The 'No to the EU' campaign Vol 2

[anonymous-user]

zygalski said:

More telling than currency fluctuations will be to see where inflation, interest rates & unemployment stand in 2 years time in comparison to pre-vote levels.
I think most of you are missing the point tbh.

Quite right. All the wailing about the currency is rather ironic; it's arguably the best economic news at the moment!

On another note, just to throw a spanner in the works; Lichtenstein has single market access, financial services passporting and an immigration quota (if you care about immigration)

[jjlynn27]

fblm said:

zygalski said:

More telling than currency fluctuations will be to see where inflation, interest rates & unemployment stand in 2 years time in comparison to pre-vote levels.
I think most of you are missing the point tbh.

Quite right. All the wailing about the currency is rather ironic; it's arguably the best economic news at the moment!

On another note, just to throw a spanner in the works; Lichtenstein has single market access, financial services passporting and an immigration quota (if you care about immigration)

Already covered in one of the threads. Status granted based on population on 37000. Explicitly, in writing, because of it's size.

[anonymous-user]

jjlynn27 said:

Already covered in one of the threads. Status granted based on population on 37000. Explicitly, in writing, because of it's size.

Sorry missed it. The point is, contrary to all the noise, free movement is not written in stone. Anyway I don't care about immigration (being an immigrant) so meh, personally free movement would be right up there as one of my giveaways in the coming negotiations.

[Jockman]

fblm said:

...contrary to all the noise, free movement is not written in stone. Anyway I don't care about immigration (being an immigrant) so meh, personally free movement would be right up there as one of my giveaways in the coming negotiations.

Certainly something to be compromised on.

[hidetheelephants]

fblm said:

jjlynn27 said:

Already covered in one of the threads. Status granted based on population on 37000. Explicitly, in writing, because of it's size.

Sorry missed it. The point is, contrary to all the noise, free movement is not written in stone. Anyway I don't care about immigration (being an immigrant) so meh, personally free movement would be right up there as one of my giveaways in the coming negotiations.

The Norway deal allows *some* control of immigration; it's not absolute but it would be in parliament's control which is a lot better than having an open door, and crucially is enough of a fudge that with repatriation of ag and fish, abrogation of the sillier regulations etc will succeed in being hated by both leavers and remainers.

[don4l]

fblm said:

jjlynn27 said:

Already covered in one of the threads. Status granted based on population on 37000. Explicitly, in writing, because of it's size.

Sorry missed it. The point is, contrary to all the noise, free movement is not written in stone. Anyway I don't care about immigration (being an immigrant) so meh, personally free movement would be right up there as one of my giveaways in the coming negotiations.

We, more or less, had free movement before we joined the EEC. We didn't have a "right" to work in any EEC country, although, in practice, it was easy enough. I'm quite happy for things to return to the way they were.

I used to enjoy collecting stamps in my passport.

[mybrainhurts]

I'm curious.

That odious Clinton woman spoke her thoughts this morning about the massacre in Nice.

When she said "Events like this remind us how vital - vital - it is in every way not to abandon them...", was she alluding to her disapproval of us leaving the EU?

If so, using this to score a political point is shabby, disgraceful behaviour.

[grumbledoak]

mybrainhurts said:

If so, using this to score a political point is shabby, disgraceful behaviour.

She's a shabby, disgraceful woman. But I think she was referring to the US becoming more inward-looking under Trump, which she implies would happen and implies would be a bad thing.

[don4l]

grumbledoak said:

mybrainhurts said:

If so, using this to score a political point is shabby, disgraceful behaviour.

She's a shabby, disgraceful woman. But I think she was referring to the US becoming more inward-looking under Trump, which she implies would happen and implies would be a bad thing.

TBH, it would be better for the world at large if the USA did become more inward looking.

Just look at the fallout from the Iraq war.

[anonymous-user]

don4l said:

grumbledoak said:

mybrainhurts said:

If so, using this to score a political point is shabby, disgraceful behaviour.

She's a shabby, disgraceful woman. But I think she was referring to the US becoming more inward-looking under Trump, which she implies would happen and implies would be a bad thing.

TBH, it would be better for the world at large if the USA did become more inward looking.

Just look at the fallout from the Iraq war.

Jack Kennedy believed that too. Fortunately, others didn't.