and drama! But they couldn't afford teaching materials for maths, go figure) told us she was voting labour (without anyone asking) as its what "anyone with morals would do" Other teachers did similar things, it was a very "progressive" school...
its funny, I'm friends with alot of my classmates from that school on facebook and nearly all of them were moaning about how disappointed they were and how their future is ruined, wonder where the seeds for their political ideology was sown.....
garyhun said:
alfie2244 said:
I am shocked and now understand why the younger people in our society are pissed off with old fogies like me voting Brexit and winning.
He is 1st yr A level Economics student....in brief homework given a couple of weeks ago but not yet done:
He has asked my views occasionally but I deliberately try not to influence him so don't go into detail, preferring that he forms his own decisions on the basis of readily available info and his teachers giving a balanced view on things EU.
How wrong could I have been?
The EU - context - Extract E - Would the EU be left out in the cold by saying goodbye to the EU? It then goes on to list numerous things considered positives but not a single negative i.e. 3.5M jobs created, EU labour movement benefit to UK business, attract large share of worldwide funds etc etc BUT not a single thing that could be considered negative.
Q 0:6 In recent years, growing disenchantment with the EU has led to calls for the UK to leave the organisation - Do you agree with the view that the UK economy would benefit if the UK left the EU? Justify your answer using the "data" and your economic knowledge.
I should add hie has mentioned his teacher telling his class (pre vote)anyone that votes OUT would be at the lower end of the intelligence scale.
Am I the only person shocked by this or do teachers only give one side of a story nowdays?
ps he now has my detailed answers to all his questions, has a far better balanced way of forming his OWN opinions, with a knowledge that questioning what people tell you is not a bad thing- even if it is me.
Gets his 1st car tomorrow (VW Polo), no prizes for guessing who's paying and who's opinion he sought when choosing...so he has joined PH but not posting in NPE for a while
Rant over sorry.
Socialist teacher in biased teaching shocker.He is 1st yr A level Economics student....in brief homework given a couple of weeks ago but not yet done:
He has asked my views occasionally but I deliberately try not to influence him so don't go into detail, preferring that he forms his own decisions on the basis of readily available info and his teachers giving a balanced view on things EU.
How wrong could I have been?
The EU - context - Extract E - Would the EU be left out in the cold by saying goodbye to the EU? It then goes on to list numerous things considered positives but not a single negative i.e. 3.5M jobs created, EU labour movement benefit to UK business, attract large share of worldwide funds etc etc BUT not a single thing that could be considered negative.
Q 0:6 In recent years, growing disenchantment with the EU has led to calls for the UK to leave the organisation - Do you agree with the view that the UK economy would benefit if the UK left the EU? Justify your answer using the "data" and your economic knowledge.
I should add hie has mentioned his teacher telling his class (pre vote)anyone that votes OUT would be at the lower end of the intelligence scale.
Am I the only person shocked by this or do teachers only give one side of a story nowdays?
ps he now has my detailed answers to all his questions, has a far better balanced way of forming his OWN opinions, with a knowledge that questioning what people tell you is not a bad thing- even if it is me.
Gets his 1st car tomorrow (VW Polo), no prizes for guessing who's paying and who's opinion he sought when choosing...so he has joined PH but not posting in NPE for a while
Rant over sorry.
Been happening since the dawn of time!
Why do you think young educated people typically start their adult lives as left leaning and then life experience gives them a different perspective.
Burwood said:
garyhun said:
alfie2244 said:
I am shocked and now understand why the younger people in our society are pissed off with old fogies like me voting Brexit and winning.
He is 1st yr A level Economics student....in brief homework given a couple of weeks ago but not yet done:
He has asked my views occasionally but I deliberately try not to influence him so don't go into detail, preferring that he forms his own decisions on the basis of readily available info and his teachers giving a balanced view on things EU.
How wrong could I have been?
The EU - context - Extract E - Would the EU be left out in the cold by saying goodbye to the EU? It then goes on to list numerous things considered positives but not a single negative i.e. 3.5M jobs created, EU labour movement benefit to UK business, attract large share of worldwide funds etc etc BUT not a single thing that could be considered negative.
Q 0:6 In recent years, growing disenchantment with the EU has led to calls for the UK to leave the organisation - Do you agree with the view that the UK economy would benefit if the UK left the EU? Justify your answer using the "data" and your economic knowledge.
I should add hie has mentioned his teacher telling his class (pre vote)anyone that votes OUT would be at the lower end of the intelligence scale.
Am I the only person shocked by this or do teachers only give one side of a story nowdays?
ps he now has my detailed answers to all his questions, has a far better balanced way of forming his OWN opinions, with a knowledge that questioning what people tell you is not a bad thing- even if it is me.
