The 'No to the EU' campaign Vol 2

The 'No to the EU' campaign Vol 2

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Sam All

3,101 posts

101 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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European Union source says the EU has agreed to open a new negotiating chapter with Turkey on its bid for membership. Perfect timing, or not?

fido

16,796 posts

255 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Sam All said:
European Union source says the EU has agreed to open a new negotiating chapter with Turkey on its bid for membership. Perfect timing, or not?
Source?

Laurel Green

30,778 posts

232 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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don'tbesilly

13,932 posts

163 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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fido said:
Sam All said:
European Union source says the EU has agreed to open a new negotiating chapter with Turkey on its bid for membership. Perfect timing, or not?
Source?
It was in the FT last week, it was originally scheduled for the 24th June (unbelievably) or the 30th June (today).

British diplomats originally refused to take part, but caved in after a couple of hours of cuddling from the EU bureaucrats.
It is of no consequence to the UK now, we are out and on our bike thank f*ck for that!

I commented on it in this thread when it was first reported (with an extract from the FT)

mattmurdock

2,204 posts

233 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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don'tbesilly said:
fido said:
Sam All said:
European Union source says the EU has agreed to open a new negotiating chapter with Turkey on its bid for membership. Perfect timing, or not?
Source?
It was in the FT last week, it was originally scheduled for the 24th June (unbelievably) or the 30th June (today).

British diplomats originally refused to take part, but caved in after a couple of hours of cuddling from the EU bureaucrats.
It is of no consequence to the UK now, we are out and on our bike thank f*ck for that!

I commented on it in this thread when it was first reported (with an extract from the FT)
Woo, lets open another chapter of the 35 needed to be closed to get membership for Turkey.

So, we are now up to 16 chapters open out of the 35. But how many are closed you say? Why that would be 1. Since 2005. So only another 34 to go (of which they haven't even opened 19 of them).

At this rate, they will all be open by 2030, and they will all be closed by around the year 2400.

Still, glad we voted to avoid the influx of Turkish immigrants into the UK sometime in the next 380 years, that was a close call.

don'tbesilly

13,932 posts

163 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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mattmurdock said:
don'tbesilly said:
fido said:
Sam All said:
European Union source says the EU has agreed to open a new negotiating chapter with Turkey on its bid for membership. Perfect timing, or not?
Source?
It was in the FT last week, it was originally scheduled for the 24th June (unbelievably) or the 30th June (today).

British diplomats originally refused to take part, but caved in after a couple of hours of cuddling from the EU bureaucrats.
It is of no consequence to the UK now, we are out and on our bike thank f*ck for that!

I commented on it in this thread when it was first reported (with an extract from the FT)
Woo, lets open another chapter of the 35 needed to be closed to get membership for Turkey.

So, we are now up to 16 chapters open out of the 35. But how many are closed you say? Why that would be 1. Since 2005. So only another 34 to go (of which they haven't even opened 19 of them).

At this rate, they will all be open by 2030, and they will all be closed by around the year 2400.

Still, glad we voted to avoid the influx of Turkish immigrants into the UK sometime in the next 380 years, that was a close call.
Don't shoot the messenger!

If Albania or Macedonia can get a win from the EU, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that Turkey won't be far behind.

Cameron suggested Turkey would be lucky to make it before the year 3000, given his track record you can knock off a considerable number of decades, and the EU are not renowned for sticking to their own rules.

Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Albania and Macedonia are tiny and don't have the massive freedom of the press and human rights issues that Turkey has. Neither is in occupation of part of another EU Member State either.

mattmurdock

2,204 posts

233 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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don'tbesilly said:
Don't shoot the messenger!

If Albania or Macedonia can get a win from the EU, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that Turkey won't be far behind.

Cameron suggested Turkey would be lucky to make it before the year 3000, given his track record you can knock off a considerable number of decades, and the EU are not renowned for sticking to their own rules.
Surely if they really wanted to do that, it wouldn't have taken 10 years to close 1 of the 35 chapters and to open less than half of them?

