Egypt Air flight MS804 missing!

Egypt Air flight MS804 missing!

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Original Poster:

3,681 posts

164 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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Flying from Paris to Cairo and now missing from radar. Hoping for the best and hoping it's not anything malicious!

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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'A clarification from Egyptair, which now says the plane “faded” from contact 10 miles (16km) inside Egyptian airspace:'

faded so not sudden.

s p a c e m a n

10,777 posts

148 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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No distress call, 10 miles into Egypt airspace, faded on radar.

Pennyroyal Tea

26,140 posts

214 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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So the usual smudged data coming out of Egypt rolleyes They don't do themselves any favours, do they?

http://www.ft.com/fastft/2016/05/19/egypt-air-flig...

Apart from which, Twitter? Really? Is that the most appropriate way to inform people that their friends and loved ones are presumably dead? Maybe I'm just getting old.

RIP to those on board.

Mansells Tash

5,713 posts

206 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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Interestingly though it was coming from a major international airport with proper safe guards. I think there is only one outcome here, the why is something that'll obviously be a while to establish.

worsy

5,804 posts

175 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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frown

Edited by worsy on Thursday 19th May 07:08

worsy

5,804 posts

175 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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Mansells Tash said:
Interestingly though it was coming from a major international airport with proper safe guards. I think there is only one outcome here, the why is something that'll obviously be a while to establish.
Assuming it flew out of Egypt, perhaps it (whatever that was) was stowed on the outbound flight. Assuming not a tragic accident.

Edit:

According to @flightradar24, A320 SU-GCC visited Tunis & Asmara in Eritrea on May 18 before flying the return from Paris to Cairo. #MS804


Edited by worsy on Thursday 19th May 07:08

essayer

9,064 posts

194 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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Did that disappear just at the start of descent?

worsy

5,804 posts

175 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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essayer said:
Did that disappear just at the start of descent?
Looking at the data it disappeared at 36975 feet(01:29am). Prior to that

01:28 36975ft
01:27 37000ft
01:25 36975ft

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ms804/#...

Still cruising.


essayer

9,064 posts

194 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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Looks like it disappeared approx 3h35 into the flight - looking at previous tracks for that flight, descent started after about the same time.. Some event triggered by reducing height perhaps, not many of those I can think of frown

tescorank

1,995 posts

231 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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from telegraph:

An official in Egyptair said Egyptian said that Military search and rescue operations have received an SOS message from the plane emergency devices at 4:26 am Cairo time (3.36am London time).

The statement said that the Egyptian military sent some planes and navy units to search for the plane, and that the Greece has sent some planes with coordination with Egypt.

A defence ministry source said authorities were also investigating an account from the captain of a merchant ship who reported a "flame in the sky" some 130 nautical miles south of the island of Karpathos.

From the Guardian

EgyptAir says that the plane’s emergency devices (possibly an emergency locator transmitter or beacon) sent a distress signal that was received at 4.26am, some two hours after the previously stated last radar contact.







Edited by tescorank on Thursday 19th May 07:36

cirian75

4,260 posts

233 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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crapsticks frown

Muncher

12,219 posts

249 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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I'd be looking pretty closely at the baggage handlers at CDG...

Derek Smith

45,654 posts

248 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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Muncher said:
I'd be looking pretty closely at the baggage handlers at CDG...
Reports are that 800 air sides passes were removed at CDG recently. 80!


worsy

5,804 posts

175 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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essayer said:
Looks like it disappeared approx 3h35 into the flight - looking at previous tracks for that flight, descent started after about the same time.. Some event triggered by reducing height perhaps, not many of those I can think of frown
Looking at the previous day, descent was approx 30 mins after passing the west coast of Cyprus. The flight today was late (r) and was only 15 mins past Cyprus.

00.48 @ Cyprus on the 18th
Descent @ 01:18

Today it went past Cyprus at 01:14 and lost contact @ 01:29

Day before matches that as well.

Looking at takeoff, today's flight was 25 mins later.


Edited by worsy on Thursday 19th May 20:00

Vaud

50,450 posts

155 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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Derek Smith said:
Muncher said:
I'd be looking pretty closely at the baggage handlers at CDG...
Reports are that 800 air sides passes were removed at CDG recently. 80!
Possible, but I did read that it wasn't it's first flight of the day, so not necessarily something from CDG?

s p a c e m a n

10,777 posts

148 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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Curious as to if it were something on board why would they wait until 3 hours into the flight?

Derek Smith

45,654 posts

248 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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s p a c e m a n said:
Curious as to if it were something on board why would they wait until 3 hours into the flight?
Over water? That was the intent of PanAm 103. The reason it crashed at Lockerbie was due to a delay on the tarmac. There would be limited chances of obtaining evidence.


JMGS4

8,739 posts

270 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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Muncher said:
I'd be looking pretty closely at the baggage handlers at CDG...
German radio now reporting that an egyptair tech put the bomb on the plane.....waiting for more details

CAPP0

19,581 posts

203 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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JMGS4 said:
Muncher said:
I'd be looking pretty closely at the baggage handlers at CDG...
German radio now reporting that an egyptair tech put the bomb on the plane.....waiting for more details
Where'd they get that from? Has someone held their hands up?