Gets his 1st car tomorrow (VW Polo), no prizes for guessing who's paying and who's opinion he sought when choosing...so he has joined PH but not posting in NPE for a while
Rant over sorry.
Socialist teacher in biased teaching shocker.He is 1st yr A level Economics student....in brief homework given a couple of weeks ago but not yet done:
He has asked my views occasionally but I deliberately try not to influence him so don't go into detail, preferring that he forms his own decisions on the basis of readily available info and his teachers giving a balanced view on things EU.
How wrong could I have been?
The EU - context - Extract E - Would the EU be left out in the cold by saying goodbye to the EU? It then goes on to list numerous things considered positives but not a single negative i.e. 3.5M jobs created, EU labour movement benefit to UK business, attract large share of worldwide funds etc etc BUT not a single thing that could be considered negative.
Q 0:6 In recent years, growing disenchantment with the EU has led to calls for the UK to leave the organisation - Do you agree with the view that the UK economy would benefit if the UK left the EU? Justify your answer using the "data" and your economic knowledge.
I should add hie has mentioned his teacher telling his class (pre vote)anyone that votes OUT would be at the lower end of the intelligence scale.
Am I the only person shocked by this or do teachers only give one side of a story nowdays?
ps he now has my detailed answers to all his questions, has a far better balanced way of forming his OWN opinions, with a knowledge that questioning what people tell you is not a bad thing- even if it is me.
Gets his 1st car tomorrow (VW Polo), no prizes for guessing who's paying and who's opinion he sought when choosing...so he has joined PH but not posting in NPE for a while
Rant over sorry.
Been happening since the dawn of time!
Why do you think young educated people typically start their adult lives as left leaning and then life experience gives them a different perspective.
turbobloke said:
Burwood said:
garyhun said:
alfie2244 said:
I am shocked and now understand why the younger people in our society are pissed off with old fogies like me voting Brexit and winning.
He is 1st yr A level Economics student....in brief homework given a couple of weeks ago but not yet done:
He has asked my views occasionally but I deliberately try not to influence him so don't go into detail, preferring that he forms his own decisions on the basis of readily available info and his teachers giving a balanced view on things EU.
How wrong could I have been?
The EU - context - Extract E - Would the EU be left out in the cold by saying goodbye to the EU? It then goes on to list numerous things considered positives but not a single negative i.e. 3.5M jobs created, EU labour movement benefit to UK business, attract large share of worldwide funds etc etc BUT not a single thing that could be considered negative.
Q 0:6 In recent years, growing disenchantment with the EU has led to calls for the UK to leave the organisation - Do you agree with the view that the UK economy would benefit if the UK left the EU? Justify your answer using the "data" and your economic knowledge.
I should add hie has mentioned his teacher telling his class (pre vote)anyone that votes OUT would be at the lower end of the intelligence scale.
Am I the only person shocked by this or do teachers only give one side of a story nowdays?
ps he now has my detailed answers to all his questions, has a far better balanced way of forming his OWN opinions, with a knowledge that questioning what people tell you is not a bad thing- even if it is me.
Gets his 1st car tomorrow (VW Polo), no prizes for guessing who's paying and who's opinion he sought when choosing...so he has joined PH but not posting in NPE for a while
Rant over sorry.
Socialist teacher in biased teaching shocker.He is 1st yr A level Economics student....in brief homework given a couple of weeks ago but not yet done:
He has asked my views occasionally but I deliberately try not to influence him so don't go into detail, preferring that he forms his own decisions on the basis of readily available info and his teachers giving a balanced view on things EU.
How wrong could I have been?
The EU - context - Extract E - Would the EU be left out in the cold by saying goodbye to the EU? It then goes on to list numerous things considered positives but not a single negative i.e. 3.5M jobs created, EU labour movement benefit to UK business, attract large share of worldwide funds etc etc BUT not a single thing that could be considered negative.
Q 0:6 In recent years, growing disenchantment with the EU has led to calls for the UK to leave the organisation - Do you agree with the view that the UK economy would benefit if the UK left the EU? Justify your answer using the "data" and your economic knowledge.
I should add hie has mentioned his teacher telling his class (pre vote)anyone that votes OUT would be at the lower end of the intelligence scale.
Am I the only person shocked by this or do teachers only give one side of a story nowdays?
ps he now has my detailed answers to all his questions, has a far better balanced way of forming his OWN opinions, with a knowledge that questioning what people tell you is not a bad thing- even if it is me.
Gets his 1st car tomorrow (VW Polo), no prizes for guessing who's paying and who's opinion he sought when choosing...so he has joined PH but not posting in NPE for a while
Rant over sorry.
Been happening since the dawn of time!
Why do you think young educated people typically start their adult lives as left leaning and then life experience gives them a different perspective.
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