If the EU is so keen on breaking their own rules, why haven't they just blocked Article 50 and told the UK we can't leave? Oh, is it because they have rules they won't break, and the only people who regularly break the rules are the member states themselves? A number of which never want to see Turkey part of the EU, and will veto that until the sun expands and destroys the earth.

The stuff people come up with astounds me.

don4l

10,058 posts

176 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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mattmurdock said:
Woo, lets open another chapter of the 35 needed to be closed to get membership for Turkey.

So, we are now up to 16 chapters open out of the 35. But how many are closed you say? Why that would be 1. Since 2005. So only another 34 to go (of which they haven't even opened 19 of them).

At this rate, they will all be open by 2030, and they will all be closed by around the year 2400.

Still, glad we voted to avoid the influx of Turkish immigrants into the UK sometime in the next 380 years, that was a close call.
It really doesn't matter any more.

Turkey won't gain admission in the next 2 years. After that, it won't be any of our business.



fido

16,796 posts

255 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Laurel Green said:
Nice. So we, or the EU, have spent billions helping Turkey get ready to join .. cold hard logic tells me this isn't something you would do for '380 years' time?

Sam All

3,101 posts

101 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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fido said:
Laurel Green said:
Nice. So we, or the EU, have spent billions helping Turkey get ready to join .. cold hard logic tells me this isn't something you would do for '380 years' time?
Waste and/or disingenuous. No wonder politicians are not trusted.

turbobloke

103,940 posts

260 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Sam All said:
fido said:
Laurel Green said:
Nice. So we, or the EU, have spent billions helping Turkey get ready to join .. cold hard logic tells me this isn't something you would do for '380 years' time?
Waste and/or disingenuous. No wonder politicians are not trusted.
yes

And look again at the timing of latest developments (or news of them).

don'tbesilly

13,932 posts

163 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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mattmurdock said:
don'tbesilly said:
Don't shoot the messenger!

If Albania or Macedonia can get a win from the EU, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that Turkey won't be far behind.

Cameron suggested Turkey would be lucky to make it before the year 3000, given his track record you can knock off a considerable number of decades, and the EU are not renowned for sticking to their own rules.
Surely if they really wanted to do that, it wouldn't have taken 10 years to close 1 of the 35 chapters and to open less than half of them?

If the EU is so keen on breaking their own rules, why haven't they just blocked Article 50 and told the UK we can't leave? Oh, is it because they have rules they won't break, and the only people who regularly break the rules are the member states themselves? A number of which never want to see Turkey part of the EU, and will veto that until the sun expands and destroys the earth.

The stuff people come up with astounds me.
The naivety of some leave me perplexed.

jonnyb

2,590 posts

252 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun...

It may even be illegal.

Here's the thing from my point of view, does the British Government have the right to remove my status as an EU citizen?

Hopefully they don't.

sidicks

25,218 posts

221 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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jonnyb said:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun...

It may even be illegal.

Here's the thing from my point of view, does the British Government have the right to remove my status as an EU citizen?

Hopefully they don't.
If it's so great, why don't you ps off to the EU and respect the democracy of this country?

After all, you want the UK to further integrate with the EU and join the Euro!

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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eharding

13,697 posts

284 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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garyhun said:
Is that Boris, pulling his hair out?

mattmurdock

2,204 posts

233 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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don'tbesilly said:
The naivety of some leave me perplexed.
Seriously? Because I have looked at the evidence so far, and extrapolated that into the future, that makes me naive?

Yet, when people propose complete pie in the sky un-evidenced nonsense, they are the rational ones?

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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boxxob said:
isn't this contradiction and attempt at 'legal' traps precisely why many voted leave?
I cannot imagine that the legal consequences of a Referendum had not been discussed and dealt with prior to the referendum and there was little discussion about this prior to the result funny that.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Now a call, led by Germany, for EU to create an EU army.

Where have I heard that before?